MonaVie, Secret Formulas, and Coca-Cola

I think it’s interesting that MonaVie was compared to CocaCola in a positive light. I would imagine anybody interested in drinking MonaVie would certainly not be interested in drinking soda. Sodas often have the side effect of caffeine dehydration, meaning any “thirst quenching” effect is little more than the superficial sensation of drinking, and will leave your body even less hydrated, just as with alcoholic beverages.

I don’t see much problem in terms of the nutritional value of monavie. Fruit puree is not as good as eating the fresh fruit, but the concentration of antioxidants in the MonaVie blend (regardless of the formula’s ratios)should be just as good if not better than most fruit juices available. The problem is all in the serving size.

By claiming a very small serving size, MonaVie can give the impression that each serving does not cost significantly more than the competition. Of course, the consumer then has to be exposed to an absurd amount of marketing to be convinced to overlook the fact that the nutritional value of an indivicual serving is a fraction of what a “typical” (much larger) serving of a competing fruit blend would provide.

Exactly. Serving size always has to be taken into account. What is the total number of milligrams of a substance consumed?

In the case of a juice or soda, increasing the serving size also means that you increase the amount of sugars consumed. So, it all has to be looked at carefully.

MonaVie, of course, wants the individual to think of the product as a medical treatment. This is why they have directions on how to drink it (1 to 2 oz. twice daily). Does that sound like something that you’d see on a beverage? They could have replaced 1 to 2 oz. with 4 oz. twice daily. Wouldn’t make a bit of difference to the alleged effectiveness of the product, since it doesn’t do anything for you anyway.

The real issue is the cost. How gullible are the distributors? How much will they pay?

Drinking 8 oz. would cost well over $10 a day. or $3600 per year per person.

This is an incredibly cost ineffective way of getting antioxidants.

One of the pros of drinking a soda or beer if you’re thirsty, is that the carbonation tends to cleanse the mouth of the “yuck film” that builds up. Otherwise, water is the best.

Good point, Kyle. If a label said “less fat”, it lists the fat. If it said “more protein”, it lists the protein. If they want to brag, then we’ll expect numbers to back it up.

Rick, we already know more about the product than you ever will. What possible reason would I have to throw away money on an over-priced fruit punch? Is that your best sales pitch? Tell you what. You buy my miracle spring water for $100 a bottle and I’ll buy your MonaVie for 6 months at $45 a bottle.

If you keep this up Rick, I think your posts will start getting deleted. You aren’t bringing anything to the table, and gay-bashing certainly won’t help your case. Shape up or ship out.

Rick, you are obviously ignorant of FoodTech’s analysis and his background. I suggest you spend some time reading his comments here. He shows a great degree of knowledge where you seem to bring name-calling and gay-bashing to the table. If you think this reflects well on you, you are mistaken. It also reflects poorly on MonaVie.

Next time you might try to use logic and reason to explain why MonaVie is better than an apple (despite the fact that an apple clearly seems better).

As for MonaVie Pulse, you might want to check out the home page – http://www.juicescam.com/, and the section listed MonaVie Pulse and Lowering Cholesterol. The quick summary is that you can get more the cholesterol fighting plant stanols at 1/88th the cost of MonaVie.

As for Mmun, look elsewhere on this site. The touted ingredient, Wellmune, can be had for very, very cheap and it’s effectiveness is debatable. And you really don’t want to bring up Paul Clayton as he came to this site, basically made a fool of himself, and was shown to not be a reputable doctor. (In fact, he’s a pharmacist, just like my wife and her 25 pharmacist friends that laugh about MonaVie.)

So we should take food tech’s test who has an obvious agenda against Monavie and believe that?

So just cuz your pill has plant sterols that means it’s more effective than the Monavie Pulse product? lol…….How about the fruits which the added plant sterols and the reservatrol? I personally know people who this product has helped tremendously.

But since you can find something that has plant sterols that’s cheaper is must be better right?

So if I go Payless shoes and buy a pair of sneakers that are made of rubber they will do the same job as as a pair of Nike’s but do they have the same quality?

You know easy it is to go on google and find things to compare ish too…….I find it funny that you say Monavie has no scientific background (which it does) but then you go out and find some random supplement on the internet lol….

Wellmune-Beta Glucan is a great ingredient that has 12 patents and $250 million dollars of research behind it. You think that’s a joke?

Combine that with now with one of the newest most powerful berries the Maqui Berry and 17 other exotic fruits and you have a unique and superior blend.

But keep hating. You say scam Monavie hits the Inc.500 list 18th overall #1 food and beverage. You say scam the Ceo gets the Entrepenuer of the Year in the Emerging category from Ernst&Young a very prestigious company.

