Dr. Lou Niles and His Sexual Crimes

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For some time now, we’ve known that Dr. Louis Niles has been illegally pitching MonaVie as a cancer treatment and we know that Dr. Louis Niles is not a medical doctor. However, those are just small to the latest information to come out on Dr. Louis Niles.

In 2008m Dr. Louis Niles was arrested for what appears to be 4 accounts of sexual misconduct including sexual battery and lewd and lascivious molestation.

About that molestation… The Nassau County Sheriff lists it as an two counts of statute 800.04(5)(B). According to Florida State Law, 800.04(5)(B) is “An offender 18 years of age or older who commits lewd or lascivious molestation against a victim less than 12 years of age commits a life felony, punishable as provided in s. 775.082(3)(a)4.” That speaks for itself and requires no further commentary.

While this may surprise you, perhaps it shouldn’t. After all according to this US Government Court Document:

“On February 16, 1992, appellant, a member of the California National Guard on active duty in Title 10 status, was tried by a general court-martial composed of officer members at Fort Clayton, Panama. He was convicted, contrary to his pleas, of making a false official statement; conduct unbecoming an officer (3 specifications); and indecent assault, in violation of Articles 107, 133, and 134, Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 USC §§ 907, 933, and 934, respectively. Two days before commencement of this trial, the Additional Charge and its specification alleging rape in May of 1987 at Fort Hamilton, New York, in violation of Article 120, UCMJ, 10 USC § 920, was referred to trial. Appellant waived the 5-day waiting period prescribed by Article 35, UCMJ, 10 USC § 835. He was also convicted of this offense, contrary to his pleas. He was sentenced to dismissal from the service, confinement for 6 years, and total forfeitures.”

I originally thought that it must be a different Lou Niles, but you can compare the picture on the Nassau County Sheriff website to his videos and see that it’s the same guy. Add that the history of being a repeat offender and just jaw-dropping information.

Dr. Louis Niles is the face of MonaVie. Even today distributors are still pushing his illegal medicinal claims. What an ugly situation MonaVie put themselves into by not getting a reputable doctor.

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83 Responses to “Dr. Lou Niles and His Sexual Crimes”
  1. CGC Says:

    It was a frame job by big pharma :)

    Cathy — any final comments in Lou’s defense?

  2. Michael Says:

    Clearly Vogel is a rebel without a clue. He has no idea why there was a plea. He has never seen the evidence. Finally he has no idea why this matter came about nor the status. In other words his ignorance is surpassed only by his exuberance in proving his stupidity.

    Now, let’s look at the claims by Quixtar against Niles and Monavie. The lawsuit was multiple-jurisdictional, in federal court, and involved hundreds of thousands of dollars and many attorneys. With all these resources (accompanied by the rankings of pinheads like Vogel) Quixtar ie Amway dismissed Niles. Let me say that again-dismissed him. Clearly Amway could not compete in the market place so they reverted to lawsuits.

    When Niles is exonerated will Vogel have the integrity to apologize for his ignorant defamation? Of course not. Cowards use the anonymity of the Internet then, when they are outed, climb back under the rock they originally emerged from under.

    If Vogel has any cajones, he will back off, shut up, and wait a few months until Niles is exonerated and released. Then he can debate Niles Mano y Mano. But we all know Vogel’s only strength is a big mouth that he uses behind the “green curtain” of the Internet. The other reason he skulks around the “shadows” of cyberspace is he is afraid of a defamation suit.

  3. Michael Says:

    Regarding the rape, yes he was convicted. I know I was there I also know the government hid the investigation report that exonerated him. He had to sit in a military prison for 2 1/2years awaiting the appeal. The appeal was heard by CAAF, the highest court in the military. Sitting by special assignment was Judge Sentelle from the District of Columbia District. It was proven the government hid the evidence AND that the Prosecutrix was a liar. The rape conviction was reversed. The case is readily available at 45 M.J. 455 (1996)

    Then one of the other Prosecutrix came forward, on her own, and admitted that the Prosecutor intimidated her into lying. I deposed her and video taped the statement under oath.

    When faced with the overwhelming evidence of prosecutorial misconduct, the government has no viable alternative but to give him a letter of reprimand, reinstate him, give him all his back pay, his rank, and let him retire with all his honors and benefits.

