MonaVie vs. Sambazon |
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(…or How a Distributor Fixes the Competition)
I just finished reading this “side by side” comparison of MonaVie and Sambazon. After comparing the process behind the products, he concludes they are similar. He then states that a bottle of Sambazon is $2.99 while a bottle of MonaVie is $39.99 or more. Sounds like the MonaVie distributor is going to go with the sane choice and say that MonaVie is out-matched.
Of course the author doesn’t do this. He compares the cost per serving. There is where the logic falls apart. A true side by side comparison would be to compare the cost of MonaVie per ounce vs. the cost of Sambazon per ounce. You end up getting just an ounce of MonaVie for the $1.80/serving… but you get nearly the whole bottle in Sambazon’s $2.30/serving. So rather than congratulate Sambazon for using serving sizes that people actually drink, he twists it into some kind of negative. When you break it down ounce for ounce, the Sambazon becomes $0.29/ounce vs. MonaVie’s $1.80/ounce (plus shipping). It’s not close is it?
He then goes on to say:
No matter how much Sambazon I drink and no matter how many people I tell about Sambazon, I will never get paid to drink it.
That’s one of the very odd statements you’ll hear MonaVie distributors say. When you look at the MonaVie Income Disclosure Statement, you’ll note that 82% of the people (Distributor and Star level) who are actively trying to sell the juice, end up having to work 500 hours a year to break even on the $1500 of juice they drink. Do if you actively working the business, and you better than 82% of the people also working the business, you may get free juice for a year by donating 500 hours of your time. By the way, 500 hours is 31 days at 16 hours each. Yes, it’s a month of your life working 16 hour days for “free” juice. Another way to look at it is two months of your life working standard 8 hours of your life for “free” juice. That’s spending 1/6th of your yearly work life for “free” juice.
The other factor that I liked about MonaVie is the fact that you can have it automatically delivered to your doorstep every month.
MonaVie offers free shipping? Of course not. You have to pay for that, but with Sambazon, I just put it in my cart as I’m already at the store buying milk and other staples. The shipping cost of MonaVie is another negative.
MonaVie is 100% juice, there is no water and the juice in MonaVie Active and Pulse is not from concentrate. Only 1 of Sambazon’s drinks is 100% juice and they all contain water and juice from concentrate.
It’s completely unclear how MonaVie can add something freeze-dried without reconstituting it with water. It simply doesn’t make sense. Also since Sambazon is 1/6th the price of MonaVie, as long as it has more than 16.6% juice, you are getting more juice for your money. It’s simple math… You can get one ounce of 100% juice at $1.80 with MonaVie – or 6 ounces of Sambazon’s 80% juice (equal to 4.8 ounces of MonaVie’s 100%) for the same price. You still get nearly 5 times more for your dollar. That was the lowest amount of juice as Sambazon also had a 95% juice and a 100% juice option.
The sugar per serving for Sambazon is: 20g for Supergreens Revolution, 21g for Antioxidant Trinity and 30g for Strawberry Samba. The sugar per serving for MonaVie is: 3g for MonaVie Original, 3g for MonaVie Active and 7g for MonaVie Pulse.
More “serving size” trickery. Sambazon’s serving size is 8 ounces, so it’s sugar is actually less than MonaVie’s. It’s another example of false – “side by side” comparison. There’s more to it though as he goes into calories a serving and fat a serving. Again, you are getting 1/8th the amount of juice with MonaVie, so you should expect 1/8th the calories and 1/8 the fat.
My favorite source of lies was this one though…
Q: What is the ORAC score for your product?
A: Sambazon.com: One of our Acai smoothies or juices (10.4 fl oz.) have anywhere from 5,000- 15,000 ORAC units.
Monavie.com: Four ounces of MonaVie has an approximate ORAC value of 4,000 to 5,000 units. This is the approximate ORAC value of 5 to 13 commonly eaten fruits and vegetables. Health experts currently recommend consuming 5,000 ORAC units per day for optimal antioxidant protection.
***SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON*** If you break down the ORAC unit scores per oz. Sambazon smoothies or juices have between 481 to 1442 units per ounce and MonaVie has between 1000 to 1250 units per ounce.
We already determined that MonaVie is clearly lying when it says it’s approximately 4000-5000 ORAC units. This is a big advantage for Sambazon.
So the real side-by-side comparison:
Sambazon: 481 to 1442 ORAC units/ounce (average is 961.5 ORAC)
MonaVie: 672.6 ORAC units/ounce
Sambazon Cost/ounce: $0.29
MonaVie Cost/ounce: $1.80
So for 1/6th the price, you can get what is likely to be 30% more ORAC.
Originally posted 2009-09-23 16:47:10.
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September 24th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I find it amusing that Monavie distributors often point to the fact that they get paid to drink it as a positive thing, apparently unaware of how it looks to the rest of us.