Keep crying scam it’s very easy to nitpick things and ridicule it’s so easy a caveman could do it.

@Rick,

I have attended meetings about MonaVie and have purchased the product. You might compare the “opportunity” to a TimeShare in that it is a product that doesn’t “sell itself”. Instead, it relies on a sales pitch describing how much money can be made if you continue to sell it (or in the case of a TimeShare, how you can get your money back if you sell your time and ultimately resell your TimeShare for what you paid, which will never happen). If the opportunity is to sell a product with a 50% personal profit margin and additional profit for my recruiter and his/her recruiter, then I have to realize that my product is marked up far more than it needs to be, even before the membership fee.

That said, when it comes to products that may affect your quality of life, many people are willing to pay a premium to get the “best”. So you are correct in saying personal experience is valuable. I would therefore like to share my personal experience. I used to suffer from terrible fatigue, particularly that “2:00 feeling”, and that was before I became a parent. I made a lifestyle choice to ensure I eat several servings of fruit for breakfast every morning and vegetables for lunch. My fatigue problem was gone. I thought I was on a roll with trying new dietary choices, so I gave MonaVie a try. (After all, it is easier to drink your fruits than eat them!) However, when I substituted my bowl of fruit for a shot of MonaVie, I found I had mild fatigue and occasional headaches again.

I can only conclude I should continue eat fruit the old fashion way.

Rick, it was only Food Tech’s money. The lab was chosen by MonaVie distributors, the bottles were supplied by MonaVie distributors. MonaVie distributors came to me to tell me this test was fair and that it would prove things once and for all. It’s not “FoodTech’s test.” Also, this test only proved what MonaVie’s Dr. Alex Schauss’ tests also showed, that it wasn’t very nutritious.

MonaVie’s Pulse’s claim in helping cholesterol is based on the amount of plant sterols. The FDA allows cholesterol claims based on the studies of plant sterols. That is why getting more plant sterols are more important. You’ll note that MonaVie Original makes no claims on helping cholesterol. So we can’t give any value to fruit or resveratrol for that. The FDA doesn’t allow for cholesterol claims on resveratrol. How much resveratrol is in 4 ounces of MonaVie Pulse? I couldn’t find an amount labeled, so the company could be adding a drop for marketing reasons. If it was a significant amount, they’d probably be proud to tell us. It’s not like it’s a competitive secret like the amount of acai, since resveratrol has no taste. However, because I’m feeling nice, I thought I’d spend a minute and find that 250mg of full-spectrum resveratrol is available for under 50 cents a pill on Amazon. I bet I could find it cheaper, but again at least I know how much I’m getting:

Biotivia Resveratrol Bioforte 250mg.

Also if you are looking for both fruit AND VEGETABLES, put it in V8 Fusion Acai Berry. Or just eat an apple. We are still talking about a lot more cholesterol fighting power for much, much, less money. The two pills and 4 ounces of V8 Fusion come in at around 80 cents.

Rick said, “So if I go Payless shoes and buy a pair of sneakers that are made of rubber they will do the same job as as a pair of Nike’s but do they have the same quality?” Perhaps not. That’s kind of the point of this site. We are trying to figure out the quality of MonaVie. Every test seems to show little quality. MonaVie isn’t helping us out by giving us a reason to believe it’s quality. It’s like paying a lot of money for Nike’s and having them all fall apart in a three days while the Payless shoes continue to be great for years. We can’t depend on people’s perception due to the placebo effect. So are we just relying on MonaVie’s word that it’s better quality? As a consumer I need proof that product is better or I’m going to go with the cheapest solution thing that seems as good. And when that cheapest solution actually looks better from all the tests we have, my wallet does a little happy dance.

I didn’t say that MonaVie has no scientific background. I think MonaVie realized that they could take what they had before, crush up some of the supplement that I mentioned, blend it into the juice and try to justify selling it for more. I didn’t chose the supplement at random… I looked for something that delivered the same plant sterols that MonaVie claims. I did it to specifically to point out that if you really believe in MonaVie Pulse, you can get the same stuff elsewhere for cheaper and even get more of it since MonaVie provides the bare minimum to make a cholesterol claim.

