Here’s some facts of MINE:

1. I was involved with TEAM in the Quixtar days and then into the Monavie days. I was involved for 5 years. I did EVERYTHING I was supposed to do. After 5 years, I filed for bankruptcy. Maybe it was just me and I did everything wrong… so

2. As of today I have 350 people under me. That number hasn’t changed much since I stop being active. Out of those people, most are not active. The ones that are active are not making any income at all (I can see their pin level). There is no one under me in 5 years that is making money. The $200 or whatever amount they make in a certain good week doesn’t count when on average they have more money going out to buy the product and tools. None of the “leaders” above me outside of the original big guy is making money either. Most have dropped out.

3. “The product can’t be counted as an expense because it’s something you use.” That statement is false. The big complaint that TEAM has with Quixtar and sued them over was the fact that people were forced to buy product they don’t use to get a paycheck. Nothing has changed. It’s the same thing. If the product was so good, wouldn’t I still buy it after I stopped being active in the business? I personally never found much of a benifit from using it and it’s unGodly expensive. Everyone person under me that no longer is active in the business has stopped buying the product. Every one of them. Even some of the poeple that are still trying to build are not buying the product.

4. Two years ago I would have been totally on here defending the business and saying all the things the pro-monaviers are saying. That’s because I was still in it and still sold on it. My comments now are made with experiance. Again I say, I was in it for 5 years and I really did everything I was taught to do. Believe it or not. In those 5 years, there has not been one person that has come and gone or stayed that has made it. Not one.

When I referred you to the FTC guidelines and recommendations regarding Pyramid Schemes, you replied:

“As for the govn telling what is illegal and legal, I have more faith in, well I wont go there, since it is ok to be illegal and live in this country fully supported by those who earn an income.”

Which has nothing to do with MonaVie.

But think on this: in the heavily regulated automobile industry, how long do you think your employer would be able to remain open, providing you with income, if he/she picked and chose which federal regulation they wanted to comply with? Noncompliance simply because one disagrees with the regulation is not an option. The same applies to MonaVie and their distributor force. You cannot pick and choose which regulations to obey.

First of all, keep the language on here civil.

Second, Scott did mention a lot about the car industry. I think there are very few industries where you work yourself up from the janitor to the president of the company. I don’t think that I’ve seen one car salesman ever try to sell me on being a car salesman. They simply sell cars. That’s a big difference to MonaVie.

Third, Market Value doesn’t apply to MonaVie. Please continue the discussion about MonaVie’s market value there not here.

Fourth, since we are talking about cars, it does make sense to bring up one of my MonaVie and car analogies.

FACT: MonaVie has an ORAC score and total polyphenol level lower than Welch’s Grape Juice (concord).

FACT: The low anthocyanin level indicates low levels of acai.

FACT: 9 ounces of MonaVie (two days serving) has an ORAC score and polyphenol level lower than ONE red delicious apple.

FACT: MonaVie is a little less than one USDA fruit serving, not 5-13.

FACT: There are zero clinical double-blind studies initiated by MonaVie to prove that it can treat and cure anything.

Now, talk to me as if I were a consumer, that’s never heard of your product. What selling points would you use to justify buying your product, instead of Welch’s Grape Juice?

Remember, you aren’t allowed to lie or use claims of treatment or cure.

I’m listening.

It appears that the “juice business” you are involved in does indeed fall into that category, as defined by the Federal Trade Commission.