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	<description>Is MonaVie a Scam?</description>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people claim to be financially sound when they really aren&#039;t.  Many people thought they were financially sound until a stock market crash and housing bubble crash in the last few years.  Maybe you&#039;ve got millions of dollars in a money bin.  In that case, I say go for it.  Nearly $5000 a year for fruit juice is up there.  At least you can buy it on Ebay and save a ton of money.

Mr. Jackson, as you probably know MonaVie is not medicine and it can&#039;t help you with pain or arthritic symptoms.  There have been many studies (you can see a few cited at &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine#Evaluation_for_health_effects&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) that show glucosamine to being no better than placebo with arthritic symptoms.

Furthermore, it has been shown that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MonaVie provides little nutrition&lt;/a&gt;.

When &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/the-problem-with-the-try-monavie-argument/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you use the &quot;I&#039;ll just try it&quot; line of thinking&lt;/a&gt;, you are opening &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-the-placebo-effect/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yourself up to the placebo effect&lt;/a&gt;.

There is little evidence that acai is a superfruit.  The term superfruit isn&#039;t scientific.  I could say an apple is a superfruit and we&#039;d have to agree that it is just as super as acai since there is no definition.  
If you really want acai, you shouldn&#039;t get it in juice form.  When a fruit is juiced much of the fiber is stripped away in the processing.  Costco has some dark chocolate-acai bites that would give you more superfruit at a likely better price if you indeed decide to go that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people claim to be financially sound when they really aren&#8217;t.  Many people thought they were financially sound until a stock market crash and housing bubble crash in the last few years.  Maybe you&#8217;ve got millions of dollars in a money bin.  In that case, I say go for it.  Nearly $5000 a year for fruit juice is up there.  At least you can buy it on Ebay and save a ton of money.</p>
<p>Mr. Jackson, as you probably know MonaVie is not medicine and it can&#8217;t help you with pain or arthritic symptoms.  There have been many studies (you can see a few cited at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine#Evaluation_for_health_effects" rel="nofollow">here</a>) that show glucosamine to being no better than placebo with arthritic symptoms.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it has been shown that <a href="http://www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial" rel="nofollow">MonaVie provides little nutrition</a>.</p>
<p>When <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/the-problem-with-the-try-monavie-argument/" rel="nofollow">you use the &#8220;I&#8217;ll just try it&#8221; line of thinking</a>, you are opening <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-the-placebo-effect/" rel="nofollow">yourself up to the placebo effect</a>.</p>
<p>There is little evidence that acai is a superfruit.  The term superfruit isn&#8217;t scientific.  I could say an apple is a superfruit and we&#8217;d have to agree that it is just as super as acai since there is no definition.<br />
If you really want acai, you shouldn&#8217;t get it in juice form.  When a fruit is juiced much of the fiber is stripped away in the processing.  Costco has some dark chocolate-acai bites that would give you more superfruit at a likely better price if you indeed decide to go that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-vs-sambazon/comment-page-2/#comment-46548</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been drinking Monavie for over a year now. I am financially sound so the money making part was of no interest. I suffer from Crohn&#039;s disease which I have had for over 15 years. With this I can become very tired, I have lots of stomach pain and arthritic type symptoms. I am one of those people that will try it for myself and if works it works if not I will move on. After a week of drinking the Monavie Active and (m)Mun I felt better then I have in years and then tried their weight loss stuff and lost over 25lbs. After a month I started to cut back on some of my meds and have had less issues and pain then ever. Mornings use to be the worst time of the day now its my favorite. Yes the stuff is very expensive and I spend upwards of $300 a month by the time I buy for myself and family.

Now to my question: Has anyone in this blog tried both Monavie and Sambazon? If so, can you tell me if you had the same response from Sambazon as you did with Monavie? If so please respond. I&#039;m no idiot, if I can spend less and get the same results I am happy to switch to Sambazon or any other product that will effect me as much as Monavie has. I don&#039;t give a crap about numbers, this and thats and who say&#039;s what. I just want results and if I can do it at lower cost then great, maybe I will spend the extra money on more product to give away and spread the word because yes &quot;acai&quot; is a SUPERFRUIT!!! in more ways then I would have ever believed. 