    Regarding claims that he did something against children, the prosecutor brought 8 charges but they were so obviously without any basis, the court would not even let the government put them on a charge sheet. Stated another way, the court said the government could not even show they had probable cause to make a claim. I made the motion to have the charges excised and the court agreed

    So you can believe the rantings of ignorant people who have no knowledge, facts, or evidence or you can read the case and listen to someone who was there.

    Finally, I am just reiterating the facts of the first case. I am not passing on the propriety of his Monavie film. However, the facts of the Monavie case was he was dismissed from the suit without any sanction whatsoever. If he was as heinous as some of you claim, how do you explain such a result?

  4. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Michael,

    I don’t think the evidence was made public. If that’s the case, you can’t fault people for not having access to the information. You don’t have access to it either unless you want to claim you are connected to the case rather than just an anonymous “Michael.” By the way, how is that “green curtain” of the Internet working for you?

    I didn’t know anything about Niles related to Amway/Quixtar. If there were claims made there, that’s a whole new article to explore. I wouldn’t say that Amway/Quixtar couldn’t compete with MonaVie in the market place, they don’t seem to sell similar products. To say such a thing indicates a large bias towards MonaVie and not an objective view. It seems more likely that they resorted to lawsuits, because they felt damaged by illegal activity.

    It is important to remember that Vogel has multiple infractions, some of them dating back decades. Vogel has nothing to fear of defamation, because the public documents support his claims. It would be like Bernie Madoff suing for defamation if I were to say he ran a pyramid scheme. When it is true and especially when it is publicly known to be true, there’s no fear of a defamation suit.

  5. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Michael,

    I could say my name was Bill and that I was there too. Why don’t you give us your name if you are claiming to be there? If you have this evidence, please create your own website (maybe something like “FreeLouNiles.com”) and put all the evidence, especially your recordings, there. It’s easy to claim that the guy was railroaded, but proving it is very different. Also, if he is innocent, he should have a defamation suit against the military and the State of Florida for a couple of millions in the works.

    One thing that we do know is that Lou Niles is on video illegally misrepresenting himself as an oncologist and MonaVie as helping with cancer. The evidence is all over YouTube. If he does get exonerated and released for any of the sexual crimes, the police should just toss him back him.

  6. Vogel Says:

    I’m guessing that anonymous Michael is Michael Rainey (or someone pretending to be him) who posted previously on this thread and was apparently Nile’s legal counsel in the military rape case.

    I find it interesting, or more accurately disgusting, that Michael is making such a big stink about undocumented minutiae from the old military rape case while glossing over the fact that Niles is now in prison for a different sexual offense involving a minor that he molested, and that he was sentenced to 8 years in prison for this felonious assault (not to mention that Niles also pretended to be a cancer specialist and defrauded the public by telling them that Monavie could cure cancer).

    What a dick! I suppose that if one is going to defend a POS, it helps to be cut from the same cloth.

  7. Michael Says:

    To MonaVieScam, my name is Michael Rainey. I have not reason to hide my identity. I was co counsel on the military case and took to CAAF twice. I was co counsel on the Florida case. I was involved in the investigation and am very familiar with the case, the facts, and the agendas.

    Regarding Vogel, first, who are you. What are your credentials to utter such inflammatory misstatements? Again, there he goes again, unable to articulate and reverting to innuendo, name calling. and disseminating false and/or inaccurate information. Before anyone gets to involved in his drama, consider this. The States Attorney brought four (4) charges. Why were three (3) of the charges dropped? Vogel, how about you providing a truthful response to that question. When you get done with that question, then ask yourself what evidence did the State’s Attorney have, that he swore under oath that he had, and yet he did not have. Again, Vogel, answer that question. I will give you a hint-no one at any level in the case found the evidence but you seemed to be a self proclaimed judge and jury so how about either enlightening us or keep your mouth closed.

    Regarding MonaVie, which this site seems to be addressing, you have never heard me excuse or comment on the propriety of his appearance on YouTube. You did he me say he was sued and the case was dismissed against him. Perhaps Vogel can give us the significance of that legal result.

    Perhaps you may ask why myself and others have stepped up to the plate on Niles behalf. That is an easy thing to answer. As a soldier and paramedic he has saved numerous lives. As a soldier and university professor he has influenced numerous young people. Finally, because of my closeness to the case, I have seen the evidence, done the investigations, and argued the motions before various courts. The things I stated in this email and the prior emails are empirical evidence, i.e. facts that can be corroborated by looking at the published cases or looking at the public records.

