MonaVie vs. an Apple

I went back and found links to the sources so you can verify them yourself. Thanks for reminding me.

I love apples and eat them nearly everyday. However, my severe cervical and lumbar spine degenerative disc disease have never improved by eating apples. I have tried MonaVie green label for 1 week and rather than the nightly Darvocet I have had to take in order to sleep (by decreasing my pain level), I am sleeping in comfort with nearly no pain. I am aware of what our minds can do when we sincerely want to believe that something is working. However, I intend to try the product for at least 3 months to determine whether it genuinely is responsible for the significant decrease in back pain. I am a professional in private practice and have no time to become in involved in the MLM component of Momavie and will not become active as a distributor. I will sign up as one in order to purchase the product for the discount I’ll be given when I am enrolled. I burned out on MLM years ago and have no interest in that form of sales.

as usual with all people who say monavie is a scam you have made up information and incorrect math

The antioxidant value of Apples, Red Delicious, raw. with skin described in ORAC units is:
4,275
μ mol TE/100g

The antioxidant value of Acai berry, freeze-dried described in ORAC units is:
102,700 μ mol TE/100g.

upto %30 of Active bottle is the freeze dried acai berry. I’ll let you do the math from there

Red delicious doesn’t even come close!!!!
how many chemicals are that apple btw or is it organic (organic is not $.75)

typical – internet is not always right people – too bad you’ve skewed your vision

Acai berries are NOT cures – they balance out the body so the body can do it’s work on keeping you healthy. All this juice is is a source for westerners to eat a proper amount. If you think you would rather spend $24 dollars a day on apples be my guest!!

continue spewing your “listen to me I have nothing to say” attitude

here’s the website

oracvalues.com/sort/orac-value

it’s people like you who turn good ideas into crap and yell hey look at this crappy product because i say it’s crappy. In person you are a shallow man who dominates people by making them think that you know more than they do. After your 20+ years of college has not made you any smarter, only more ignorant!

Devon, when you compare the total ORAC for a serving size, it’s important to know the serving size. The USDA ORAC Table of Selected Foods sets most of the servings at 100 gms (3.5 oz.). So, you need to adjust your numbers for the product.

The apple (red delicious variety) averages 150 grams for a medium. So, simply multiply 42.75 times 150. This is 6,413 umoles for one apple.

The acai concentrate that you mentioned is one of 19 fruits added to MonaVie. It’s ORAC value is of no use to someone drinking MonaVie. Only the ORAC of MonaVie is important.

As mentioned, AIBMR Life Sciences (Dr. Schauss) found MonaVie’s ORAC to be 22.81 umoles/ml. To figure out the ORAC of 4 oz. (daily serving) simply multiply 22.81 times 4 ounces (91.24) times 29.57 (mls per fluid ounce). This gives you 2,698 umoles per 4 oz. of MonaVie.

Apple (150 gm.): 6,413 umoles
MonaVie (4 oz.): 2,698 umoles

As for your claim that a bottle of MonaVie contains 30% acai: pure nonsense. There are no studies that suggest such a thing. If it were, you wouldn’t even be able to pour it out of the bottle.

MonaVie scam- hahaha it caused you to have severe cervical and lumbar spine degenerative disc disease???? haha sure…. why are you wasting your time? mona vie is worth 3billion bucks! it took them less than 5 years to do it. Microsoft, fedex, yahoo ect. took 7years to reach $1billion.it takes more than one company to fool the world. your a hater and must have failed at the mona vie business part and since you have failed you have to bash on them now. haha. maybe a red apple has more whatever, but does the apple come filled with 18 other fruits? of course mona vie is gonna keep how much acai is in mona vie a secret so the worthless wellness drinks like noni and gojo cant compete(which they cant) do you know coca colas secret? Companys keep secrets from other companys that they cant get a paten on to keep the other companys from doing the same thing, its business, yes mona vie is a great product, and is it a sin to have a business behind it? hell no! before a new model of car comes out the car manufacturing plant goes on shutdown where nobody can go in except a select few, so when the car comes out other companys cant put it on their new cars and compete. I know this from working at Honda for 15 years. Its called business. stop being a hater and do somthing productive with your life, after 15 years at Honda i retired and do mona vie full time and make $2,000/week. youre digging the hole deeper, just stop while you can still jump out of it.
-Bill- not all are like that, youre judging the whole company based on one person, if someone tells me no thanks, i say thank you for your time, here is my card with websites on it, do some homework and if it seems a little interesting then get back with me, again thanks for your time and God bless. not once have i ever asked anyone to join or buy a product and am a Ruby in the business. Dont ASSume, because it only makes an ASS out of yourself, dont judge a book by its cover bill.

