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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-46709</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIBMR changes their links very often and they don&#039;t properly redirect them as they should.  

I suggest you do a search on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIBMR changes their links very often and they don&#8217;t properly redirect them as they should.  </p>
<p>I suggest you do a search on the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the AIBMR study done by Dr. Alex Schauss file? The link is broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the AIBMR study done by Dr. Alex Schauss file? The link is broken.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-46190</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

You can&#039;t get an accurate picture of MonaVie by just reading one article or one article and the comments.  There are dozens and dozens articles here that objectively show the harm that MonaVie is doing.

It&#039;s very odd that you say that MonaVie is the &quot;BEST&quot; in terms of product (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Men&#039;s Journal shows that Welch&#039;s is better&lt;/a&gt;), start-up cost (most MLMs now have no start-up costs, but instead charge extremely expensive autoships - MonaVie is one of the worst in this area), and pay structure (&lt;a href=&quot;http://media.monavie.com/pdf/corporate/income_disclosure_statement.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;99.64% of MonaVie distributors lose money&lt;/a&gt;).  There are few complaints about it because most people still believe that the payday is there and that it is their fault for not working hard enough.  Few realize that the compensation plan is designed to work against them.

Some of the people here have taken a &quot;holier-than-thou&quot; stance, but in my opinion it is justified.  Pretty much anyone here is holier than a &quot;rep beefing up their product with a tall tale of grandmas bum knee being miraculously healed&quot; - that&#039;s straight out fraud in an attempt to scam people.  There&#039;s one thing about exaggerating a point - there&#039;s another to breaking FTC and FDA laws, which is what happens with &quot;tall tales of grandma&#039;s bum knee.&quot;

Umm, perhaps you are the only one who lies to insurance companies.  They&#039;ll easily figure out that you lied on your form (they know what kind of car you drive and the features it has).  If you ever try to cash in on that insurance, you are going to be in trouble.  They&#039;ll just say that the contract is void and you have to pay the whole thing.  So, I hope no one here is lying to their insurance companies.

It&#039;s not just 99% it is 99.64% who actually make any money.  So imagine Fenway Park with 35,000 people in it.  Each one is just as willing to work their butt off to get OTHER people to pay their $140 to cover yours.  One 126 of those 35,000 people will be successful in making ANY money at all.  If you like those odds, perhaps you are the kind of person who thinks that lying to your insurance company is &quot;a good idea.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t get an accurate picture of MonaVie by just reading one article or one article and the comments.  There are dozens and dozens articles here that objectively show the harm that MonaVie is doing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very odd that you say that MonaVie is the &#8220;BEST&#8221; in terms of product (<a href="http://www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial" rel="nofollow">Men&#8217;s Journal shows that Welch&#8217;s is better</a>), start-up cost (most MLMs now have no start-up costs, but instead charge extremely expensive autoships &#8211; MonaVie is one of the worst in this area), and pay structure (<a href="http://media.monavie.com/pdf/corporate/income_disclosure_statement.pdf" rel="nofollow">99.64% of MonaVie distributors lose money</a>).  There are few complaints about it because most people still believe that the payday is there and that it is their fault for not working hard enough.  Few realize that the compensation plan is designed to work against them.</p>
<p>Some of the people here have taken a &#8220;holier-than-thou&#8221; stance, but in my opinion it is justified.  Pretty much anyone here is holier than a &#8220;rep beefing up their product with a tall tale of grandmas bum knee being miraculously healed&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s straight out fraud in an attempt to scam people.  There&#8217;s one thing about exaggerating a point &#8211; there&#8217;s another to breaking FTC and FDA laws, which is what happens with &#8220;tall tales of grandma&#8217;s bum knee.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm, perhaps you are the only one who lies to insurance companies.  They&#8217;ll easily figure out that you lied on your form (they know what kind of car you drive and the features it has).  If you ever try to cash in on that insurance, you are going to be in trouble.  They&#8217;ll just say that the contract is void and you have to pay the whole thing.  So, I hope no one here is lying to their insurance companies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just 99% it is 99.64% who actually make any money.  So imagine Fenway Park with 35,000 people in it.  Each one is just as willing to work their butt off to get OTHER people to pay their $140 to cover yours.  One 126 of those 35,000 people will be successful in making ANY money at all.  If you like those odds, perhaps you are the kind of person who thinks that lying to your insurance company is &#8220;a good idea.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-46189</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I just spent the past hour+ of my life reading this thread. And the reason I read it is because I am seriously considering joining Monavie. I&#039;m actually going to a &quot;tasting party&quot; tonight!! 