    Vogel, who appears to have some agenda, makes misstatements like “Niles is now in prison for a different sexual offense involving a minor that he molested, and that he was sentenced to 8 years in prison for this felonious assault” which is factually inaccurate.

    If you want to take Niles to task over how he conducted himself on YouTube, take your best shot. Regarding the other statements, get your facts down accurately or keep your mouth closed.

  8. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Michael, I don’t think Lou Niles was sued for the video that was circulating on YouTube.

    Maybe you are referring to some other lawsuit involving MonaVie and Amway. I don’t know much about that suit, but from the plaintiffs and defendants that law suit was between two businesses looking out for themselves and not the result of righting the damaged caused to consumers in committing fraud. I’m fine if MLMs want to bludgeon themselves in court. Maybe they’ll make you lots of money.

    However, when a person willfully scams others, offers no remorse, and continues to profit off of that scam, that person gets no breaks from me.

    Again, if you think the facts about the sexual crimes are off, create your own website and put up the evidence. This website showed the public documents. You can claim insider information, but you have to present it publicly or else it is irrelevant.

  9. Vogel Says:

    Michael said: “To MonaVieScam, my name is Michael Rainey. I have not reason to hide my identity. I was co counsel on the military case and took to CAAF twice. I was co counsel on the Florida case. I was involved in the investigation and am very familiar with the case, the facts, and the agendas.”

    In your most recent posts, you did in fact change your identity. You originally posted as “Michael Rainey” and then you changed your user name to just “Michael” and didn’t directly identify yourself as Niles’ attorney. There’s still no evidence that you are who you say you are and no reason for us to take you at you word; but regardless, if you are Niles’ attorney, it’s difficult to fathom why you would be here posting unpublished details and personal opinion about his case. That seems like it would be either a violation of client-attorney privilege, or that you are being paid to be an advocate on his behalf (neither of which bears well on my perception of your conduct this far; especially since you conduct yourself like an abrasive dick).

    Michael said: “Regarding Vogel, first, who are you.”

    You already answered your own question. I’m Vogel. What more do you need to know?

    Michael said: “What are your credentials to utter such inflammatory misstatements?”

    First, you’ve so far failed to identify which if any of my comments were misstatements. All along I’ve been posting facts that are in the public domain and I have in all cases identified the sources, so I stand by what I’ve written. Secondly, I don’t need to have any credentials whatsoever to post these facts that are in the public domain. Asking this stupid question is nothing more than a weak argument from authority (a logical fallacy). You on the other hand, have posted nothing but hearsay (and you’ve been quite a seething dick about it to boot).

    Michael said: “Again, there he goes again, unable to articulate and reverting to innuendo, name calling. and disseminating false and/or inaccurate information.”

    Again, you’ve failed to identify a single example of false and/or inaccurate information. I’ve posted facts; you’ve posted hearsay, personal opinion, and bilious BS.

    Michael said: “Before anyone gets to involved in his drama, consider this. The States Attorney brought four (4) charges. Why were three (3) of the charges dropped? Vogel, how about you providing a truthful response to that question.”

    How should I know? If you have a reasonable answer, why don’t you provide it? It’s easy to speculate why some charges may have been dropped, but it’s more important that he was ultimately convicted, sentenced to 8 years, and required to register as a SEXUAL PREDATOR for a felony against a minor.
    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=77492

    WTF more do I need to know about your Saint Lou? Some of the charges could have been dropped because Niles’ copped a plea, and the DA chose to go with an easy conviction on a lesser charge to get POS off the streets and to save the taxpayers some money. That’s usually why plea deals are made. You’re a lawyer, allegedly, so you should know that. I’m amazed that you could be so detached from reality as to ask this idiotic question.

    Michael said: “When you get done with that question, then ask yourself what evidence did the State’s Attorney have, that he swore under oath that he had, and yet he did not have. Again, Vogel, answer that question. I will give you a hint-no one at any level in the case found the evidence but you seemed to be a self proclaimed judge and jury so how about either enlightening us or keep your mouth closed.”

    Moron! He got convicted and sentenced to 8 years not by me but by a real judge and jury. Stop acting like Niles’ is a hero. He’s a POS convicted child molesting sexual predator. Obviously they had enough evidence to convict and sentence him, so stop acting so smug.

