MonaVie is Embarrassed by Their Income Disclosure Statement?

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The Fraud Files found that MonaVie has been editing their own Wikipedia page. As Fraud Files points out that’s a conflict of interest. However, the really interesting information is how MonaVie is editing the information about their company.

This edit removed the company’s Income Disclosure Statement. What possible reason would they have to remove information on WikiPedia that they publish on their own site? Is it so damning that MonaVie would go against Wikipedia policy to delete it. That’s the only logical explanation. This is especially true since 99% of MonaVie distributors earn an average of $3.75 a WEEK back in 2008 (it hasn’t changed significantly since then). It’s worth keeping in mind that those drinking the juice pay $30 a week in juice to earn that $3.75. Sounds like a good deal.

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159 Responses to “MonaVie is Embarrassed by Their Income Disclosure Statement?”
  1. Kevin Says:

    I’ve been reading quite a few of your posts. Although you appear to be semi-educated on a lot of topics, you appear to be a little uneducated on others. I don’t have to point out the obvious for you, I’m sure you’ll clue in.

    I’m going to guess that you’ve been scorned somewhere in your past in relation to Mona Vie. Your “About Me/Us” section doesn’t do anything to validate your expertise on any level. Surprising? Not at all.

    Mona Vie Active is the only thing I’ve found since my teenage years that has cured my Migraines. I have medically prescribed medicines to not only regulate but fight Migraines when they do occur. I’ve average one a week since my teens. The Doctors have only given me medications that haven’t fixed the problem, only space me out when I do have a problem. Since starting the juice three months ago, not one Migraine and I’ve not taken one pill. That’s proof enough for me.

    It would be nice to see you take the energy you waste here and put it towards something a bit more positive. I’m sure you have something better to do with your day(s), instead of stirring the pot on topics you tend to taint here on your site.

    Good luck to you, either way.

  2. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Kevin said,

    “Although you appear to be semi-educated on a lot of topics, you appear to be a little uneducated on others. I don’t have to point out the obvious for you, I’m sure you’ll clue in.”

    That’s one of the more interesting insults I’ve read. It is a great way to call someone uneducated without any kind of evidence at all. Your only argument to my lack of education on some topics is, essentially “it is obvious and if you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you.” I could have really saved a lot of time on this website by using the same logic… “MonaVie is scamming you, but I don’t have to point out the obvious for you, I’m sure you’ll clue in.” Wow, that was amazingly easy. Thanks!

    Kevin said,

    “I’m going to guess that you’ve been scorned somewhere in your past in relation to Mona Vie. Your “About Me/Us” section doesn’t do anything to validate your expertise on any level. Surprising? Not at all.”

    Since you asked, here is the full story. The short version is that I was just trying to find out more information about MonaVie and they decided to threaten me with multiple unjustifable lawsuits. I have a whole website of more than 75 posts here that validates my experience on all levels.

    Kevin said,

    “Mona Vie Active is the only thing I’ve found since my teenage years that has cured my Migraines. I have medically prescribed medicines to not only regulate but fight Migraines when they do occur. I’ve average one a week since my teens. The Doctors have only given me medications that haven’t fixed the problem, only space me out when I do have a problem. Since starting the juice three months ago, not one Migraine and I’ve not taken one pill. That’s proof enough for me.”

    You realize that MonaVie Active is not approved to treat, cure, or prevent anything related to migranes, right? Since you are anonymous, we don’t know if you are a distributor. However, it would be illegal for a disributor to make a claim such as you did. See the FTC’s rules here.

    If MonaVie could really help with migraines, it conduct clinical trials to be approved by the FDA to make such a claim. There are no indications that such trials are underway.

    Furthermore, I tried MonaVie and it gave me, my friends, and my whole family migraines. Can you prove it did not? The point here is that anonymous testimony means nothing.

    Kevin said,

    “It would be nice to see you take the energy you waste here and put it towards something a bit more positive. I’m sure you have something better to do with your day(s), instead of stirring the pot on topics you tend to taint here on your site.”