See, we can’t exactly take your glowing praise of the product at face value, given the glaring conflict of interest involved in being both a distributor and a drinker of Monavie. That sort isn’t exactly the most trustworthy, you know?
January 8th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
how come you don’t comment his and link to yours or at least let him know his errors in his computations?
January 9th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
I don’t like to promote my articles on other websites. I don’t want people to think that I’m trying to spam his “pro-MonaVie” site with my “anti-MonaVie” stance.
He didn’t have a contact form or button that I could see either.
March 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
There’s always someone out there trying to bash the (per Inc. 500) #18 fastest growing privately held company in the United States. #1 in the Food and Beverage Category, and #3 in overall revenue.
No network marketing compant has ever even been on the Inc. 500 list.
The product is legit, the company is legit, and no other “Acai” beverage can touch it right now. It’s not even close.
Those are the facts.
Let me know when Sambazon shows up at the Academy Awards VIP Lounge or on The Doctors Show, or in the clubhouses/locker rooms of professional sports teams, etc….
Not everyone gets paid to drink it. In fact, a majority of the people who sign up as distributors or preferred customers aren’t even doing the business. That must mean the PRODUCT IS LEGIT. HELLO!!!!!
I’m guessing most people in the US spend way more than “500 hours” per year WATCHING TV or doing some other unproductive activity. Turn off your TV people. Stop watching the BS! Get healthy and make a difference.
March 8th, 2010 at 11:28 am
You might want to read this post about the Inc. 500 list – http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-inc-magazines-500/. It’s a pretty arbitrary list of qualifications and almost all the other companies in list are not ones that anyone has heard of.
What kind of fact is “product is legit, the company is legit, and no other ‘Acai’ beverage can touch it right now.” That is all opinion.
MonaVie didn’t “show up” at the Academy Awards VIP Lounge. They paid for the privilege. Same with the locker rooms of professionsal sports teams. Sambazon could have done the same, but they choose substance over the glitz. Perhaps that is why they don’t need to retail the product at $45.
Did you tell people to stop watching television at the same time you give MonaVie credit for being on The Doctors Show? Wow. I think everyone is entitled to their own form of entertainment. All work and no play makes Johnnie a dull boy, right.
You managed to not give a single reason why the product is “legit”, but you did use the word legit a number of times. Good job!
March 8th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
http://www.aibmr.com/resources/articles-and-reports.php
Let me know when Sambazon’s research gets published in peer reviewed scientific journals.
And if you’re going to watch TV, you might as well watch something educational, right?
Scam, you can get a bottle of Monavie for as little as approx $20-$22
Sambazon is the team drink of which professional team?
March 8th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Let me know when the AIBMR research shows that the juice is has value. When you read the study, it becomes clear that it’s not special in any way. Being published in a peer-reviewed journal is only a good thing, if the study is helpful to the juice.
Here is your Sambazon study – http://www.bevnet.com/news/2010/2-1-2010-Sambazon_announces_results_of_acai_study. It’s probably too new to make the journals yet.
Yes, MonaVie can be had for $20-22 if you buy it in huge bulk (I think a distributor quoted it as a 6-month supply costing me some $500+). Even with the bulk purchase (a big negative for MonaVie), Sambazon is still about 1/3 the price.
Sambazon chooses not to pay to sponsor a team. The savings go to the customer. Perhaps MonaVie shouldn’t be paying to be the team drink of a professional team and pass those savings on to the customer as well.
Let me know when MonaVie is certified organic like Sambazon.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Paying for publicity is never a bad thing, right?
March 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Unless of course it’s bad publicity.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
And that’s what MonaVie paid for when they commissioned AIBMR to research it.
I don’t think paying for publicity is a bad thing, but it’s not a good thing either. I doesn’t mean MonaVie is better than any other juice.
March 8th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
“Let me know when the AIBMR research shows that the juice is has value.”
I challenge you to go back and read the studies objectively and find language that shows the juice has value. I know that may sound like an odd request (given your pro-Sambazon bias, but give it try. I guarantee you it’s there.
and then…
Show me the link to Sambazon’s research published in a Peer Reviewed Scientific Journal.
March 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
I couldn’t find anything in the AIBMR studies that compared MonaVie to any other juice. It is expected that juice is good for you. Outstandingly high performance is required to justify MonaVie’s outstandingly high price. Where are MonaVie’s comparisons to other juices so that we can judge that performance? It’s like me asking you to choose car A or car B without telling anything about the cars other than the price. Sorry, I’m going to take the lower priced every time.
MonaVie’s website touts ORAC score as being an important measure of the value of it’s juice. Sambazon’s ORAC is higher and it’s cheaper. In fact an apple is better than 9 ounces of MonaVie: http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-vs-an-apple/. Why don’t you mention that? Again, MonaVie isn’t certified organic.