    Michael said: “Regarding MonaVie, which this site seems to be addressing, you have never heard me excuse or comment on the propriety of his appearance on YouTube. You did he me say he was sued and the case was dismissed against him. Perhaps Vogel can give us the significance of that legal result.”

    Who gives a flying F about your useless partisan scumbag opinion about Niles and Monavie. We’ve all seen the video evidence of what Niles’ did, so there’s no room for debate about it. It was illegal; it was shameful. He pretended to be a doctor and promoted snakeoil juice as a cancer cure. That combined with his predilection for preying on children rightfully gives me a very low opinion of your pal and financier “Dr. Lou”. As for the Amway case, that was civil litigation; not a criminal proceeding. It has nothing to do with the obvious illegality of Niles’ conduct in the Monavie video, nor his disgusting deviant sexual behavior. You should be embarrassed to make such a flimsy argument.

    Michael said: “Perhaps you may ask why myself and others have stepped up to the plate on Niles behalf.”

    Nope. Wouldn’t dream of asking that question (and not just because it grammatically tortured). But that won’t stop you from ramming your unsolicited pandering BS opinions down our throats.

    Michael said: “That is an easy thing to answer. As a soldier and paramedic he has saved numerous lives. As a soldier and university professor he has influenced numerous young people. Finally, because of my closeness to the case, I have seen the evidence, done the investigations, and argued the motions before various courts. The things I stated in this email and the prior emails are empirical evidence, i.e. facts that can be corroborated by looking at the published cases or looking at the public records.”

    You already had your chance to argue on Niles’ behalf in court (allegedly) and you failed epically – he was convicted as a sexual predator (on a child under the age of 12 mind you) and sentenced to 8 years. Maybe that was a win for the two of you; he probably deserved life, which he was eligible for on several of the charges. You can’t simply neutralize Niles’ criminal conduct by citing some BS about the lives he allegedly saved as a soldier (National Guard) and as a paramedic (a job which he was presumably paid to perform and was not simply doing out of the goodness of his heart) or influenced as a teacher (especially given that there’s no tangible evidence that he saved or positively impacted even one life). The only sympathy I have is for Niles’ victims, especially the child he molested. That impact is tangible and profound. The BS you’re alluding to is not.

    Michael said: “Vogel, who appears to have some agenda, makes misstatements like “Niles is now in prison for a different sexual offense involving a minor that he molested, and that he was sentenced to 8 years in prison for this felonious assault” which is factually inaccurate.”

    OMG, you’re going for the “Vogel has some kind of agenda” canard. Hypocrite! Laughable! Which part is factually inaccurate Mikey? He was sentenced to 8 years for sexual molestation; his victim was under the age of 12; he’s now a registered sexual predator; he’s currently serving his sentence in a penitentiary – it’s in the public record you fool.
    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=77492

    Michael said: “If you want to take Niles to task over how he conducted himself on YouTube, take your best shot. Regarding the other statements, get your facts down accurately or keep your mouth closed.”

    The shot has already been taken and it hit its target square in the forehead, but thanks for giving me the all-clear anyhow. You haven’t pointed out a single factual inaccuracy – not one – so I guess I won’t be keeping my mouth shut anytime soon. Useless clown!

  10. Michael Says:

    Hello MonaVie

    Thank you for your respectful response. Actually the film was the centerpiece of the claim against Niles. That’s why I mentioned it.

    it would be nice if I could report to you that Niles was a serious income generating individual associated with MonaVie. That’s not the case. Notwithstanding his “activity” with the association, I would venture a guess that in his 2 or 3 years of association I would be surprised if he made more than 2 or $3000. He’s not an ignorant person but is not a businessperson either. On the other hand I suspect that his talks and marketing made a lot of money for some people. However I can’t do more than speculate about that.

    Regarding the request for evidence, other than the Military Justice site that I previously gave you, I cannot comment on anything else at this time. The appeal is pending. Once it is resolved (and all who are involved and knowledgeable about the case think it is one of the strongest appeals they’ve seen) I’m sure Niles will be more than happy to explain the history and various agendas. Please accept fact that for reasons of attorney–client privilege and case strategy it would be inappropriate for me to say anything more specific about the case.