     I&#039;m 35 yrs old. I have done Amway in the past, and learned the hard way about MLM businesses. I know that I cannot go into the business, sit back, and wait for money to fall into my lap. I&#039;m going to have to SELL people on the business, and build my downlines. 

     I agree with BOTH sides in this thread. I appreciate MonavieScam for posting the downsides to the company. I have researched just about every MLM out there today, and Monavie keeps coming up the BEST as far as product vs. start-up cost vs. pay structure. And I can find VERY few complaints about it. The whole health thing is kind of douchey. I run a health club, and for every REAL cure to a health issue, there are 5000 bogus cures. And what&#039;s crazy about the health industry is that NEW information comes along every day. I remember when eggs were GREAT for you. Now theyre NOT great for you. Whatever.

     The reason I agree with Jake is that instead of posting this thread as an informative forum, SOME people are taking a &quot;holier-than-thou&quot; stance against the monavie reps. SO WHAT if a rep beefs up their product with a tall tale of grandmas bum knee being miracualously healed!!?? I say random things about my gym when selling a membership that may be exaggerated. EVERYONE does it. And if you say you&#039;ve NEVER lied about something to sway favor YOUR way....you are LYING right now. When you got insurance on your last car....did you answer YES to ALL the money saving questions even though you KNOW DARN WELL that your car doesn&#039;t have daytime running lights!!?? YES!! You did. Because you wanted to save/make money. So come down off your thrones people!!

     The whole thing about 99% of people NOT making money in the company. I WILL be a part of that percentage giving away my $140 per month UNLESS I get tin there and work my butt off to get OTHER people to pay their $140 to cover MINE. That&#039;s how MLM works. And if the person gets Monavie because he/she thinks it cures cancer....well, they are just silly.

     Anyways. My brain is fried from reading all these posts. So I&#039;m not sure if mine made any sense whatsoever. And I&#039;m not sure if I can find my way back here to see who responds to this, but yal have a wonderful life!!! It&#039;s beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I just spent the past hour+ of my life reading this thread. And the reason I read it is because I am seriously considering joining Monavie. I&#8217;m actually going to a &#8220;tasting party&#8221; tonight!! </p>
<p>     I&#8217;m 35 yrs old. I have done Amway in the past, and learned the hard way about MLM businesses. I know that I cannot go into the business, sit back, and wait for money to fall into my lap. I&#8217;m going to have to SELL people on the business, and build my downlines. </p>
<p>     I agree with BOTH sides in this thread. I appreciate MonavieScam for posting the downsides to the company. I have researched just about every MLM out there today, and Monavie keeps coming up the BEST as far as product vs. start-up cost vs. pay structure. And I can find VERY few complaints about it. The whole health thing is kind of douchey. I run a health club, and for every REAL cure to a health issue, there are 5000 bogus cures. And what&#8217;s crazy about the health industry is that NEW information comes along every day. I remember when eggs were GREAT for you. Now theyre NOT great for you. Whatever.</p>
<p>     The reason I agree with Jake is that instead of posting this thread as an informative forum, SOME people are taking a &#8220;holier-than-thou&#8221; stance against the monavie reps. SO WHAT if a rep beefs up their product with a tall tale of grandmas bum knee being miracualously healed!!?? I say random things about my gym when selling a membership that may be exaggerated. EVERYONE does it. And if you say you&#8217;ve NEVER lied about something to sway favor YOUR way&#8230;.you are LYING right now. When you got insurance on your last car&#8230;.did you answer YES to ALL the money saving questions even though you KNOW DARN WELL that your car doesn&#8217;t have daytime running lights!!?? YES!! You did. Because you wanted to save/make money. So come down off your thrones people!!</p>
<p>     The whole thing about 99% of people NOT making money in the company. I WILL be a part of that percentage giving away my $140 per month UNLESS I get tin there and work my butt off to get OTHER people to pay their $140 to cover MINE. That&#8217;s how MLM works. And if the person gets Monavie because he/she thinks it cures cancer&#8230;.well, they are just silly.</p>
<p>     Anyways. My brain is fried from reading all these posts. So I&#8217;m not sure if mine made any sense whatsoever. And I&#8217;m not sure if I can find my way back here to see who responds to this, but yal have a wonderful life!!! It&#8217;s beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-32662</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