Regarding Wellmune-Beta Glucan, I again point out that one can get Wellmune (the exact same brand with “12 patents and $250 million dollars of research behind it”) for much cheaper than buying MonaVie M(mun). MonaVie does not have any exclusivity on Wellmune. Also, while it may have patents, the research that I’ve found doesn’t seem to make it that great… for instance people got sick just as often and for just as long in the one study that I found. If people could provide more I’d look into them. One thing to think about though, is that if $250 million of research went into Wellmune, why doesn’t Wikipedia know what it is. Lastly, it’s worth noting that in the past Dr. Paul Clayton was pushing baker’s yeast (similar to Wellmune) the same way he’s pushing Wellmune now. It’s quite possible that baker’s yeast delivers 95% of the effectiveness of Wellmune for 1% of the cost. I’d like to see some research comparing the two… forward on what you have.

Read more about Inc. 500’s list, including a comment from Inc. Magazine here: http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-inc-magazines-500/. You might learn something about how Inc. comes up with 500 and the other companies that MonaVie was competing against (hint: no one has heard of them either).

Your trying to figure out the quality of it? But you already called it a scam?

Dude the point is it’s the internet you can find anything on here to disprove anything it’s very vast….

Just the point you are trying to disprove Monavie making the Inc.500 list just proves that to me.

You and your cronies you stop at nothing to bash this company and it’s credentials.

Fact is alot of the product questions will go unanswered and you will never truly know until you experience the product for yourself or if you personally know people who have tried it. Otherwise your just gonna rely on tests that will never tell the whole story.

Of course you can find an alternative for all of Monavie’s main ingredients. The thing is Monavie has been at the forefront of alot of these ingredients. They jumped on the Acai board before most, They jumped on the Reservtrol bandwagon before most and now they will do it with Beta-Glucans, Palintinose and the Maqui Berry.

I personally know that Monavie is a quality product so I will remain loyal to it.

Are there possible alternatives that are cheaper than Monavie? Of course but they don’t offer the opportunity to pay for the product and the truly rewarding business opportunity.

I know I am getting quality ingredients in every Monavie product with the glucosmaine, the plant sterols, the 80% juice in the Emv, the Beta-glucans in the M-mun…..Each product is very unique and they are a healthy beverage that I enjoy.

Paltinose is an artificial sweetener made from sucrose, using bacterial fermentation. The addition of fruits in EMV has no bearing on its quality.

The bottom line is, it is a caffeine and sugar based beverage. That’s where the so-called “energy” comes from. Artificial stimulants. You would have the same effect if you took a NoDoz pill.

I don’t recommend Red Bull. I don’t recommend Monster. I don’t recommend EMV. Poor nutrition for a high price.

Why is your EMV needed if regular MonaVie is providing you with energy, as you claim?

Rick, you’ve given me no reason to candy-coat this — you are either a blithering idiot and/or, for some reason (i.e. a profit motive), you have made it your mission to purposely derail this blog with misinformation and red herrings. There is no basis in fact for the things you are saying, and you are straying considerably off-topic, while conveniently avoiding the issues of real consequence; issues that have been supported with tangible, reliable evidence time and time again.

Rick said: “But keep hating. You say scam Monavie hits the Inc. 500 list 18th overall #1 food and beverage.”

I never used the word “scam”, but it certainly would be fair if I did. If you want to pretend that paying to be included on the Inc 500 list means something, then perhaps you should tell us the name of Inc’s overall #2 food and beverage company. You can’t because there wasn’t one — Monavie was the only company in this category. So you run a fixed race with no competitors and then brag about winning a trophy? That’s the kind of sleight of hand BS that comes back to bite you on the ass time and time again, much like the MORE Project and the tarnished reputations and faked credentials of many of your company’s key personnel. You use sound-alike titles like this (i.e., Inc’s rinky-dink “500 list” to conjure up images of the “Fortune 500” list) in attempt to cover up basic facts, like the nutritional inadequacy of your products, the dismal IDS, the nefarious background of Monavie’s key personnel, and the implications of the chronic violations of FDA regulations (i.e., U.S. law) that have been taking place.

Rick said: “I also find it funny that your (sic) are basing your opinion about Paul Clayton from (sic) someone who can easily make up his name and come to this site. How the hell do you really know if it was him?”

I bet you don’t find it funny at all. You should, and probably do, find it extremely distressing that these facts are now in the public domain, and you are attempting (feebly) to whitewash it because there is nothing else that can be done now that the cat’s out of the bag and Clayton’s endorsement of Monavie has become a liability and a black mark, instead of the boon it was planned (and paid for) to be.

It has already been pointed out repeatedly that it wouldn’t matter either way if this was or was not the “real” Clayton who posted here (such irony…you should have referred to him as the “real” FAKE Clayton). I based my research of his background mainly on what he had said at his Monavie presentation and what he had included on his own website, not the comments he left here. That you would ignore this fact again shows that your true goal is to deceive and distract people from the truth.