    As for setting up a website, I have no incentive to spend more than a minimal amount of time on this matter. My only reason for responding is that I find it reprehensible that individuals in our society find it appropriate to defame individuals by innuendo.

    I felt compelled to make sufficient comments to force the sleazy and cowardly out to the open. It appeared the mission is accomplished. As far as rehabilitating Niles reputation, that is his job. When his appeal is successful I am sure it will be more than happy to accommodate any questions.

  11. Vogel Says:

    Michael said: “Actually the film was the centerpiece of the claim against Niles. That’s why I mentioned it.”

    Notice how Mickey continues to focus solely only on the old multiparty civil case vs Amway while ignoring that Niles is now serving 8 years for molesting a child and is a registered sexual predator.

    Michael said: “it would be nice if I could report to you that Niles was a serious income generating individual associated with MonaVie.”

    Odd choice of words to say the least. Would it be “nice” to report that Niles made a million dollars, considering that he was pretending to be an MD and illegally selling Monavie as a cancer remedy (when he wasn’t molesting children that is)? WTF is so nice about that I wonder?

    Micahel said:”That’s not the case. Notwithstanding his “activity” with the association, I would venture a guess that in his 2 or 3 years of association I would be surprised if he made more than 2 or $3000.”

    Notice how Mickey starts off with the definitive declaration “that’s not the case”, then proceeds to hedge with weasel words like “I would venture” and “I would be surprised if”, indicating that he don’t really have a clue about how much money Niles made. And what kind of lawyer goes on critical forums like this discussing the personal finances of his clients. He’s starting to sound more full of $hit by the minute. And lastly, why would it matter if Niles only made a few thousand through Monavie? He’s still a con man, even if he’s not a very good one.

    Michael said: “Regarding the request for evidence, other than the Military Justice site that I previously gave you, I cannot comment on anything else at this time. The appeal is pending. Once it is resolved (and all who are involved and knowledgeable about the case think it is one of the strongest appeals they’ve seen) I’m sure Niles will be more than happy to explain the history and various agendas. Please accept fact that for reasons of attorney–client privilege and case strategy it would be inappropriate for me to say anything more specific about the case.”

    Ohhhh. So in other words: Mickey has no substantial evidence whatsoever to back up anything he’s said; he’s relied solely on anonymous hearsay and unsubstantiated accusations of defamation; however, although he knows all sorts of “important secret stuff”, he can’t tell us any of it – but if he could, boy oh boy would he show us up. Does that about sum it up numbnuts?

    Michael said: “As for setting up a website, I have no incentive to spend more than a minimal amount of time on this matter. My only reason for responding is that I find it reprehensible that individuals in our society find it appropriate to defame individuals by innuendo. I felt compelled to make sufficient comments to force the sleazy and cowardly out to the open. It appeared the mission is accomplished. As far as rehabilitating Niles reputation, that is his job. When his appeal is successful I am sure it will be more than happy to accommodate any questions.”

    Oh that’s my favorite — the old “I’m much too busy to spend time posting on this site” tuck-tail-and-run defense. People resort to that one when they’ve painted themselves into a corner and been made to look the fool. I wonder who it is that Mickey thinks he forced out into the open. All he’s done is embarrassed himself.

  12. humiliated Says:

    Michael, I would really appreciate you telling us what part of Vogel’s statement was inaccurate when he said “Niles is now in prison for a different sexual offense involving a minor that he molested, and that he was sentenced to 8 years in prison for this felonious assault” and YOU commented “which is factually inaccurate.” Please answer this question. Please.

    As Vogel said, you keep deflecting this issue and the fact that he has been deemed to be a sexual predator. I don’t give a flying f*ck if he wins his appeal regarding the military case, this recent case easily stands alone in determining that Niles is a disgusting human being who should never be allowed around children again.

    Also, we have already gone through this but paramedics, soldiers & professors are not put through some “saint hood” test. Being a soldier or paramedic does NOT preclude one from being a salivating pervert so please stop with the attempts at character rehabiliation. I have a question for you, if he was such a poor businessman, why didn’t he go back to one of his illustrious careers to make money? Why did he resort to pretending that he was an oncologist in order to scam people into buying the juice?? How can you say in one breath that he “saved lives” and “influenced young people” but ignore his borderline criminal behavior with Monavie?