By your two previous comments, you are basically affirming that MonaVie is lying, and that it&#039;s fine for MonaVie to lie? In that case... 

Hey! Jake bro! I&#039;m a Nigerian Prince but my throne has been stolen... Can you lend me some money to help me reclaim my throne? I will pay you back double once my rightful inheritance is passed down to me. Pretty please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,</p>
<p>By your two previous comments, you are basically affirming that MonaVie is lying, and that it&#8217;s fine for MonaVie to lie? In that case&#8230; </p>
<p>Hey! Jake bro! I&#8217;m a Nigerian Prince but my throne has been stolen&#8230; Can you lend me some money to help me reclaim my throne? I will pay you back double once my rightful inheritance is passed down to me. Pretty please?</p>
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		<title>By: be serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>be serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, everyone stop. just stop. Can we all just sit here as adults and be painfully honest. The stuff don&#039;t work. No human clinical trials. I have studied chemistry and microbiology. lots o&#039; fancy words but no real proof. I know two people yes TWO who bought into this scam when it first came out and drank this stuff like good suckers. One is my best friends dad from college just found out he has prostrate cancer, the other an older man at church just found out he has cancer also. You have to understand a lot of the compounds calmed to be in this stuff don&#039;t do what it says or make it past your gut. The true purpose of this stuff is for someone to make a LOT of money and it aint you. not you. Its ok, just walk away. Show me a human clinical trial with a control group monitored by real doctors and scientists. Sorry it dont exist. Have a dove bar. Good stuff,wont cure cancer but good honest stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, everyone stop. just stop. Can we all just sit here as adults and be painfully honest. The stuff don&#8217;t work. No human clinical trials. I have studied chemistry and microbiology. lots o&#8217; fancy words but no real proof. I know two people yes TWO who bought into this scam when it first came out and drank this stuff like good suckers. One is my best friends dad from college just found out he has prostrate cancer, the other an older man at church just found out he has cancer also. You have to understand a lot of the compounds calmed to be in this stuff don&#8217;t do what it says or make it past your gut. The true purpose of this stuff is for someone to make a LOT of money and it aint you. not you. Its ok, just walk away. Show me a human clinical trial with a control group monitored by real doctors and scientists. Sorry it dont exist. Have a dove bar. Good stuff,wont cure cancer but good honest stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-17263</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard not to feed the troll (Jake), but he&#039;s just making this site more popular in the search engines by keeping the conversation going.  

This website is about people getting scammed by juice.  That&#039;s the information I have at my disposal that the public needs to know.  I don&#039;t have information about cigarettes, banks, or insurance companies (other than what&#039;s already well known).  If you are going to talk about those, I&#039;m just going to hit the spam button and you won&#039;t be able to comment anymore.

