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	<description>Is MonaVie a Scam?</description>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-is-the-next-napster/comment-page-1/#comment-46533</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, are you implying doctors can&#039;t be scammed?  Were their any doctors that were scammed by Madoff?  Or are you implying professionals in a given field can&#039;t be scammed?  There were pension funds and professional investors scammed by Madoff. Even smart people fall for scams.

The problem is, first, anyone can make a claim.  I could claim Obama and Rush Limbaugh play shuffleboard with me every Wednesday and drink Taitian Noni until we&#039;re giddy with Noni-goodness.  

Second, we don&#039;t know what type of doctor your claimed friend is...is he a Chiropractor, a Naturopath, a Homeopath, an MD, what are his credentials, etc.  If he is a legit doctor, and not a quack, I&#039;d suggest he come on here, give us his name, where he practices, why he drinks and/or recommends mona vie.  In all the years on this site and Lazyman, I can not recall a single legitimate doctor who is willing to put his reputation on the line defending the benefits of this product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, are you implying doctors can&#8217;t be scammed?  Were their any doctors that were scammed by Madoff?  Or are you implying professionals in a given field can&#8217;t be scammed?  There were pension funds and professional investors scammed by Madoff. Even smart people fall for scams.</p>
<p>The problem is, first, anyone can make a claim.  I could claim Obama and Rush Limbaugh play shuffleboard with me every Wednesday and drink Taitian Noni until we&#8217;re giddy with Noni-goodness.  </p>
<p>Second, we don&#8217;t know what type of doctor your claimed friend is&#8230;is he a Chiropractor, a Naturopath, a Homeopath, an MD, what are his credentials, etc.  If he is a legit doctor, and not a quack, I&#8217;d suggest he come on here, give us his name, where he practices, why he drinks and/or recommends mona vie.  In all the years on this site and Lazyman, I can not recall a single legitimate doctor who is willing to put his reputation on the line defending the benefits of this product.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-is-the-next-napster/comment-page-1/#comment-46529</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does being fat and smoking have to do with an MLM scam product?  I have seen &quot;fat smoker&quot; distributors so what exactly are you implying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does being fat and smoking have to do with an MLM scam product?  I have seen &#8220;fat smoker&#8221; distributors so what exactly are you implying?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Flanagan</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-is-the-next-napster/comment-page-1/#comment-46525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Flanagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy fat smokers that tell me it&#039;s a scam..or&#039; &quot;im good&quot;...yeah, right!...my golf partner, a 68 yr.old doctor buys it from me, and drinks it daily...must be a scam!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy fat smokers that tell me it&#8217;s a scam..or&#8217; &#8220;im good&#8221;&#8230;yeah, right!&#8230;my golf partner, a 68 yr.old doctor buys it from me, and drinks it daily&#8230;must be a scam!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-is-the-next-napster/comment-page-1/#comment-46463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I see I missed much in my short absence.  So now we have the same &quot;tone&quot; as a right wing terrorist.  I&#039;ve seen a lot a ridiculous claims from MLM peddlers but comparing angry MLM critics to terrorists takes the cake.  

Just because we are angry at Yosef&#039;s support for MLM scammers (I know not all MLM&#039;s are scams, but in all honesty I think they are all a stupid way to try and make money) we are now evil, nigh on mudering, people.  

Yosef, your little holier than thou, pompous jerk attitude is asinine.  You are not fooling anyone here with your insipid little fake display of goodwill.  

&quot;Eat fresh fruits and vegetables, drink more clean water!&quot; 

So why argue about stupid MLM juice in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I see I missed much in my short absence.  So now we have the same &#8220;tone&#8221; as a right wing terrorist.  I&#8217;ve seen a lot a ridiculous claims from MLM peddlers but comparing angry MLM critics to terrorists takes the cake.  </p>
<p>Just because we are angry at Yosef&#8217;s support for MLM scammers (I know not all MLM&#8217;s are scams, but in all honesty I think they are all a stupid way to try and make money) we are now evil, nigh on mudering, people.  </p>
<p>Yosef, your little holier than thou, pompous jerk attitude is asinine.  You are not fooling anyone here with your insipid little fake display of goodwill.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Eat fresh fruits and vegetables, drink more clean water!&#8221; </p>
<p>So why argue about stupid MLM juice in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yosef,

If anger is like fire then we can agree than when directed appropriately it is a tool.  We&#039;ve seen this in stove tops, blow torches, even the combustible engine.  There&#039;s a reason why fire is the most important thing to get on the episode of Survivor.