Where is the proof that MonaVie is worth 3 billion dollars? Let me know which accounting agency keeps their books. Or give me their stock symbol like Microsoft, FedEx, or Yahoo… oops they don’t have one.

An apple doesn’t come filled with 18 other fruits, but V8 Fusion (as one example) has a pile of them… and it’s about $3 for 46 ounces.

Coca Cola doesn’t try to justify pricing itself 10x above competitors with unsubstantiated health claims like MonaVie distributors do. If it did, you’d rightly want to ask what the basis is for those health claims.

MonaVie distributors love to say that MonaVie has a high ORAC score, so the apple is simply proof that isn’t that high. So if you are a MonaVie and singing the song of high ORAC scores it’s time to learn a new tune.

I dont “sing the tune”. 90% of people in mona vie dont even do the business part, so its not just distributors making claims. go to youtube and look up all the mona vie videos, the doctors, rachel ray, MTV cribs. Magazines like Fortune, vogue, AOL money and finance, People StyleWatch, Reuters, and the biggest INC.500. 27million business in the USA and mona vie is ranked 18th overall out of 27million, being #1 in food and beverage, and number 3 in revenue(MONEY). go to inc.500.com click on the list, scroll to #18 and you will see mona vie with a revenue of 855 million, im sure they are worth a lot more in one year.you really think the proffesional athletes would waste their time with mona vie?
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Regular cheep fruit is not organic, all that fruit at the store has been spraid with every kind of pesticide, herbicide, larvicide, fungicide. The US has decided they are going to genetically modifiy things we know nothing about. The acai berry is flash frozen. i gladly pay 145 a case a month for 100% organic fruit and a berry i can only get from the Amazon.

Monavie scam, i can’t find data relating to the Men’s journal experiment comparing Monavie against other juices. There is just the article. Do you know if Chromadex or Men’s journal released the actual test results? Was it just a one-off test?

To be fair to Dr Strauss, at least his test results were published in a scientifically peer reviewed journal and are therefore transparent (hopefully). In my opinion, if Chromadex/Men’s Journal haven’t produced the details of their test i don’t think it is fair to use their conclusions.

Richard B,

First, let me thank you for the most intelligent debate I’ve seen on here in some time. I appreciate that you don’t attack me like most MonaVie distributors. It’s as you say, I just want to get an opposing viewpoint out there, so that people can think critically, with an unbiased source of information, and make an informed buying decision.

I don’t believe that testing for chemical analysis is typically published in a medical journal. Why would any medical professional care about the level of antioxidants in a fruit juice? It doesn’t advance the medical profession any. I don’t want my doctors wasting their time reading about a study of chemical analysis of a proprietary juice.

I think chemical analysis is a pretty straight-forward test that Chromadex runs fairly often (at least a number of times in the Men’s Journal article). Should we doubt their process when it’s their specialty and they are unbiased?

Lastly (on that topic), Men’s Journal obviously doesn’t have the space in their magazine to publish the details… nor do they have the interest as their readership is just looking for the conclusions, not pages of analysis.

To be fair to Dr. Schauss, his tests backed up the Men’s Journal one. If you read those reports you find that MonaVie openly lies about it’s ORAC score.

“Actual biological in vitro and in vivo tests using Monavie have demonstrated that cellular and serum antioxidant capacity does increase alongside reduced cellular inflammatory response.”

I hope you are not referring to this study. There were numerous things wrong with the study. I haven’t gotten around to creating an article here about all of them, but you can read a pile of them in comment #974 here. I basically said the same thing as you did, this test didn’t do a comparison against a group that ate fruit. Once they do that, they’d still have to do one that proves that MonaVie helps a group that eats a reasonable amount of fruit (a more typical person rather than an antioxidant deprived one). After all, MonaVie Product Specialist Sarah Brown reminds us that MonaVie doesn’t provide us with vitamins, minerals and other nutrients of fruit… meaning that you still need to eat fruit.