    My energy is not wasted here. I get all kinds of emails thanking me for the information that I provide. I have others (see “Humiliated”) who comments about how such a website would have saved her years of time and piles of money.

    The better question is why you don’t have anything more positive to do with your time and energy than promote $40 juice? Oh, perhaps you are a distributor and get a cut of that money.

  3. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Kevin, I would offer another theory on your migraines. Migraines are often triggered by certain ingredients found in various diets.

    I could speculate that since you started drinking MonaVie, you can no longer afford to eat out. Therefore, whatever you were eating that triggered your migraines, has now been eliminated.

    This makes a lot more sense than a fruit punch making any difference, whatsoever, in your physical well-being.

  4. Kevin Says:

    Cute responses. MonaVie Scam, presented statements with no education behind them. If you read through your statement you’ll find that you’re incorrect on your facts. I didn’t expect you to be 100% truthful.

    Food Tech. Thank you for your response as well. Oddly enough, over the last three months I’ve done nothing but eat out. We had a kitchen fire in May, and only recently had a full kitchen to prepare/cook/serve for in.

    Thank you though for pointing out that even Idiots (your example) can have opinions.

  5. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Kevin,

    What do you mean no education behind them? I presented very logical responses to your straw man arguments. You did not present any educated arguments.

    What wasn’t 100% truthful about? What are the incorrect facts? Why don’t you just cite them than pretend they are there when they are not. This is similar to the “I don’t have to point out the obvious for you” argument you used before, where you just assume that there is bad logic, yet you can’t seem to back that assumption up.

    Perhaps not having the stress of having to prepare dinner helped your migraines. The point here is that any number of things could have happened… including the fact you are lying. We have no way of determining the accuracy and truthfulness of your post.

    It’s easy to have opinions, but most of the important information on this website is fact, not opinion. We take a fact, such as “MonaVie removing the link of its income disclosure statement from Wikipedia” and come up with an educated explanation about why they would want to prevent people from seeing it. I haven’t seen anyone come up with an alternative plausible explanation… and I’ve asked numerous times.

  6. Vogel Says:

    If there is anything to give me comfort that Monavie’s days are numbered, it is witnessing the behavior of people like Kevin; mouth-breathing dullards, utterly oblivious to the elephant in the room. How can the company not implode?

  7. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Kevin writes: “Thank you though for pointing out that even Idiots (your example) can have opinions.”

    **And which one of us believes a fruit punch has some sort of magical curative powers? Maybe, it’s better to be an idiot than a fool.

  8. Kevin Says:

    The fastest growing company in Networking Marketing, closing in on 3 billion in sales in five years of business, 18 on the INC 500 and you think the company is going to fail?

    I live in the corporate world, as I’m a Sales Director for a billion dollar manufacturer. I understand what keeps a company afloat and what causes a company to sink. Mona Vie is a very healthy company. They are now set to turn the diet industry on it’s arse, with the release of their new weight management drinks in October.

    I’m sorry you all missed the boat on something so wonderful.

    As for the cure, that you mention. Did I ever say it cured anything? I stated that I’ve not had a Migraine in 13 weeks of consuming the juice.

    To Mona Vie Scam – a Distributor can talk about anything personal that they feel the juice has done for them. There is nothing legally wrong with that. So if one person feels it helped them with arthritis, great. Another, high blood pressure, again great. Fribomyalgia, Lupus, Migraines, Cholesterol, the list goes on and on. Get over it – it’s here to stay.

    By the way, you might do a little more investigating and find out what’s really going on. Ask about the FDA and Mona Vie Pulse. You’ll be shocked at what you find.

    I love what Mona Vie has done for me. It’s made my life 100% better from a health perspective. I love sharing this with others! I’ve made great friends and believe it or not, just by sharing this opportunity I am making more than my juice costs me each month. SHOCKER?

    I make 200k a year in the corporate world, so it’s not like I need the income from Mona Vie to survive. However, I wouldn’t change a thing. Like I said before, I love my life and I love having Mona Vie in it.

