http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp

It just goes to show that the masses can easily influenced.

MonaVie = Disney?
Distributors = Lemmings?

Just saying…

My motivation to check out MonaVie is because some friends have been letting the company run their lives. They have “new” friends that they spend more time with. New friends that they are going to get rich with together. They are all putting in the hard work now because it’s almost as if their future success is guaranteed. They post self-motivation notes and create vision boards that run their lives. I am all for self-motivation, but I create realistic goals. I know that I won’t become a millionaire without hard work.

Now, the juice may or may not be good. Personally, I think it’s overpriced. However, if I want to feel good, I will put in the hard work – exercise, eat healthy, take a vitamin, etc. The primary concern is the fact that they canceled plans we had this weekend. Instead of joining us for an annual event, that is held the same time every year, they canceled to go to their motivation meeting instead.

It hurts me to watch them work full time jobs and then spend their money based on a “promise” of getting rich, when I don’t ever see it happening. Therefore, I support sites like this that will hopefully undo what MonaVie has done to them before they fall out of my life forever.

In post #2 you mentioned Dallon Larsen? Isn’t his name spelled Dallin? Probably not a good idea to misspell your CEO’s name.

MonaVie “may” cure cancer or other ailments, but obviously it doesn’t cure stupid.

I can’t believe he thought the “erroneous claims” list was “ALL THESE CLAIMS WERE TRUE”

I guess his reading comprehension just kinda sucks.

And, thanks for a great site. Keep up the good work. You can’t save them all though (probably the same thoughts from the other side.)

I cleaned up your comment a bit. It will help me address your concerns and allow others to read what you are saying easier.

Credentials – They are only important to you. This website is for those looking for more information before making a buying decision on MonaVie. That’s why I say that Vogel is a space octopus from the plant Kelmar. I could be the absolute most evil person in the world and it wouldn’t impact any of the information in any of the articles. The messenger does not impact the message if the message is based on objective analysis as I do. My hope is that the people making the buying decisions are intelligent enough to realize this. I believe that credentials are only important to Mike, so that he can attack me (as he does in the rest of the email) and draw attention away from the product.

Consumer Reports – I did not compare myself to them. I said that you should think of me as looking out for people’s best interests as they do.

China, Drywall, Wall Street, Toyota, Mercedes, iPhone, etc. – I don’t see what any of these products have to do with MonaVie. The person coming to this website is here to learn about MonaVie, not any of those topics. Some of the arguments made by Mike here are just too off-base to even address. For instance, people don’t buy iPhones only to make phone calls. It seems that Mike just wants to deflect attention from MonaVie rather than refute any of the information in the site.

Testing the Product – This has already been done three times, as Food Tech mentioned and each time it’s back looking bad for MonaVie. I don’t know why Mike is asking for new tests when we have no information that the product or the testing procedures have changed since the last tests. Even if MonaVie did change their product, the tests prove the fundamental point that MonaVie was selling juice that wasn’t nutritious for years. Why would we trust a new version?

GoDaddy / Yahoo – If GoDaddy goes out of business this website will still be fine. Mike, has demonstrated a fundamental lack of knowledge on how the Internet works. I did know that Yahoo has a business website application for $9.99. A Blogger account from Google is free.

Failed Distributor and being a Competitor – Please note that those were a list of bullets of “most popular erroneous assumptions.” So it seems like you failed at reading. So your big “a-ha” moment kind of fails there, doesn’t it?

Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus – I have no clue the argument you are trying to make here. I agree that false in one thing doesn’t make them false in everything. I never implied that because they wrong about the protein part, they are wrong in other areas. However, if the salesman (a MonaVie Distributor) makes this common mistake as we’ve seen many times before one of two conclusions can be made:
1) Either they don’t know the product well enough… in which case they shouldn’t be selling it.
2) They are purposely trying to confuse the customer into making a purchase by using facts irrelevant to the product.

Either one of the above reflects very badly on MonaVie’s company and it’s product.

Did you have a point? Are you saying that Lazyman is a bully, and is picking on MonaVie?

That’s really too bad. Deal with it.

As for your suggestion about three studies on MonaVie, that’s already been done. AIBMR, Men’s Journal, and the one that I financed.

However, when I posted the results from my study, it was you who called Chromadex and threatened to sue them.

If you feel so strongly about all of the other issues that you’ve mentioned, I suggest starting your own blog. Make it pro-MonaVie, anti-Toyota. Whatever you want. Just stop crying.

To the general public. At the end of the day from my conclusion Juice Scam is working for a competitor. It is stated in his about me page. Do not shoot the messenger.

Here is what he is doing with his website beside and his sidekick – teaming up to respond to an email. I am merely doing what you he is doing here which is cutting and pasting his ABOUT ME Page and nick picking his intend which is what he is doing in general.

About Me

Many MonaVie distributors, preferred customers, or supporters in general come to this site making assumptions about me. So rather than tell you about me, I thought enumerate and dispel the most popular erroneous assumptions:

* I am a Negative Person – Nothing could be further from the truth. I’m quite positive. MonaVie supporters often don’t realize that spending $45 for a bottle of juice is outrageously expensive and it hurts the consumer’s chance for financial freedom. In a tough economy such as this one, I believe most people have better things to do with $5000 a year (cost for a family of four) than buy this juice. In addition to that, I want to clear up the misconceptions that MonaVie Distributors are spreading around the web. Consider me like Consumer Reports magazine, looking out the people’s best interests.

CAVEAT EMPTOR.
We live in America and it is everyone choice if they want to spend their money on junk. You are NOT Consumer Reports and you never will be because you are:

a) NOT revealing who you are except that you build website.
b) Had never pick apart any other products besides this one. If you have please lists all related website and most importantly your CREDENTIALS.