I agree with you on ORAC. However, MonaVie touts it’s ORAC and it’s importance. If they want to give that argument in the debate, then it’s fair to compare MonaVie ORAC scores to an apple.

I am surprised that a scientist like yourself would buy into MonaVie’s “independent research” when it all seems to come from Dr. Alex Schauss who is on MonaVie’s advisory board.

Why doesn’t MonaVie spend a few hundred dollars to have Chromadex test the juice and publish the results. MonaVie can’t like the Men’s Journal conclusions, and it would be a small investment to them to publish a conflicting study. The only thing that could go wrong is that Chromadex was right and MonaVie would be paying to support their conclusion. Perhaps MonaVie already did this and found that they didn’t like the results, so they didn’t publish it.

If Dr. Strauss’ new book on the acai berry says that it’s good, that means the wise consumer should drink something like Sambazon that (I think) comes with organic certification, tells you how much acai you are getting, and is a lot cheaper. I suggest reading this comment, which dissects how much acai is actually in MonaVie.

So much here… let me dig in…

You make a point that if it’s a good product you can theoretically build a good business out of it. I would say that a Yugo was a fine enough product, but at $50,000 per car it would have been tough to build a good business. The product not only has to be good, but it has to provide value to the consumer.

Also building a business on one product (a juice) is dangerous. When you are deciding to build a business, you need to evaluate the points of failure outside of your control. When Larsen’s Dynamic Essentials was ended because of problems of claims of their Royal Tongan Limu juice all those people who built businesses had it die. MonaVie is clearly headed that same path (we’ve all seen the illegal claims that distributors are making).

You say that you mitigate the high cost of the juice by taking half of the recommended amount (2 ounces a day instead of 4). Since you say that the in vivo results of that test are important to you, it seems odd that you wouldn’t take the same amount as that study.

It is interesting that you are drinking the juice despite admitting that you don’t have any money. Even at the 2 ounces you are drinking you are drinking about $600 worth of juice a year. If you chose another juice (say cranberry) at least you get 8oz of thirst-quenching beverage for a cheaper price.

As much as you respect the J. Agric. Food Chem., basic commonsense shows that this study isn’t very useful. Rather than address the issues I brought up you just deferred to their expertise of the journal. I don’t know the journal’s publication process and can’t speak to that. I think it’s fair to actually discuss the study.

I don’t know much about the TBARS test. As you mention, I’m not an expert. However, comment #1462 here is an expert having an issue with the TBARS. That person, Vogel, has previously said that he’s a scientist and shows a great amount of scientific knowledge there.

I’d like to see the J. Agric. Food Chem on the antioxidant capacity of apples that you mention. One of my biggest complaints with this is that there was no comparison to basic fruit. For all we know, it might have a bigger effect.

There are simply too many questions with this study to give it any value. We don’t know if MonaVie has any in vivo effect on people with a normal diet (as opposed to the restricted diet in this study). And again, these in vivo results are reported by someone (Dr. Schauss) on the MonaVie advisory board so his reputation is of critical importance in evaluating the study. It’s a little too convenient that all these studies on MonaVie and acai are tied to one person who (I would think) earns a paycheck from MonaVie.

Thanks David,

I haven’t asked MonaVie about the ORAC discrepancy that you mention specifically. I have had a couple off-the-record conversations with them where a person admitted they could have handled some things better in the past. I want to stress that I’m convinced that person wasn’t referencing this.

I don’t think MonaVie is very keen on going on record with me giving on the questions posed here. I know that people in MonaVie know this site exists and if they want to respond I welcome it. I would rather have an open forum that everyone can follow than me and MonaVie on a private phone call or e-mail.

Since you are a new distributor and you find it concerning, perhaps you have an inside track on getting your concern answered?

By the way, I think you are right that ORAC is probably not the only factor at play, but MonaVie and their distributors seem to use that as a major selling point. I think MonaVie either has to decide if it’s a factor in play and defend it’s ORAC score vs. an apple, or come up with some other factor worth caring about.

There must be some results you are getting that you aren’t telling us.

Remember that MonaVie (even MonaVie M(Mun)), can not claim to have had any effect on the number of colds you get. You can’t legally say that and “this is not all MonaVie is doing for me” without making an illegal health claim.