I think Humiliated had it right.  There&#039;s a perception out there by people involved in MonaVie it is a good company with a good product.  If the company is purposely trying to swindle people as you claim, join us and help spread the word so everyone can boycott their products.  At least Toyota and BP don&#039;t purposely set out with lies and intentionally create poor products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard not to feed the troll (Jake), but he&#8217;s just making this site more popular in the search engines by keeping the conversation going.  </p>
<p>This website is about people getting scammed by juice.  That&#8217;s the information I have at my disposal that the public needs to know.  I don&#8217;t have information about cigarettes, banks, or insurance companies (other than what&#8217;s already well known).  If you are going to talk about those, I&#8217;m just going to hit the spam button and you won&#8217;t be able to comment anymore.</p>
<p>I think Humiliated had it right.  There&#8217;s a perception out there by people involved in MonaVie it is a good company with a good product.  If the company is purposely trying to swindle people as you claim, join us and help spread the word so everyone can boycott their products.  At least Toyota and BP don&#8217;t purposely set out with lies and intentionally create poor products.</p>
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		<title>By: Humiliated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humiliated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jake. Don&#039;t you see? We have ALREADY saved ourselves. Our salvation is in the TRUTH, something that clearly evades you. You need to read more of these blogs and get a true understanding about how companies like Monavie truly do harm to people, financially and physically, before you start opining on these matters. You will get ANNIHALATED here. Sic &#039;im Vogel. 

Bringing more awareness to Monavie and MLM companies that behave like this actually HELPS people by not losing their retirement savings or their kids college fund on a bogus product.  

You do understand that people only become involved with this because of &quot;Trust &amp; perceived honesty&quot;? Someone they trust takes them to a meeting and they believe what they are told because they &quot;trust&quot; the person that brought them in, who &quot;trusted&quot; the people that brought them in. Do you think ANYONE would go to a meeting if told by their loved one, &quot;hey, I have a GREAT business opportunity for you! There is very little hope that you will make ANY money, in fact you will most probably LOSE money. Oh, and in addition, enormously overpriced  product will provide very little nutritionally but you will be encouraged to tell people that it cures cancer, lupus etc. and people will go off of their mediacations and put their health at risk. We fully encourage these illegal tactics even though we will publicly deny that we do. We will take your money for our &quot;charity&quot; organization but we won&#039;t disclose publicly what is done with that money....do you like Brig&#039;s new yacht? So...how many cases do you want to sign up for?&quot;

Finally, Jake, this is not about the government, cigarette companies or insurance companies.  This is about taking PERSONAL  responsibilty to not involve my friends and family with something as despicable as Monavie. This is about letting an unsuspecting public know that they will lose money and alienate their friends and family, just the very few people at the top of the pyramid can get rich. These are things that I have DIRECT  control over and will do what I can to share this information. I do this because (I know this will sound foreign to you) I try to live my life with honesty and integrity. 