Respectfully,

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been drinking Monavie for over a year now. I am financially sound so the money making part was of no interest. I suffer from Crohn&#8217;s disease which I have had for over 15 years. With this I can become very tired, I have lots of stomach pain and arthritic type symptoms. I am one of those people that will try it for myself and if works it works if not I will move on. After a week of drinking the Monavie Active and (m)Mun I felt better then I have in years and then tried their weight loss stuff and lost over 25lbs. After a month I started to cut back on some of my meds and have had less issues and pain then ever. Mornings use to be the worst time of the day now its my favorite. Yes the stuff is very expensive and I spend upwards of $300 a month by the time I buy for myself and family.</p>
<p>Now to my question: Has anyone in this blog tried both Monavie and Sambazon? If so, can you tell me if you had the same response from Sambazon as you did with Monavie? If so please respond. I&#8217;m no idiot, if I can spend less and get the same results I am happy to switch to Sambazon or any other product that will effect me as much as Monavie has. I don&#8217;t give a crap about numbers, this and thats and who say&#8217;s what. I just want results and if I can do it at lower cost then great, maybe I will spend the extra money on more product to give away and spread the word because yes &#8220;acai&#8221; is a SUPERFRUIT!!! in more ways then I would have ever believed. </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a MLM site commenting on ASEA:

http://mlmblog.net/site/2010/02/asea-scam.html

If you read the comments, you will find it almost identical to the way MonaVie is both criticized and promoted... hmmm...

Could this not be the &quot;salt water of a thousand truths&quot;?  I was so pumped for it&#039;s redox molecules to wash down my gullet and cure all my ailments in one swift stroke. 

Here&#039;s a good e-mail signature:
&quot;NOT ALL MLMs ARE PYRAMID SCAMS. I agree… most are! But this is REAL!&quot;  -Whiplash, ASEA believer in the one true MLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a MLM site commenting on ASEA:</p>
<p><a href="http://mlmblog.net/site/2010/02/asea-scam.html" rel="nofollow">http://mlmblog.net/site/2010/02/asea-scam.html</a></p>
<p>If you read the comments, you will find it almost identical to the way MonaVie is both criticized and promoted&#8230; hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Could this not be the &#8220;salt water of a thousand truths&#8221;?  I was so pumped for it&#8217;s redox molecules to wash down my gullet and cure all my ailments in one swift stroke. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good e-mail signature:<br />
&#8220;NOT ALL MLMs ARE PYRAMID SCAMS. I agree… most are! But this is REAL!&#8221;  -Whiplash, ASEA believer in the one true MLM</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great argument Jeremy, I didn&#039;t realize Sambazon is the s--t.  If I had known, I would have prostrated myself to them as well.

Compared to MonaVie, Sambazon is saintly, but that doesn&#039;t mean it shouldn&#039;t stand up to scientific analysis.  What we are trying to do is cut through the BS and as Food Tech said, get real data instead of marketing propaganda.   

That being said, I do drink Sambazon from time to time, and I have no real ill will towards it, so I am not sure where your belligerent attitude comes from, as no one has really said anything about the product other than to put it on the testing table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great argument Jeremy, I didn&#8217;t realize Sambazon is the s&#8211;t.  If I had known, I would have prostrated myself to them as well.</p>
<p>Compared to MonaVie, Sambazon is saintly, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it shouldn&#8217;t stand up to scientific analysis.  What we are trying to do is cut through the BS and as Food Tech said, get real data instead of marketing propaganda.   </p>
<p>That being said, I do drink Sambazon from time to time, and I have no real ill will towards it, so I am not sure where your belligerent attitude comes from, as no one has really said anything about the product other than to put it on the testing table.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey F--kers! Leave Sambazon alone... They are the s--t! And they do business the way it should be done. At least they don&#039;t scam a 100K people into buying a shit load of their product with the idea that they are gonna be rich.