I can’t speak to all the technical points here, but I will speak to some.

1) MonaVie has used it’s ORAC score as a major selling point. MonaVie distributors confuse people by talking about the ORAC score of freeze-dried acai. If MonaVie’s ORAC score is anything near low or medium, MonaVie and it’s distributors should stop all marketing with ORAC score, publicly apologize for all previous marketing of ORAC score, and make sure that no MonaVie distributor ever mentioned the ORAC score of freeze-dried acai.

Distributors have admitted to me in the past that they use this ORAC score of freeze-dried acai in a misleading manor to make sales.

2) So this is further evidence that ORAC is useless. Sounds like all parties agree on that.

3) This is irrelevant because the subjects weren’t allowed to have normal or even healthy diets. Again, at the very best this someone completely void of any antioxidants and someone with some antioxidants. Who isn’t to say that just a vitamin C pill equivalent to what’s in MonaVie doesn’t explain this result. The whole experiment could tell us nothing that we already didn’t know – vitamin C could be good for you.

4) Yes, “unidentified compounds”… We can split an atom into subatomic particles and particles that even smaller than that, but we are supposed to believe there are some “unidentified compounds” in MonaVie. Even if true, there are still much cheaper 100% acai juices out there, so there’s no reason to buy MonaVie’s expensive version.

5) “Possibly” not an issue because [X] “might” be due to [Y]. By reading that, I don’t know if it is an issue, but the fact that it might is a cause for concern and doesn’t support this study.

6) I’m not really concerned about it having some antioxidant effect. I would expect that to be the case for juice. I am concerned about how much of an antioxidant effect it has and how much (if any) more value that I’m getting for my dollar vs. all other sources of antioxidants.

The last point is why I always compare MonaVie to a Yugo. It could get you from point A to point B. I don’t argue that point. I would argue that people shouldn’t price Yugo’s at $50,000 and claim that it’s much better than any other car.

Obviously the average person can look at a Yugo and realize that’s a poor value at $50,000. However, as we see here, it’s very, very difficult to look inside MonaVie.

This is why MonaVie has to make it easier for us and prove it’s value vs. other juices. MonaVie has chosen not to walk this path. Instead, they go with marketing and an MLM distributor program that try to get people to focus on dreams of getting rich like an a pyramid scheme.

Richard B,

My concern with the in vivo tests by Dr. Schauss is quite simple. When a study is conducted on a food or beverage, it’s important that the amounts of the product used in the testing are the same that the consumer would be using.

MonaVie, quite clearly, says to use 1 to 2 ounces twice a day. Most people, therefore, would drink 2 ounces in the morning and 2 ounces in the evening.

In the AIBMR study each participant is given a single 4 ounce dose of MonaVie. So, they are starting off with, what is in fact, a double-dose. I have yet to hear of any MonaVie user drinking 4 oz. once a day.

If you want to find out how many calories are in a Big Mac, you don’t use two Big Macs as your sample.

So, in my opinion, the study is invalid.

As for the ORAC and polyphenol (phenolics) discussion, I can say this. MonaVie uses these as selling points for it’s product. If they wish to back-peddle, fine.

Remember, Dr. Schauss lists the TOTAL phenolics (all of the plant-based polyphenols combined) as 1.48 mg/ml. This equals 175 mg. for 4 ounces of MonaVie. One apple (150 gm.) has 520 mg. of polyphenols.

Another selling point is the acai. Dr. Schauss makes a big production about the high ORAC of his processed, freeze-dried acai concentrate. He says it is at 1,027 umoles/gm. (even though his patent lists it at 536 umoles/gm.)

However, MonaVie’s ORAC is only 22.81 umoles/ml. So, how much acai do you figure is in the product?

To corroborate this, we look at the anthocyanin content of MonaVie. Anthocyanins are the predominant polyphenol in acai. We would expect it to be high. It is not.

Anthocyanins would be expected to be high in most of the various other fruits found in MonaVie. Yet, Chromadex records it as 0.095 mg/ml. Compare this to red grape juice, which one analysis showed an anthocyanin level of 0.77 mg/ml (Dietsche, et al).

I paid for a simple analysis of MonaVie Active last year. The polyphenols were actually higher than the AIBMR study. The anthocyanins were lower. What would raise the polyphenols yet decrease the anthocyanins? White grape juice.