    Keep playing the role of a cynic(s), life must truly stink for all of you!

  9. Vogel Says:

    Kevin said: “The fastest growing company in Networking Marketing, closing in on 3 billion in sales in five years of business, 18 on the INC 500 and you think the company is going to fail?”

    But when I look at Forbe’s list of the top 250 privately-owned companies in the U.S., I don’t see Monavie’s name anywhere.
    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/21/private-companies-09_Americas-Largest-Private-Companies_Rank.html

    And according to Direct Selling News, Monavie is only the 17th largest among MLMs.
    http://www.directsellingnews.com/index.php/site/entries_archive_display/global_100_the_top_direct_selling_companies_in_the_world

    This makes your inclusion on the Inc list rather meaningless, particularly since Monavie was allowed to submit their earnings claims without external verification. It’s not prudent to pin the legitimacy of your company on such a thin premise as unverified growth claims, particularly when Monavie doesn’t rank among the 250 privately-owned companies or even among the top 15 MLMs. You lose on both counts.

    And yes, I am fully convinced that Monavie will ultimately fail. In fact, I believe that it is failing already and will implode soon. Couldn’t happen to a more-deserving bunch of people than the Monavie cartel.

    Kevin said: “I live in the corporate world, as I’m a Sales Director for a billion dollar manufacturer. I understand what keeps a company afloat and what causes a company to sink. Mona Vie is a very healthy company.”

    Based on the lack of insight you’ve demonstrated here, I would have bet that you live out of the backseat of an old beat-up car rather than in the ‘corporate world’ as you claimed. If you understood anything thing about being a sales director for a billion dollar company (a laughably dubious claim in your case), it’s that you need reliable sales and revenue data before you can make a judgment about fiscal health. With Monavie, you don’t have access to such data so you’re flying on blind faith alone; hardly the modus operandi of a savvy sales director. Quite consistent with the kindergarten-level business acumen of a Monavie distributor though.

    Kevin said: “They are now set to turn the diet industry on it’s arse, with the release of their new weight management drinks in October.”

    Dallin Larsen already tried the ‘diet industry’ in 2003 when he started Monarch Health Sciences with his brother Randy (right after Dallin ran Royal Tongan Limu and Dynamic Essentials into the ground — shut down by FDA, fined by FTC/DOJ, millions of dollars lost). Dallin’s failure in that endeavor was so spectacular that, by his own admission, he was worried that he wouldn’t be able to feed his family; that was after he burned through $2 million of investor funds. In Dallin’s own words:

    “In 2003, I teamed up with my brother Randy and Henry Marsh, a four-time Olympian, to start a weight-loss company called Monarch Health Sciences. We raised nearly $2 million from angel investors, but we rapidly went through the money. I like to joke that since I’m short and fat, it didn’t work. Our program required big lifestyle changes, which people generally don’t make. We were close to going out of business. My wife and I had eight kids to raise. I took out a second mortgage, because we weren’t taking any money out of the company.”
    http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090901/how-i-did-it-dallin-a-larsen-of-monavie.html

    Kevin said: “I’m sorry you all missed the boat on something so wonderful.”

    That’s because you’re an idiot with nothing but a hammer in your arsenal, so naturally everything looks like a nail. Someone has to take on the responsibility of being a doctor, judge, scientist, inventor, engineer, etc., so the last thing you should do is lament that not everyone on this planet is a Monavie distributor (what a colossal douchebag of a thing to say!).

    “As for the cure, that you mention. Did I ever say it cured anything? I stated that I’ve not had a Migraine in 13 weeks of consuming the juice.”

    Are you so F-ing stupid that you are going to try to use that as your defense? You aren’t even allowed to remotely suggest that Monavie had anything to do with your migraines going away. You should know that. The FDA and FTC rules have (or should have been) made clear to you in your distributor training. So who deserves the blame for your lack of compliance with said regulations? Did Monavie fail to train you or did you just ignore the warnings? If you feel smug enough to test the FDA and FTC, why don’t you write-up a letter to your customers with your migraine claims, distributor ID#, and an explanation of why you feel the law doesn’t apply to you. We’ll forward your letter to the FDA and FTC and you will soon see how well it pans out.