Plus, can you eat granola with monavie? I don&#039;t think so!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey F&#8211;kers! Leave Sambazon alone&#8230; They are the s&#8211;t! And they do business the way it should be done. At least they don&#8217;t scam a 100K people into buying a shit load of their product with the idea that they are gonna be rich.</p>
<p>Plus, can you eat granola with monavie? I don&#8217;t think so!!</p>
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		<title>By: Food Tech in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-vs-sambazon/comment-page-2/#comment-33301</link>
		<dc:creator>Food Tech in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skanda, please read the study.  The comparisons are for juices, iced tea, and red wine.  No fresh fruit was compared, nor were any dry powders analyzed. The study seems to be valid, in my opinion.  If you have some issues with the methodology, please be specific.

As for your pure pulp smoothie pack, please cite the analysis which validated your claim.  Also, if you wish to post ORAC scores from any of your any beverages, please do so.  Again, no offense, but I need verifiable data, not marketing propaganda.

Forgive me for not believing any of the nonsense the fad juice people throw around.  Show me the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skanda, please read the study.  The comparisons are for juices, iced tea, and red wine.  No fresh fruit was compared, nor were any dry powders analyzed. The study seems to be valid, in my opinion.  If you have some issues with the methodology, please be specific.</p>
<p>As for your pure pulp smoothie pack, please cite the analysis which validated your claim.  Also, if you wish to post ORAC scores from any of your any beverages, please do so.  Again, no offense, but I need verifiable data, not marketing propaganda.</p>
<p>Forgive me for not believing any of the nonsense the fad juice people throw around.  Show me the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Skanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to &quot;Food Tech in CA&quot; posted Dec 7th @ 7:58pm...

Yup, as you may or may not have noticed, the UCLA study was a bit of a mess... It compares mixed juices with fresh fruit and in some cases dry powder. We also believe there could be significant methodological flaws as well... BTW, The Co-Investigator of the study has a POM connection...  Needless to say, the study was, well less than scientific if you catch my drift.

If you were going to compare pure fruits, why would you have selected our Acai/Mango blend rather than our Pure Pulp?  This is a rhetorical question BTW : )

That&#039;s right... fruit juices compare to fruit juices and fruits to fruits.  Weather something is super is subjective (not scientific).  Both sides of my brain rest assured that our products are indeed super (fresh, potent, organic, fair trade, yummy, driving ecological sustainability etc.)

I really think you&#039;d like our Pure Pulp Smoothie packs!  They yield over 10,000 ORAC/3.5oz (100g) individual smoothie pack.

Thank you for your candid opinions - I mean it!

I&#039;m happy to share that we have a clinical trial (controlled human pilot study) about to publish showing real world benefit in our acai lowering blood sugar and insulin.
 
TBC &amp; Happy Holidays All,

-skanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to &#8220;Food Tech in CA&#8221; posted Dec 7th @ 7:58pm&#8230;</p>
<p>Yup, as you may or may not have noticed, the UCLA study was a bit of a mess&#8230; It compares mixed juices with fresh fruit and in some cases dry powder. We also believe there could be significant methodological flaws as well&#8230; BTW, The Co-Investigator of the study has a POM connection&#8230;  Needless to say, the study was, well less than scientific if you catch my drift.</p>
<p>If you were going to compare pure fruits, why would you have selected our Acai/Mango blend rather than our Pure Pulp?  This is a rhetorical question BTW : )</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right&#8230; fruit juices compare to fruit juices and fruits to fruits.  Weather something is super is subjective (not scientific).  Both sides of my brain rest assured that our products are indeed super (fresh, potent, organic, fair trade, yummy, driving ecological sustainability etc.)</p>
<p>I really think you&#8217;d like our Pure Pulp Smoothie packs!  They yield over 10,000 ORAC/3.5oz (100g) individual smoothie pack.</p>
<p>Thank you for your candid opinions &#8211; I mean it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to share that we have a clinical trial (controlled human pilot study) about to publish showing real world benefit in our acai lowering blood sugar and insulin.</p>
<p>TBC &amp; Happy Holidays All,</p>
<p>-skanda</p>
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		<title>By: Food Tech in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Food Tech in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, I&#039;m a bottom line numbers person, so I&#039;ll get right to it.  There was a study by the Center for Human Nutrition, David Geffen School of Medicine, UCLA.  It was published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2008, 56, 1415-1422.  Comparison of Antioxidant Potency of Commonly Consumed Polyphenol-Rich Beverages in the United States.