White grapes do not contain significant levels of anthocyanins, but they do have polyphenols. White grape juice is also very inexpensive, and along with apple juice and nashi pear juice (other MonaVie ingredients) are very common fillers in the juice industry.

If you would like a copy of the Chromadex analysis (anthocyanins and polyphenols) please email me at Foodtech101@Yahoo.com.

Richard B,

Per your question regarding studies performed on apples and other fruits, please review this one, presented in the Nutrition Journal (2004):

http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/5

I believe MonaVie has a lot of catching up to do before they can consider charging $30+ a bottle, compared to the $0.75 per apple.

I am trying to evaluate Monavie to satisfy my own opinion as to its quality. It can be very difficult to tell fact from fiction on some issues with Monavie on one side and websites like this on the other, so i am trying to sort through it all to come to a conclusion as to whether i should continue being a distributor.

let me clarify a couple of things:

1. i have only just joined Monavie so i am not high up in the company;
2. I admit i am not an expert in food nutrition but i do have a general background in science.

In my last post i probably came across as being authoritative – which i am not – but i was trying to play Devil’s advocate if you like.

Now, it sounds like Vogel is some sort of expert which is great. Could he confirm what scientific capacity he speaks in?

Maybe he could shed light on the following as well:

1. Are there alternatives to the TBARS test for measuring lipid peroxidation? Looking on the net (which isn’t exhaustive i know) i got the impression that its flaws are known but there is isn’t much of an alternative. i would be interested in seeing some critical reviews.

2. CAP-e test. I would also like to be directed to more critical reviews of this. Isn’t this test quite new and won an NPI award? Again, are there any alternatives?

2. Strauss’s background. This is all quite confusing. That newspaper article about Strauss doctoring his certificates is from 1989. Is there any newer stuff on him? What about all the high-profile stuff like being a fellow of the American College of Nutrition, an Emeritus Member of the New York Academy of Sciences or winner of the Linus Pauling award in 2005? Is that all BS as well?

3. Whats all this about posting my name and Monavie ID? I can’t see anything in the contractual terns and conditions about doing that.

Richard B,

I believe Vogel provided excellent answers already, to your questions.

However, in regards to your question on alternative methods besides TBARS, you may find this study useful: http://honors.uno.edu/docs/KaydianOralDefensePresentation.pdf

As for the CAP-e assay, it is still too new to make a final judgement. To say “look, this test found that the antioxidants were able to penetrate the cell walls and survive”, could be significant if they were to compare it to some well-designed controls. For example, common fruits and juices already in the market.

Since, we have no history on the CAP-e, the significance is questionable. Also, it appears that this test would be more valuable as a qualitative, rather than quantitative test.

As for Dr. Schauss, his doctorate came from California Coast University, which is a non-classroom, non-laboratory, correspondence “school” in Santa Ana, CA.

Make what you want out of that. Anyone that uses his entire powerpoint presentation bragging about a substance (freeze-dried acai concentrate) that is surely found in minimal levels in MonaVie, has a problem with ethics.

You’ll have to talk to the FTC about freedom of speech. I think people’s welfare comes first. For instance, you’ll find your freedom of speech does not allow for yelling “Fire!” in a crowded movie theater.

According to the FTC and MonaVie’s guidelines, here, the results of what you are saying must be typical. There is nothing in MonaVie (that I know of) that would lead it to be any better with helping high blood pressure.

People may think they may not have made changes, but external conditions happen all the time. Different weather pattern could lead to less stress which could lead to lower blood pressure as one example. We have scientific processes in place which is why one person’s anonymous testimony on the Internet fails to carry any weight.

5 Tips Every MonaVie Distributor Needs to Know About the New FTC Guidelines

Like I said Im a prefered Customer The tips do not apply to me.

Lynn, the FTC guidelines apply to anyone making any kind of health claims that are not typically applicable. I realize that you aren’t a distributor, but I believe that testimonies of any kind are still subject to the FTC’s guidelines.

Person after person are also potentially monetary biased in numerous ways… which might be why they that. They are also probably influenced by the placebo effect. Did you factor that into things? After all, a MonaVie employee called me “an annoying douche” (and MonaVie admits that), but she didn’t said she had never tried MonaVie and never mentioned an affiliation with MonaVie. So please excuse me when I don’t accept anonymous medical testimony on this product.