If you are a victim of such law breaking practices, it is reasonable to be angry at those who victimize you.  In fact, it&#039;s a typical emotion present in many, perhaps all mammals.  Don&#039;t believe me?  Try teasing a hungry, uncared for pit bull.  You&#039;ll quickly get a lesson in anger.

There are no real threats of violence on this site which is where your analogy goes way off the deep end.  Well there was one - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-distributor-glenn-siesser-threatens-to-kill-me/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MonaVie Distributor Glenn Siesser who Threatened to Kill Me&lt;/a&gt;.  

The lesson here is that you can&#039;t generalize fire and anger to be bad.

You also can&#039;t suggest that the anger here is similar to that anger and then say, &quot;If you feel deeply about that then it just might be time for you to look inside.&quot;  If you compare people to mass murders they are probably to going to have deep feelings about that.  That goes for any and everyone.  It doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s time to look inside.  It means that you are so far off the mark that it doesn&#039;t make any sense.

Since you seem to want to directly answer questions, why don&#039;t you focus on this article and the points made in it comparing MonaVie and Napster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yosef,</p>
<p>If anger is like fire then we can agree than when directed appropriately it is a tool.  We&#8217;ve seen this in stove tops, blow torches, even the combustible engine.  There&#8217;s a reason why fire is the most important thing to get on the episode of Survivor.</p>
<p>If you are a victim of such law breaking practices, it is reasonable to be angry at those who victimize you.  In fact, it&#8217;s a typical emotion present in many, perhaps all mammals.  Don&#8217;t believe me?  Try teasing a hungry, uncared for pit bull.  You&#8217;ll quickly get a lesson in anger.</p>
<p>There are no real threats of violence on this site which is where your analogy goes way off the deep end.  Well there was one &#8211; <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-distributor-glenn-siesser-threatens-to-kill-me/" rel="nofollow">MonaVie Distributor Glenn Siesser who Threatened to Kill Me</a>.  </p>
<p>The lesson here is that you can&#8217;t generalize fire and anger to be bad.</p>
<p>You also can&#8217;t suggest that the anger here is similar to that anger and then say, &#8220;If you feel deeply about that then it just might be time for you to look inside.&#8221;  If you compare people to mass murders they are probably to going to have deep feelings about that.  That goes for any and everyone.  It doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s time to look inside.  It means that you are so far off the mark that it doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>Since you seem to want to directly answer questions, why don&#8217;t you focus on this article and the points made in it comparing MonaVie and Napster?</p>
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		<title>By: humiliated</title>
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		<dc:creator>humiliated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yosef. Please stop talking in circles. You made an entirely inappropriate comment and you refuse to back away from it. ANY reference to the recent tragedy in this context is revolting and you need to  (yet refuse to) atone for this. 

Yes, there are certain things that I get angry about, I will admit it. If we didn&#039;t get angry and stand up for what we believe in (in a non-violent way) social justice would never be served. I believe that commercial cults like USANA and MONAVIE are destroying people&#039;s lives and I will fight to help end them. We all have to believe in something, right? You believe in ripping innocent people off, I think you need to look inside and see what compels you to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yosef. Please stop talking in circles. You made an entirely inappropriate comment and you refuse to back away from it. ANY reference to the recent tragedy in this context is revolting and you need to  (yet refuse to) atone for this. </p>
<p>Yes, there are certain things that I get angry about, I will admit it. If we didn&#8217;t get angry and stand up for what we believe in (in a non-violent way) social justice would never be served. I believe that commercial cults like USANA and MONAVIE are destroying people&#8217;s lives and I will fight to help end them. We all have to believe in something, right? You believe in ripping innocent people off, I think you need to look inside and see what compels you to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosef Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosef Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anger is like fire, a little does a little damage, a lot does more and so on...