p.s. bringing religion and it&#039;s &quot;lying roots&quot; isn&#039;t helping your cause. What does one have to do with the other? Oh, sorry, except with Monavie, it has EVERYTHING to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jake. Don&#8217;t you see? We have ALREADY saved ourselves. Our salvation is in the TRUTH, something that clearly evades you. You need to read more of these blogs and get a true understanding about how companies like Monavie truly do harm to people, financially and physically, before you start opining on these matters. You will get ANNIHALATED here. Sic &#8216;im Vogel. </p>
<p>Bringing more awareness to Monavie and MLM companies that behave like this actually HELPS people by not losing their retirement savings or their kids college fund on a bogus product.  </p>
<p>You do understand that people only become involved with this because of &#8220;Trust &amp; perceived honesty&#8221;? Someone they trust takes them to a meeting and they believe what they are told because they &#8220;trust&#8221; the person that brought them in, who &#8220;trusted&#8221; the people that brought them in. Do you think ANYONE would go to a meeting if told by their loved one, &#8220;hey, I have a GREAT business opportunity for you! There is very little hope that you will make ANY money, in fact you will most probably LOSE money. Oh, and in addition, enormously overpriced  product will provide very little nutritionally but you will be encouraged to tell people that it cures cancer, lupus etc. and people will go off of their mediacations and put their health at risk. We fully encourage these illegal tactics even though we will publicly deny that we do. We will take your money for our &#8220;charity&#8221; organization but we won&#8217;t disclose publicly what is done with that money&#8230;.do you like Brig&#8217;s new yacht? So&#8230;how many cases do you want to sign up for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, Jake, this is not about the government, cigarette companies or insurance companies.  This is about taking PERSONAL  responsibilty to not involve my friends and family with something as despicable as Monavie. This is about letting an unsuspecting public know that they will lose money and alienate their friends and family, just the very few people at the top of the pyramid can get rich. These are things that I have DIRECT  control over and will do what I can to share this information. I do this because (I know this will sound foreign to you) I try to live my life with honesty and integrity. </p>
<p>p.s. bringing religion and it&#8217;s &#8220;lying roots&#8221; isn&#8217;t helping your cause. What does one have to do with the other? Oh, sorry, except with Monavie, it has EVERYTHING to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellraiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellraiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,
Personally, I am cutting my teeth - honing a skill - and I decided to start with lil&#039; ol monavie before I go after the big dogs, and you are certainly not in that league. You can&#039;t even hold your own here...  

Feel free to post rational, on topic discussion supported by citations/references that pertain to monavie and it&#039;s low ORAC score.  PLEASE prove us wrong if you are able, rather than try to distract from the argument with feeble nonsense like above.  

Not once on the entire site have I found evidence that anyone (connected to monavie or not) has been able to refute the logic, reason, and research done here on this site, on any topic on any thread.  There is a reason for that...facts and truth trump the crap that flows from monavie and its misled sales folk!

How off-topic can you get?  Grow up or go away you cretin internet troll!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,<br />
Personally, I am cutting my teeth &#8211; honing a skill &#8211; and I decided to start with lil&#8217; ol monavie before I go after the big dogs, and you are certainly not in that league. You can&#8217;t even hold your own here&#8230;  </p>
<p>Feel free to post rational, on topic discussion supported by citations/references that pertain to monavie and it&#8217;s low ORAC score.  PLEASE prove us wrong if you are able, rather than try to distract from the argument with feeble nonsense like above.  </p>
<p>Not once on the entire site have I found evidence that anyone (connected to monavie or not) has been able to refute the logic, reason, and research done here on this site, on any topic on any thread.  There is a reason for that&#8230;facts and truth trump the crap that flows from monavie and its misled sales folk!</p>
<p>How off-topic can you get?  Grow up or go away you cretin internet troll!</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/comment-page-2/#comment-17190</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plain and simple if you are so hard up to smash the un noble, the liars, the cheaters, scammers and other bullshi..ers in the world you should probably start with bigger headhunters such as insurance companies, ciggarette companies, banks, our very own government. and by the way. nobody ever has any proof that im not god. nor am i saying god does not exist but the beginning to our now catholic or even our christian religions were began off of lies and many are still followed. my point in my comment is dont you all think it would be a lil more worth your time and effort to bring down the beasts who are scamming you? dont you think you should focus on your own problems? before you try to save the world you must save yourself. and no im not a rep from monavie but hell why not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plain and simple if you are so hard up to smash the un noble, the liars, the cheaters, scammers and other bullshi..ers in the world you should probably start with bigger headhunters such as insurance companies, ciggarette companies, banks, our very own government. and by the way. nobody ever has any proof that im not god. nor am i saying god does not exist but the beginning to our now catholic or even our christian religions were began off of lies and many are still followed. my point in my comment is dont you all think it would be a lil more worth your time and effort to bring down the beasts who are scamming you? dont you think you should focus on your own problems? before you try to save the world you must save yourself. and no im not a rep from monavie but hell why not.</p>
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