Also, I don’t believe the AIBMR studies are peer-reviewed. There are studies in The Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, but I don’t think they were done by AIBMR. Please tell me which journal article you want me to review and I will do so. Also please provide me a link to that article so that I can review it. (Linking to: http://www.aibmr.com/resources/articles-and-reports.php doesn’t count, as the articles are not there.)
March 8th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I want you to read all of them.
Here’s a little teaser from one:
“MonaVie Active has not only shown experimentally to increase antioxidant activity in human serum, leading to a decrease in lipid peroxidation in the blood stream, but there is also evidence that MonaVie Active provided antioxidants that are able to penetrate cells. This study confirms that by drinking four ounces of MonaVie Active containing Brazilian acai berry, the subjects had a significant increase in their antioxidant capacity and inhibition in lipid peroxidation, which reduces the risk of cholesterol being oxidized. Oxidized cholesterol has been shown to contribute to damage to the internal lining of the arteries.”
March 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
I have read all them. The one you mention sounds a little like the one here: http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/jafcau/2008/56/i18/pdf/jf8016157.pdf (PDF file). I have pointed out how badly done that study was in comment 974 here: http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monaVieArchive.php. So you don’t have to go there here’s what I said:
They aren’t proving that MonaVie is better is than other juices or fruit. They are just proving that MonaVie is like fruit. You know what else is like fruit? Fruit.
March 8th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
And where’s the research on Sambazon?
Monavie: 1
Sambazon: 0
March 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Why not publish a critical analysis in the JAFC? Then you could say you yourself had a study/analysis posted in a peer reviewed scientific journal.
This blog carries no weight.
March 8th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I linked you the research before: http://www.bevnet.com/news/2010/2-1-2010-Sambazon_announces_results_of_acai_study
Again no response to Sambazon being certified organic and MonaVie not. Looks like MonaVie loses again.
March 8th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
I have no interest in going through whatever process it is to get an article published in the JAFC. I’m already published here. More people can find this information by searching Google where as the JAFC, doesn’t come up very high.
I don’t know what you mean by “This blog carries no weight.” I only put information out there for people to read. I strive to make sure that information is accurate. That’s an important thing, because MonaVie distributors are spreading inaccurate information. If you read this article you could easily see the mistakes that the other MonaVie website made. Anyone can come here and use site to research MonaVie. For instance, people may not have realized that they can buy a juice (Sambazon) with 30% more ORAC at 1/6th the price of MonaVie.
March 8th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I didn’t know about that Sambazon study. Good find LM. You’re right; it doesn’t seem to have been published yet. But while I was looking on PubMed I found an interesting acai juice study, published in the journal “Appetite” last year, entitled “Effect of a health claim and personal characteristics on consumer acceptance of fruit juices with different concentrations of açaí (Euterpe oleracea Mart.)”.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19467277
Essentially, the study showed that when acai-related health claims were relayed to consumers (particularly those who didn’t initially like or intend to buy acai juice), it made them more inclined to like acai juice, perceive it as having value, and to buy it. This was a somewhat intuitive result, but an interesting one nonetheless. Another interesting finding was that older subjects and women were most likely to accept fruit juices for which particular health benefits were claimed. This seems consistent with Monavie’s target demographic, which predominantly consists of women and elderly/retirees.
I found another interesting article published recently by the Brazilian Ministry of Health indicating that Chagas disease (a very serious health problem in South America) can be transmitted orally by consumption of acai fruit.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19331764
In this study, acai consumption was the suspected cause of 178 cases of Chagas reported in the state of Para, Brazil in 2006. This finding is interesting in light of the fact that Monavie distributors always concoct stories about how acai has been used by the Brazilians as medicine for hundreds of years and they pretend that Monavie is helping to save the rain forest, but they never mention any downsides; eg, Brazilians who consume acai can contract Chagas disease (as can the workers who harvest the berries and are exposed to insect-borne Chagas), and overseas demand for acai is causing prices to escalate beyond the reach of Brazilians who depend on it as a dietary staple (cf. “‘Superfood’ Promoted on Oprah’s Site Robs Amazon Poor of Staple”; Bloomberg News – May 14, 2009).
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ai8WCgSJrhmY&refer=home
I also found this article (“What Is the Açaí Berry and Are There Health Benefits?”) written by Wendy Marcason, a registered dietician who works at the American Dietetic Association’s Knowledge Center in Chicago, which was published in late-2009 in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association. The author, who incidentally had reviewed Schauss’ acai study, concluded the following about acai:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19857637
“Until the health benefits of the açaí berry are scientifically proven, it seems more reasonable, cheaper, and safer to get antioxidants from other fruit and vegetable sources. To get the recommended daily amounts of antioxidants, the 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend eating two cups of fruits and two and one half cups of vegetables each day based on a 2,000-calorie-perday diet.”
