MLM Distributors asking for Credentials


Many distributors of an MLM will ask about my credentials. It sounds like a logical question on the face of it. However, upon further examination it really isn’t. I thought I’d break down a few of the reasons why so we can finally put this debate tactic out of commission. I ask you to read all the way through the end before commenting though (the “good stuff” is there).

What are the Credentials of the MLM inventors

I’ve looked at MonaVie and Protandim in detail. In the case of MonaVie, it was developed by Ralph Carson, who had and extremely questionable interview on CBS Radio. In it he violates the FTC guidelines when he talks about the “testimonials” of MonaVie.

Protandim’s inventor, Paul Myhill, shows no medical background at all in his Linked In profile.

Some People Ask Why they should Trust an Anonymous Person like Me

I would first like to address why I am anonymous. I have written more than 1200 posts about personal finance over at Lazy Man and Money for 4.5 years now. It is quite common (as you tell from this article) for personal finance bloggers to blog anonymously as they mention details about their income and net worth that they might not want to attach to their name. It doesn’t make sense for me to leave my name with much of my financial information present in that blog, so that someone could use the information to steal my identity.

When I started blogging, I wasn’t introduced to the evil that exists in these MLM scams. While I am happy with the number of people who thank me for helping them understand that MonaVie is a scam, when a MonaVie distributor like Glenn Siesser threatens to kill me and another monavie distributor tries to blackmail me, it’s clear that remaining anonymous is the best course of action. From the comments that you read on this site, and on my original MonaVie post it is quite clear that many of the distributors are not logical, sensible people looking to engage in a productive debate. I’m trying to help consumers and I ask for nothing in return. I’d rather do my job without having to deal with a mentally imbalanced person overreacting about 35 cents worth juice (in the case of MonaVie) or 12 cents of commonly found supplements (in the case of Protandim). These companies don’t need that kind of lawsuit on their hands either as it would easily bankrupt them (and yes we know that MonaVie would be held responsible for the actions of their distributors, just like Napster was).

Why Would You Want Credentials Anyway?

I don’t make any medical claims, not do I claim to have any medical training. I only show you what unbiased information from reputable third parties and point out logical inferences that require no more than your typical 5th grade education to understand

The Purpose of Asking for Credentials in a Debate is Logical Fallacy

Asking for credentials is a classic Appeal to Accomplishment logical fallacy. In case you are too busy to click that link here’s what Wikipedia says:

“Appeal to accomplishment is a genetic fallacy wherein Person A challenges a thesis put forward by Person B which criticizes Person C (or A) a due to the fact that Person B has not accomplished similar feats or accomplished as many feats as Person C or Person A.

Rebutting this appeal has been popularly called ‘Ebert’s Law’, referring to Roger Ebert’s ability to critique films irrespective of his accomplishments as a filmmaker.”

The person asking for credentials is simply trying to debunk what I’ve proven with a logical fallacy. Since the debater can find no logical fault with the arguments I’ve made, the debater resorts to fallacies. (For those who don’t know what “fallacy” means’s defines it as “a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.”)

Finally, while we are on the topic of fallacies about credentials, I should note Alexander Schauss and Appeals to Authority

Originally posted 2011-02-01 17:45:45. Republished by Blog Post Promoter

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4 Responses to “MLM Distributors asking for Credentials”
  1. Jeff Says:

    Ask Carrie Dickie (A Black Diamond in MonaVie) why she joined LifeVantage, and why MonaVie (yesterday’s opportunity) was good while it lasted, but why people are joining LifeVantage while its still new, and why Protandim is so superior, despite what you think you know about Paul Myhill or anything else.

  2. MonaVie Scam Says:

    I’ve seen the videos of Carrie Dickie. Sounds like she was offered a sweetheart deal to change teams.

    I’d welcome her input on the subject though. Perhaps you can give me an email address or she can Submit an article on the topic. Since you said we should ask her, I presume you are help get that done.

    As for the Protandim, we see what a scam that is.

  3. sivan Says:

    From Business Line

    Kochi, Aug. 6:

    The police on Friday carried out searches at nine Amway centres in three districts in Kerala as part of the ongoing drive against money chain activities and cheating through multi-level marketing campaigns.

    The team under Mr J. Jayanath, Superintendent of Police, Wayanad, searched the head office of the Amway at Kochi and also its office at Kottayam. The raids were also conducted in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollam, Thrissur, Kozhikode and Palakkad.

    The police said that cases had been registered against the company at Kannur, Wayanad, and Thrissur following complaints of cheating.

    Meanwhile, Amway in a statement said the police action has come as ‘rude shock’ and surprise. A fair investigation demands that the company be notified about the nature of complaint received for such a sweeping inquiry, it said.

    The multi-level marketing and direct selling company stated that it had been receiving complaints from distributors over the past one month that they were being called to police stations and being ‘harassed’ to give complaints against the company. This is another step in the direction of ‘high handedness’ of some police officials, the statement said.

  4. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Good find thought it doesn’t have much to do with MonaVie itself.

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