    And, not for nothing, but I recall someone posting on here stating that their child had also had inappropriate advances made on them by Loser Niles but they didn’t report it. I looked through but couldn’t find the comment. Yes, it could have been a troll, or someone with a personal vendetta against Niles, but it certainly didn’t read like that from what I recall.

  13. michael_is_a_fraud Says:

    According to the real Michael Rainey, he is a mediation specialist and real estate lawyer teaching to Pepperdine University. In no records is he mentioned as counsel for Niles in Florida or that he is even licensed to practice in Florida. The last reference to the military case was in 2000.

    So for the poser, you should at least check the resume of the person you are trying to impersonate. By the way, the real Mr. Rainey was quite amused when I emailed him a copy and link to your proclamations. I doubt it’s worth his time, but I sincerely hope he pursues you. So which Monavie distributor are you?

  14. Michael Says:

    it is clear Vogel has illusions of adeqequacy. it is true the “record”available on the web shows Niles is convicted. no one has argued what the record shows now. Vogel, as is typical with many ignorant people, is willing to accept anything on the web at face value.

    I have suggested, and continue to this date, is to hold all judgments in abeyance until this drama reaches its climax. if Vogel was the investigator he holds himself out to be he would know for part of the time I was pro haec vice. I was his counsel from the evening he was detained in San Diego through today and will be at his appeal.

    When he is free and exonerated he will be able to tell his own story. Then , I suspect Vogel will be seen for the anonymous cyber bully he is.

  15. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Michael,

    I can tell that the person who posted that is not Vogel. It does look like the real Michael Rainey is teaching at Pepperdine University.

  16. Steve Says:

    I am the guy who prosecuted Niles in the Army. He was convicted of rape. He was also convicted of other crimes. What we did NOT proceed with were accusations he molested two Panamanian children. The mother did not wish to proceed. We could not force the situation. He was guilty. The trial was the stuff movies are made of. But he was guilty.

  17. Steve Says:

    And to correct Michael Rainey, the only charges not pursued were those where he fondled children. He had sexually assaulted or had inappropriate sexual contact with other women. It seemed accusations came across my desk daily. I assumed that since there were so many by this guy, there must be others. We looked and found the rape that was covered up by the military almost 5 years earlier. At trial, Rainey or his co-counsel someone how convinced a woman to lie on the stand. The deception was uncovered. I kicked Rainey’s ass in that trial and he still has not gotten over it.

  18. Steve Says:

    And Rainey lies to say anyone was intimidated into lying. If that were true, I would have been court martialed, which I wasn’t. No one intimidated anyone. The accusations were there. No investigation was covered up. In fact, THE DEFENSE talked to this investigator during the trial and decided not to call him as a witness. Rainey is as dishonest now as he was then. Niles was guilty. And now he is guilty again.

  19. Steve Says:

    Rainey has made some accusations against me that are simply not true. First, I never coerced anyone. Rainey paid for a witness to say that at trial and it backfired as she was easily discredited. The charges did not go forward because they were panamanian nationals…we had the evidence. Rainey is simply upset that I beat him. No evidence or witness was hidden. The investigator he mentions HE SPOKE TO DURING THE TRIAL and decided not to call him. Rainey and his TWO co-counsel were simply beaten. Niles was sentenced. And the Court did not overturn all the charges. Read the dissent. It is accurate. I hope this is allowed to stay as it is responding to accusations against me.

  20. Steve Says:

    Cathy, he was not totally exonerated. It was no railroad job. You are listening to his attorneys who were incredibly unethical and STILL lost the trial. Does Rainey ever WIN trials? His case was upheld and then overturned 2-1. It was on a weird technicality that would have made no difference at trial (as the dissenting judge stated). But I was there. I saw several of his victims, including children. He was guilty.

  21. Vogel Says:

    Steve, I appreciate you dropping by and sharing that. We have to consider it as hearsay at this point, albeit extremely believable hearsay for a chronic sex-offending POS like Niles.

    Michael said: “Vogel, as is typical with many ignorant people, is willing to accept anything on the web at face value.”

    Yes, how very ignorant of me to believe the official website of the Nassau County courthouse and prison records showing conclusively that Niles was just convicted for molesting a child and is now in prison and registered as a sexual predator.

    You’re a real piece of work Mickey. Where would we be without pieces of $hit like you championing the cause of child rapists? Go F yourself.