I think CREDENTIAL IS VERY IMPORTANT here don’t you think? Since you build website that talked about other inferior products. I want to make sure that we are not reading a post from a high school kid that is being paid by a competitor.:)

How about products that is made in CHINA? Now that is a WHOPPER if you ask me. Hmmm where do we start since their product is still out there in many stores and you are not even talking about it? Shame shame shame.

How about the DRYWALL that was shipped over during the housing boom? If my research is correct some of them are still slipping in from the west coast which I might add – IS MAKING THE HOME UN LIVEABLE and WORTHLESS.

c) I am again questioning your motive here AGAIN. Wall Street is still scamming people everyday but yet I do not see you tailing or talking about GOLDMAN SACHS for the huge debacle in our nation housing crisis and the homeless people that they have since put out onto the streets.

Toyota finally admitted their mistakes after the DOT finds out that they knew about their brakes issues way before they were caught. They have since killed INNOCENT people driving their car. Oh really – killing INNOCENT people is OK when you knew about it earlier on so you can saved monies on the recall.

c) Is a Mercedes Benz worth its price for taking you from point A to point B? If not buy a Hyundai. Simple.

By the way just in case you do NOT know this – Hyundai is getting better with their quality and it is price reasonably well. Simple.

Or an IPHONE? Is it worth the price for making a phone call? Again it is a matter of CHOICE AND THE RIGHT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL, PERIOD.

I am not going to go there with you in relation to other products and that is the reason why I put in etc… SINCE YOU HAVE SOOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS TALKING ABOUT MONAVIE YOU CAN ALSO DO THE REST FOR US HERE IN THIS FORUM.:)

* I am Unhappy – On the contrary, I’m quite happy. I love what I do. Most of the people reading this have not met me to make that judgment.

I will take a pass on meeting you. AGAIN you are merely cutting and pasting information from other website and merely pointing out comparison. You and your side kick added commentary and compare published docs, which is rather weak without any in depth research.

Spend some money and take it to 3 independent research labs and publish the report here. Now that is what I called research. Again please do not publish passed article. We the audience voted you to be the man. You will need new ones. OK.

On the other hand Consumer Report has their hands on a product. They TEST each product and then write about their pros and cons about them. Not you.

To me Consumer Report is FAIR and BALANCE. They do not build a website and cut and paste what others editors write from each different magazines or websites.

So please do not compare yourself to Consumer Report. You do not have the manpower, research, or the money to do it.

Oh I forgot you build website like GODADDY who does a better job for less and a much better job at that. Why not write about how they create a better mousetrap then you buying and borrowing codes on the WWW and you losing your ass every month hoping that they go out of business.

By the way did you know that YAHOO as a business website application for $9.99?

* I am a Failed MonaVie Distributor – I’ve never been a MonaVie Distributor or involved with MonaVie’s organization in any way.

Now which IS IT?

A FAILED Monavie distributor or never been involved? Do not blame the messenger here.

* I work for a Competitor – I create websites, mostly focused on educating consumers on how to get the most for their money.

Thank you for clarifying. NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU WORK FOR A COMPETITOR. TELL US WHICH ONE IS IT. I AM PUTTING THE HEAT ON YOU HERE..:)

Mostly focused on educating consumers on how to get the most for their money.

YOU KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PRODUCTS OUT THERE THAT ARE OVERPRICED AND INFERIOR. PLEASE SHARE THEM WITH US. AGAIN WE VOTE YOU TO BE THE MAN SINCE YOU HAVE SO MUCH TIME.

You might want to join GO DADDY or YAHOO. You might do better there since your research is pretty much cut and paste info and you can have a monthly steady income and stock options THERE.

I do not participate in any MLM businesses nor do I have anything to do with juice sales.

You can usually tell when someone is on the losing side of the argument when he/she resorts to attacks of the messenger (me). This is a classic debate tactic called Ad Hominem, which is Latin for “argument against the person.” Wikipedia gives an example:

“An ad hominem argument has the basic form:

Person 1 makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person 1
Therefore claim X is false”

Thus just because I make a claim and you find something about objectionable it does NOT mean that my claim is false. One should be wise to not shoot the messenger.

You have tried to add some Latin language to your blog here but let’s try this:

Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus which is “false in one thing, false in everything” against the person

This Latin phrase means “false in one thing, false in everything”, and it is often used to label someone found to be wrong on one issue to also be wrong with regard to other issues.[4]

This is a logical FALLACY because being found incompetent in one respect does not imply that one is incompetent in all other respects.

This is an example of an ad hominem argument and a special case of the association fallacy.

The last thing that I’d like to address is why I’m anonymous. I don’t think my name or qualifications are relevant to the information on this site. I back up my facts with sources liberally, so you don’t have to take my word for anything. Just about anything that you see that doesn’t have a source referenced is because it’s common sense. For instance when someone says that acai has the protein profile of an egg, I point out the fallacy of the logic… since MonaVie has 0 grams of protein per serving. You don’t need to be a protein expert to know that if the final product has no protein, the protein profile of one of the ingredients is of little value.

I agreed with you on the protein part. Again I referred to – Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus. That does not mean that they are wrong in the others. Got it?

Again if you are a competitor I believe FULL DISCLOSURE and A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD is the most important here. You will need to clarify who you are working for and that is how we create a PLATFORM for FAIRNESS and BALANCE DEBATE and we can then discuss your product that you represent as well.

By the way I am creating a website from Yahoo for $9.99 including having numerous of my sidekick to response to you. I hope you submit my comment here because I want the people that read your blog that you are nothing but a COMPETITOR AT THE END OF THE DAY FROM YOUR ABOUT ME PAGE.