One of the products tested under the acai juice category, was Sambazon Mango Uprising (lot ASA07029 APR 2007, lot 0610T HA16PTK13, 4/7/2007, lot ASA07073 12 JUN 2007).

The study found that this product had an ORAC average of 17.1 umoles/ml.  That&#039;s even less than ORAC-anemic MonaVie (22.81 umoles/ml.), and well behind Black Cherry Juice (25.3 umoles/ml.), Blueberry Juice (20.6 umoles/ml.),  Concord Grape Juice (25.9 umoles/ml.), and Pomegranate Juice (25 umoles/ml.).  I can see why you don&#039;t advertise your ORAC.  The average phenolic content of acai juices (all brands) was 2.1 mg/ml.  Blueberry juice was 2.3 mg/ml., Concord Grape Juice was 2.6 mg/ml., and Pomegranate Juice was 3.8 mg/ml.

One red delicious apple (150 gm. avg) will give you an ORAC value of 6,413 umoles.  An 8 oz. glass of Sambazon Mango Uprising will give you an ORAC value of 3,034 umoles.

So, again, fruit juices do not compare to fruits.  Please stop insisting that these are some type of super juices.  They are not.  If anyone wants to drink your product, I have no objections, because the price is far more reasonable than MonaVie.  But super, it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, I&#8217;m a bottom line numbers person, so I&#8217;ll get right to it.  There was a study by the Center for Human Nutrition, David Geffen School of Medicine, UCLA.  It was published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2008, 56, 1415-1422.  Comparison of Antioxidant Potency of Commonly Consumed Polyphenol-Rich Beverages in the United States.</p>
<p>One of the products tested under the acai juice category, was Sambazon Mango Uprising (lot ASA07029 APR 2007, lot 0610T HA16PTK13, 4/7/2007, lot ASA07073 12 JUN 2007).</p>
<p>The study found that this product had an ORAC average of 17.1 umoles/ml.  That&#8217;s even less than ORAC-anemic MonaVie (22.81 umoles/ml.), and well behind Black Cherry Juice (25.3 umoles/ml.), Blueberry Juice (20.6 umoles/ml.),  Concord Grape Juice (25.9 umoles/ml.), and Pomegranate Juice (25 umoles/ml.).  I can see why you don&#8217;t advertise your ORAC.  The average phenolic content of acai juices (all brands) was 2.1 mg/ml.  Blueberry juice was 2.3 mg/ml., Concord Grape Juice was 2.6 mg/ml., and Pomegranate Juice was 3.8 mg/ml.</p>
<p>One red delicious apple (150 gm. avg) will give you an ORAC value of 6,413 umoles.  An 8 oz. glass of Sambazon Mango Uprising will give you an ORAC value of 3,034 umoles.</p>
<p>So, again, fruit juices do not compare to fruits.  Please stop insisting that these are some type of super juices.  They are not.  If anyone wants to drink your product, I have no objections, because the price is far more reasonable than MonaVie.  But super, it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah Ed, I like the whole crunchy granola/Amazonian surfer-lifestyle angle of Sambazon&#039;s marketing. But like I said, all acai companies get tarred by the brush that Monavie wielded so ineptly. It would behoove us all to unite and change the situation. Let&#039;s get past the marketing veneer and talk about some of real meatier issues. Surprise me; tell me something I don&#039;t know. And don&#039;t pull any punches for Monavie. Silence on that issue disturbs me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah Ed, I like the whole crunchy granola/Amazonian surfer-lifestyle angle of Sambazon&#8217;s marketing. But like I said, all acai companies get tarred by the brush that Monavie wielded so ineptly. It would behoove us all to unite and change the situation. Let&#8217;s get past the marketing veneer and talk about some of real meatier issues. Surprise me; tell me something I don&#8217;t know. And don&#8217;t pull any punches for Monavie. Silence on that issue disturbs me.</p>
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		<title>By: Skanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, I can see now that my second long one did post - hurray!

-ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, I can see now that my second long one did post &#8211; hurray!</p>
<p>-ed</p>
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