Rick said: “Even if it was him your boy Vogel got owned anyway.”

Hardly, after I conclusively exposed him as a fraud and a liar he ran away with pee in his boots. Y’know you aren’t going to change the fact that 2+2=4 simply because you say it’s 5. The truth is so bloody obvious. You just keep switching your arguments trying to find a foothold and you keep on falling deeper and deeper into the $hitter.

Rick said: “You [Food Tech] are disgruntled because all you do is complain about Monavie on this site and waste your time.”

A$$hole! It doesn’t matter if he’s disgruntled or uber-gruntled; what he’s saying about the ORAC score and polyphenol content of Monavie is still an obvious fact. Again, you are just skirting the issue and trying to redirect the discussion to something that’s utterly irrelevant. For the most part, I’m sure we (me, Food Tech, and many of the other reasonable participants who have helped expose Monavie on this site) all have things that we’d rather be doing than this. But as long as you guys are lying to Grandma about Monavie being a cancer cure and endangering the welfare of the public, we’ll continue to post here passionately until Monavie meets the same well-deserved fate as Royal Tongan Limu; i.e., shut down by the FDA, fined into oblivion, and loudly condemned. You only galvanize people against Monavie, so if you think that you are doing damage control, you’re wrong.

Rick (inarticulately) said: “Dude the point is it’s the internet you can find anything on here to disprove anything it’s very vast…”

Correction — WE find things on the Internet that clearly disprove the promotional claims made about your product and that demonstrate the ill repute of many of many of the company’s key operatives. YOU, on the other hand, have presented no evidence that either contests our facts or even remotely attests to the value of your product or the integrity of the immoral lying whores (like you) who sell it.

Rick said: “You and your cronies you (sic) stop at nothing to bash this company and it’s (sic) credentials.”

We are posting on a blog designed specifically for intelligent discussion of this topic. If you want to reframe this as “stopping at nothing”, then bear in mind that this is so only because you and your flock of greedy retarded cultists are lying to sick people and stealing their medicine money, and because we have seen more than enough evidence to know that your product is $hit and that the people who sell it are crooks and scumbags.

Your Black Diamond executive Jason Lyons put a F-ing RAPIST on stage dressed in surgical scrubs, pretending to be a cancer specialist, so that he could lie to people and convince them that Monavie can treat cancer. Rather than provide an apology for this and the many other atrocities committed, you all simply ignore it and carry on as though it never happened. For this, you all deserve more than the bankruptcy and public humiliation that awaits; you also deserve a good ass whupping.

I am an active healthy individual who runs, swims, and climbs. My belief is that as long as you eat healthy and are physically active then you are fine. I eat/drink a consistent amount of fruits, vegetable, meats, and juices. I mostly drink water, orange juice, milk, and grape juice. Nutritional juices like Monavie is only an excuse for someone to eat at burger king then take a shot of monavie and feel good about themselvs. The correct way to stay healthy is to eat/drink normal nutritional foods and juices while staying physically active. Its worked for thousands of years, why do we have to change it? you don’t gotta spend an extra $150 buck month to be healthy. Healthy living does not come in a 4 oz daily intake.. stop being lazy people!

You can all say what you want. All I know is that I had extreme nerve damage from having wisdom teeth removed. I was told by the dentist and surgeons that nothing would help me get the feeling back in my left side of my face. My smile drooped and I couldn’t feel my lips. It was hard to even drink without spilling all over myself. It was numb and this went on for month after month. Three days into drinking Monavie, I had all of the feeling back in my face. When I left my parents’ home where I was visiting and didn’t take their Monavie with me, a tingling sensation returned followed by more numbness. I immediately ordered Monavie and have been drinking it ever since. Now if I leave town for a few days and forget to take my juice I do feel a little something going on in my face, but have never against lost the feeling there. Monavie changed my life physically, emotionally, and also financially.

Believe what you want. I’ll be drinking this stuff for life. Not so hard to believe considering the juice pays for itself.

Heather – you are full of $hit. Period.

Heather, I’m certain we don’t need to point out that Monavie does not treat, cure, treat or mitigate the symptoms of any disease or condition and that you’re not only breaching company policy, but breaking the law.

There isn’t much people of the same calibre of liar and scammer such as Heather wouldn’t say or do in order to make a buck – if she’s lying to her family and friends, it’s of no surprise she’s lying on this site also.

Disgraceful.

Well now, this is something new. Apparently Monavie now repairs nerve damage, what next….

me – be careful – you’ll get raided by the FTC or FDA – MV does not cure anything – it is food.