If MonaVie was actually good, it would be in every grocery store in the nation so that they can maximize sales. They wouldn’t rely on anonymous medical testimony to sell juice at $45 a bottle (even at the preferred customer rate, it’s more than any other juice at my grocery store).

It’s basic common sense.

I am a Consumer the Ftc does not apply to me.
The Ftc is in place to protect Consumers.

If people aren’t paying $45 than MonaVie and it’s distributors likely fail the significant retail sales test of whether a product is part of an illegal pyramid. Read this piece where it says:

“There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company’s incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company’s distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.”

If few people (or any in your words) aren’t paying the $45 retail price for MonaVie Active it looks to be a problem with the FTC.

I realize that MonaVie won’t sell to grocery stores. My theory on why MonaVie chooses to do business that way is that they love the fact that people are in person convincing their family and friends and whispering behind closed doors a medical benefit that they should not mention. If you have a better theory as to why MonaVie is not selling to grocery stores, where they could make millions more, I’m all ears. I think it’s because they couldn’t sell their juice at $20 or $45 next to a bottle of V8 Fusion, Tropicana mixture (forget what it’s called) or other option that is around $4.

I also have no reason to get on here and lie. I just want to save consumers money. If MonaVie wants to charge $4 like other juice, I would not be questioning it. At $20 or $45 I need scientific justification for, or else, like any other smart consumer, I’m saving money.

Can you prove that the other things didn’t work… or are we just taking your anonymous word for it? If I say that I drank MonaVie and it raised my blood pressure, then how do we reconcile the difference? Can you prove that MonaVie did that and that nothing else could have possibly been a factor? No. The one thing that we can prove is that MonaVie lacks nutritional value. We back up that study with Dr. Schauss’ own information.

Did the other things cost as much as MonaVie? Maybe you could look into the Price-Placebo Effect as well.

Belief in God? What does anyone theological beliefs have to do with any potential the benefit of MonaVie? Is there some religion out there that mentions MonaVie by name in their ancient scripture?

I realize that the FTC is in place to protect consumers. Part of that protection is about making sure that people don’t make medical claims that aren’t shown to be true.

If MonaVie’s products have medical benefit there are paths they can take to get that kind of certification. If MonaVie chooses to not take those paths (as they have thus far), then let’s just stop all talk of medical benefits except for the one’s they’ve been approved to make (which are related only to MonaVie Pulse to the best of my knowledge).

You might want to watch this
http://www.realhealthanswers.com/acai-TV/Dr-Clayton-part1.htm

MonaVie Scam,

Great points! Here’s the MonaVie Pulse Guidelines from MonaVie’s Black Diamond University website:

Important Guidelines
• MonaVie products (including Pulse) are not intended to replace or mimic the activity, effects, or benefits of drugs or medications. Do not substitute or replace your medication(s) with MonaVie Pulse.

• The plant sterol activity, effects, and benefits in MonaVie Pulse as it relates to heart health and cholesterol are significantly less than that found in drugs.

• If you have a concern of any kind related to MonaVie Pulse or its contraindications with medications, consult with your physician before consuming MonaVie Pulse.

• Do not use MonaVie Pulse as an alternative to physician consultation or advice.
• MonaVie Pulse does not cure heart disease.
• MonaVie Pulse does not cure, treat, mitigate, or prevent serious cholesterol problems.
• MonaVie Pulse is intended for healthy people, not for people with heart or cholesterol diseases.

Why do you delete post that challenge your views? My friend lynn put post on here that you deleted. Whats up with that? You are just Anti Monavie and thats all there is to it.
Im glad people can see through you.

I think Lynn made the mistake of sending two comments in a row that were basically a URL with little commentary.

When you post something like: “You really want to watch this” and a link, the spam filter thinks it’s just promotional. If you do it twice, it thinks some Internet robot is trying to spam the site.

Here ya go

http://www.pilatesacademy.com.au/Dr.%20Ralph%20Carson%20interview%20on%20CBS%20radio%20on%20MonaVie.pdf

Brazilians know what a rip off the MV product is.

I spoke to my friend who is a fighter recently about this topic.

Brazilians can buy pure Acai Berries by the bag, for a few dollars….fresh as can be.

He knows, not thinks, that MV is way overpriced.