  22. Steve Says:

    What I have said is not hearsay as I was there and it is not an out-of-court statement. I am telling you what was said and done IN COURT. Rainey was a dishonest attorney and Niles is a sex monster.

  23. Michael Rainey Says:

    Here we go again. Vogel has illusions of adequacy and to punctuate his ignorance he reverts to school yard profanity.

    More sinister is Steve Sanderfers comments. He did, in fact, prosecute Niles. He brought 16 charges- eight involving children. He had exclusive control of the children, the parents, the alleged witnesses, and the investigation. In fact he, the investigator, and counselor were in the filmed statements of the three children. He completely orchestrated what should has been an independent, untainted statement. Even with all these advantages he got no evidence whatsoever. Those charges were not even allowed on the charge sheet. Why? Was there such a pervasive conspiracy that a Mother, Father, siblings, and all witnesses refused to testify against Niles or was it that Sanderfer tried to pull a fast one and he got caught.

    Regarding prosecutorix April, even after weeks of coaching by Sanderfer, she did not testify to the elements of the charge. Sanderfer had to recall her and after he coached her she “remembered” what happened.

    Talking about April, she was a piece of work. She testified the government gave her nothing for her testimony. After a FIOA request we found out Sandefer expunged 4 Article 15’s from her record at the conclusion of the court martial.

    Finally, there were some “he said-she said” charges by prosecutorix Shawnee. It was a believability contest sans evidence. Those were 3 of the five charges we lost. The rape was another but that charge was reversed for what was tantamount to prosecutorial misconduct.

    After Niles spent 2 1/2 years in jail he was released on parole. One day his parole officer called me and said Shawnee wanted to talk to Niles. One of the provisions of his parole was to not talk to any prosecutorix
    I had her call me. She said she found Jesus and felt guilty about how she testied. The following was her story that was put into a video taped sworn statement.

    1. Her husband at the time of the CM was also sleeping with April ( none on the defense team knew this). When she was testfing she was asked if she had an opinion as to the veracity of April. She hesitated in her response. We did not know the significance of that slip up but her husband did. He beat her up that night.

    2. She said ( and so testified under oath) that Sanderfer knew she had a terrible history of abuse from childhood and he played upon this. He told her that he did disputable things against children and he raped women. Then she said the “prosecutor Sandefer” told her what to say. Under oath and with the gull knowledge what she did was perjury, she recanted her testimony and stated what was said here.

    She said other things in her testimony which went to the lack of personal and professional ethics of Sanderfer. All of the things stated above-April’s record’s (including how she was kicked out of the Army) and Shawnee’s sworn statement (along with the video tape of which I still have both)- were before the court when Niles was resentenced. This is why he was reinstated to his former rank, given all his back pay, and allowed to retire from the Army.

    Now Steve, want to call my bluff? Do you want to see Shawnee’s statement all over the Internet showing the evidence of you unethical behavior? You know how to get in touch with me. You can back off the disparaging comments or I will let the world see what a scumbag you were?

  24. Vogel Says:

    Don’t attempt to retry the case for Niles here Mickey. Niles’s case has already been tried; thankfully he’s in prison now, where he belongs, and now he’s been declared a dangerous sexual offender and a molester of children. Like I said before, go F yourself — you have no business calling anyone else a scumbag, hypocrite.

  25. William Says:

    I spent 3 months in Nassau County, Florida jail (for felony bad checks/uttering) in the same dorm as Lou Niles (we all called him Dr. Lecter inside the jail). He wore a red jumpsuit in there, so when I saw the video of him in the red scrubs…

    Anyway, he’s a very engaging and knowledgeable person, face-to-face. Always traded out certain portions of his food tray for vegetables, specifically cabbage (claiming superfood properties), and I used to go to the law library with him to help out other people in the jail (such as one individual who was awaiting trial for kicking a nurse DURING a seizure…)…

    As people in jail awaiting trial go…Lou didn’t talk much about his charges, but the rumors went around. I didn’t realize that he was charged w/Sexual Battery victim under 12 until after I got out and was looking people up on Nassau County’s website.

    They came at him with possible life sentences, and it seems ended up letting him take only 8 years…3 of which he had already spent inside of Nassau County awaiting trial. It makes me wonder if the State Attorney’s Office screwed up somewhere along the way….and they apparently dropped the rape charges and let him plead to the “l/l molestation” charge, something else Florida doesn’t usually do. The case is now with the First District Court of Appeals.