Marcason also discussed the online acai berry scams and the legal action that’s been taken to stop them, as well as the lawsuit filed by Oprah et al. (which we all know named Monavie as a co-defendant). She also said “ignore endorsements” and “check out the BBB” (which, as we all know, has variably rated Monavie between an F and a D minus this year).
Lastly, there’s this article published 2 months ago by the University of California Berkeley. The title says it all – “PONZI BERRY”!
http://www.berkeleywellnessalerts.com/alerts/dietary_supplements/acai-berries33-1.html
March 8th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
LOL at all of that bogus research above.
And Scam, where is that study published? You could be improving your health, helping others get what they want, and getting what you want. I guess this is the “Big Dream” you’ve chosen to go after. Sad sad sad!!!
Monavie was dropped as a co-defendant in Oprah’s lawsuit. Do your homework!!!
March 8th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I am improving my health and helping others. It is you who is defending the sale of $45 juice that is shown to be worse than $4 juice.
March 8th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Bogus research, eh Fred? And Monavie’s completely self-serving research is supposed to hold more weight…why now? Think McFly, think!
C’mon Fred, give it a rest already. More and more, people are coming around to the Monavie lie. Your customer base is already dwindling before your eyes, and it’s just a matter of time before the FDA comes a-knocking, asking Monavie why it continues to allow its distributors monkeys to toss atypical anecdotes about the juice’s alleged health benefits all about the internet like so much textual feces, and you’ll be shut down with nothing to show for your psychotic devotion to the Monavie cult but wasted time and wasted money.
It might not happen today, it might not happen six months from now, but it will happen. Delve into the history of some of Monavie’s biggest players and you’ll see how a similar scam went down not too long ago. This will end the same way, you can count on it.
So hey, take some of your advice and stop wasting your time. This is a losing battle. No matter what you say, or how smug and dismissive you act in the face of it, the truth will catch up to you people in the end.
People just aren’t as stupid as you folks are banking on them to be. Stop insulting us with this bullcrap and grow the hell up already.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Stop wasting your time here folks.
This is a toxic website filled with nothing but hate, lies, and misinformation.
Go after your dreams. Be positive in life because what you focus on expands.
The negativity here is tragic!
I’ll take my bottle of Monavie, PUBLISHED research, better health physically, financially, emotionally, and spiritually and go on my merry way. May you all (you too scam) find peace and happiness somewhere in your lives.
I’m out!
It’s SIMPLE It’s FUN It’s MONAVIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Yea Baby!!!!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:26 am
MonaVie Scam, That was a great article about Sambazon, thank you!
Vogel, I enjoyed the “Ponzi Berry” article, and your links to other research. The Chagas thing is a bit concerning.
Fred, Nice rebuttal…
You haven’t provided one shred of proof to back up your position! Nothing…It’s such typical MonaVie proponent behavior that it’s now just laughable and expected. Can you provide proof for anything you’ve stated here? Can you show us where and when Oprah dropped the lawsuit against MonaVie?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Fred, please hop back in you playpen, take a big suck on your acai-juice box, and let the adults talk.
I couldn’t find any news on Google to confirm Fred’s claim that Monavie had been dropped as a defendant in the Oprah lawsuit. I did, however, find this interesting article on the subject posted on this website. I was particularly struck by this quote:
“Network marketing companies will always be held accountable for the actions of their sales force, regardless if the company condones the behavior or not.”
http://www.nextgenerationlaw.com/oprahs-lawsuit-serves-as-a-strong-reminder/
If that’s the case (as it appears to be), the company will have a lot of atoning to do for Fred’s loathsome behavior, not to mention a litany of graver sins.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Just a few things before I officially “go on my merry way.”
Hopefully you all will find the time to find your real calling (I’m hoping what you’ve written here is not it).
The great thing about Monavie is not the money, or that it is helping so many people…it’s the “relationships” and personal growth you experience when you try to help yourself and others. I’ve met and reconnected with so many wonderful people since I’ve jumped into Monavie. It has taken me from the comfort of Ordinary into a place where Dreams can happen.
If Monavie is not the company for you, I hope you all find something that will take you to a place where you are helping others, believing in yourself, and making your dreams happen.
Good luck to all of you.
Focus on the POSITIVE and you will be REWARDED….Focus on the negative and you will wallow in misery and misfortune for the rest of your lives.
POSITIVE POSITIVE POSITIVE!!!!!
Fred
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am
The reincarnation of Jim Jones
March 9th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Jacked on the juice.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I do focus on the positive, Fred. I’m positive that Monavie is a scam at the price, I’m positive that you and yours try to justify that price with potentially deadly lies, and I’m positive that you and the rest of the soulless denizens of the Monavie pyramid will get yours in the end.
How’s that for positive thinking?