I of course did not liken anyone to mass murderers, but the anger that is readily displayed here is similar, in my opinion, in tone, to that of a recent mass murderers&#039; tone. If you feel deeply about that then it just might be time for you to look inside.

Eat fresh fruits and vegetables, drink more clean water!

Always,
Yosef

ps - My apologies to the sysop for posting again, I am trying to lay off but if it is direct and not true I feel I should answer it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anger is like fire, a little does a little damage, a lot does more and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>I of course did not liken anyone to mass murderers, but the anger that is readily displayed here is similar, in my opinion, in tone, to that of a recent mass murderers&#8217; tone. If you feel deeply about that then it just might be time for you to look inside.</p>
<p>Eat fresh fruits and vegetables, drink more clean water!</p>
<p>Always,<br />
Yosef</p>
<p>ps &#8211; My apologies to the sysop for posting again, I am trying to lay off but if it is direct and not true I feel I should answer it.</p>
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		<title>By: humiliated</title>
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		<dc:creator>humiliated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t like giving this pathetic,  MLM pusher any more of our energy, ON or OFF topic (BTW, you don&#039;t come on here, insult the hell out of people, minimize a tragedy, then call it &quot;talking off topic&quot;, you sick bastard) but I must say, the ONE thing that you ought to have done Yosef,  is apologize for your disturbing remarks. The fact that you think that this is an appropriate way to argue this issue, really does make me wonder if you aren&#039;t due for your (what I am sure is an annual) psychological assessment. 

Vogel, Juice Scam and the rest of us are very passionate about protecting the public from people like you, and your industry.  We have seen people come on here with a passion matching ours in defence of the magic &quot;juice&quot; or the magic &quot;vitamin supplement&quot; industry. It has NEVER, not ONCE occured to myself or anyone blogging on this to liken these people 
to mass murderers. It is people like you that actually make me want to fight harder against your kind &amp; these scams.

You are a sick, sick man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t like giving this pathetic,  MLM pusher any more of our energy, ON or OFF topic (BTW, you don&#8217;t come on here, insult the hell out of people, minimize a tragedy, then call it &#8220;talking off topic&#8221;, you sick bastard) but I must say, the ONE thing that you ought to have done Yosef,  is apologize for your disturbing remarks. The fact that you think that this is an appropriate way to argue this issue, really does make me wonder if you aren&#8217;t due for your (what I am sure is an annual) psychological assessment. </p>
<p>Vogel, Juice Scam and the rest of us are very passionate about protecting the public from people like you, and your industry.  We have seen people come on here with a passion matching ours in defence of the magic &#8220;juice&#8221; or the magic &#8220;vitamin supplement&#8221; industry. It has NEVER, not ONCE occured to myself or anyone blogging on this to liken these people<br />
to mass murderers. It is people like you that actually make me want to fight harder against your kind &amp; these scams.</p>
<p>You are a sick, sick man.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yosef,

I think you should stop commenting while you are behind.  MonaVie distributors have threatened my life... that&#039;s why I, and others, remain anonymous.  Given all the information about MonaVie on this website, you have to have some kind of mental imbalance to get involved with the company.  I would be much more worried about those people being mass murderers than a bunch of people who are volunteering their time and energy to educating the public and protect them from getting scammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yosef,</p>
<p>I think you should stop commenting while you are behind.  MonaVie distributors have threatened my life&#8230; that&#8217;s why I, and others, remain anonymous.  Given all the information about MonaVie on this website, you have to have some kind of mental imbalance to get involved with the company.  I would be much more worried about those people being mass murderers than a bunch of people who are volunteering their time and energy to educating the public and protect them from getting scammed.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Yosef, when you liken the comments here about a fraudulent fruit juice company with the actions of a Nordic white supremacist mass murderer, you show yourself to be a an utter moron and an insensitive jackass. 

Take one of those vegetables and ram it where the sun don&#039;t shine. Have a nice day and God bless :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Yosef, when you liken the comments here about a fraudulent fruit juice company with the actions of a Nordic white supremacist mass murderer, you show yourself to be a an utter moron and an insensitive jackass. </p>
<p>Take one of those vegetables and ram it where the sun don&#8217;t shine. Have a nice day and God bless :)</p>
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