    I can’t speak to anything regarding Monavie…never heard about it and Mr. Niles never mentioned it in jail. I know he proclaimed complete innocence, but so does everyone awaiting trial…he practices Buddhism as well, don’t know if anyone was aware of that.

    It blows my mind that I was sitting down having conversations with a pedophile though….disgusts me thoroughly.

  26. monavie seller ireland Says:

    i used niles video n ireland and my client has got an all clear from cancer a life saved thanks dr niles

  27. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Prove causation that watching a Niles video cures cancer. That’s quite a stretch.

  28. Vogel Says:

    Niles, as a result of his lengthy incarceration for child molestation, does not have access to the Internet so he won’t be able to get that nod of thanks from Ireland. Try sending a letter to the Florida State Penitentiary System and maybe not-a-doctor Lou will get a chance to read it in between the daily beatings he’s getting from his fellow inmates.

  29. Calif Daisy Says:

    I was at St John’s University when this unmentionable person was there. My father was the head of the Military Science Department (LN boss). He was at the military trial. There isn’t anyone on this earth that is more deserving of life in prison than LN. I have no evidence of anything. However, I was a 20 year old young woman living next door to him and I know how hard he tried to get me to come over to his house OFTEN! Luckily, my parents had a very healthy distrust of him and strongly suggested that i stay away. I was one of the lucky ones. Rot In Hell LN!

  30. Steve Says:

    It was at St. Johns, I believe, when he raped one of his students.

  31. Vogel Says:

    I don’t doubt it for minute Daisy. You have my condolences for even being that close to this disgusting remorseless predator. Rot in hell indeed.

  32. Martha Krankus Says:

    He is real. He married a young Indian woman who told me “he has been my lover since I was 12 years old. I love him. I wonder what happened to her. They married in about 2007 I guess.

  33. Vogel Says:

    I just learned that Niles was released from prison in November 2013 after a Florida Appeals Court upheld, on a technicality, his appeal of a previous conviction for molestation of a minor. The appeal argued that Niles’ 6th Amendment right (the right to a speedy trial) had been violated.
    http://www.dc.state.fl.us/InmateReleases/detail.asp?Bookmark=10&From=list&SessionID=475739902
    http://opinions.1dca.org/written/opinions2013/09-12-2013/11-6690.pdf

    In a nutshell, the appeal argued that State was at fault for not expediently bringing Niles to trial because they had failed to enter Niles name in a “national crime information computer database”. Had they done so, Niles’ appeal argued, he would have been apprehended (and brought to trial) because, even though he had been living in an RV and traveling across the US after the charges had been filed, he had a Florida drivers license and mailing address, and he had crossed the US border numerous times (e.g., from Mexico), where he could have been intercepted by DHS.

    This is the second time that Niles has been released from prison after successfully appealing a sex crime conviction; the first was in 2000, after he had been court-martialed and dishonorably discharged from the California National Guard (Case # 95-0738/AR).
    http://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/newcaaf/opinions/1996Term/95_0738.htm

    Michael Rainey was the attorney who represented Niles in both trials/appeals. The docket for the latest appeal states that Niles made a phone call from prison, in reference to a separate civil lawsuit, (which we haven’t heard a word about until now) in which he said: “They still want to depo me, but Mike [Rainey] is hiding me right now without letting them know.”

    The docket also mentions that Rainey had previously represented the father of the two girls that Niles molested.

    One remarkable detail that I stumbled on while reading the latest appeal docket was that it mentioned the following in reference to the criminal act:

    “While on an extended tour of the United States in his camper van, Niles visited the victims’ family in January 2000. Niles and the victims’ father became acquainted in connection with their military service and the father’s subsequent legal services on Niles’ behalf in a case unrelated to the instant case. During Niles’ visit, K.M. and M.M. told their parents that Niles had inappropriately touched them with a vibrator while they were playing in Niles’ camper van.”

    This is remarkably similar to the modus operandi in the crime that Niles was convicted for while serving in the California National Guard. The appeals docket for that case states:

    “Once in the quarters, OF accompanied appellant to his bedroom and complied with his suggestion to lie face down on his bed while he demonstrated use of the massager on her. According to OF, appellant claimed that her clothes were inhibiting the benefit of the massage, and he began removing them, despite her protests.”

 
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