    Kevin said: “To Mona Vie Scam – a Distributor can talk about anything personal that they feel the juice has done for them. There is nothing legally wrong with that. So if one person feels it helped them with arthritis, great. Another, high blood pressure, again great. Fribomyalgia, Lupus, Migraines, Cholesterol, the list goes on and on. Get over it – it’s here to stay.”

    No they CANNOT do this! In fact they are expressly forbidden from doing so. Who bears the blame for your astonishing ignorance and blatant defiance of U.S. law? Are you prepared to put your name and whatever crumb of a reputation you may have on the line to defend this claim?

    Kevin said: “By the way, you might do a little more investigating and find out what’s really going on. Ask about the FDA and Mona Vie Pulse. You’ll be shocked at what you find.”

    The only thing shocking is that F-tards like you are taking an old generic structure-function claim about plant sterols and pretending that it means that Pulse has “FDA approval”. It doesn’t, and there is nothing remarkable about Pulse other than its insane price and astonishing lack of nutritional value. Monavie’s Pulse FAQs even confirm this:

    “MonaVie products (including Pulse) are not intended to replace or mimic the activity, effects, or benefits of drugs or medications. Do not substitute or replace your medication(s) with MonaVie Pulse. The plant sterol activity, effects, and benefits in MonaVie Pulse as it relates to heart health and cholesterol are significantly less than that found in drugs…MonaVie Pulse does not cure heart disease. MonaVie Pulse does not cure, treat, mitigate, or prevent serious cholesterol problems. MonaVie Pulse is intended for healthy people, not for people with heart or cholesterol diseases.”
    http://www.the-team.biz/files/Approved%20Claims%20Pulse.pdf
    http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Consumer-Trends/Coca-Cola-launches-heart-healthy-juice

    Kevin said: “I make 200k a year in the corporate world, so it’s not like I need the income from Mona Vie to survive.”

    You laughable F-ing lying clown! Send your 2009 IRS docs to Lazyman to verify your BS claim and I’ll eat my computer. And even though I couldn’t think much less of you than I do already, you would merit even more contempt if it turned out that you didn’t really need the money from Monavie and were victimizing people and breaking the law merely to add to a $200,000 annual salary. Sounds like you took that hackneyed MLM mantra “fake it until you make it” a bit too seriously.

  10. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Kevin writes: “To Mona Vie Scam – a Distributor can talk about anything personal that they feel the juice has done for them. There is nothing legally wrong with that. So if one person feels it helped them with arthritis, great. Another, high blood pressure, again great. Fribomyalgia, Lupus, Migraines, Cholesterol, the list goes on and on.”

    **A sales director, yet you don’t have any knowledge of federal law?

    As a distributor, you are a contractor of MonaVie. Therefore, you are obligated to follow the law, as if you worked in the corporate office. And the law is quite clear. You are not allowed to claim (lie) that MonaVie treats, or cures any affliction, whatsoever. Period.

    You claimed (lied) that it helped your migraines. You are a distributor. You broke the law. Period.

  11. Kevin Says:

    Food Tech – your momma didn’t call you Son cause you were bright, did she?

    Drinking the juice has caused my Migraines to go away. Doctor prescribed medication has not.

    I broke the law? You’re sadly mistaken…

    Come back at me when you’re moronic opinion has some validity to it.

  12. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    Kevin states “Drinking the juice has caused my Migraines to go away. Doctor prescribed medication has not.

    I broke the law? You’re sadly mistaken…”

    Ahh…..another ill-informed and ignorant Monav-idiot.

    We draw Monavie’s own Policies and Procedures to your complete lack of attention which states:

    2.1.6.I will be truthful in my representation of MonaVie Products and make no claims regarding the health benefits of MonaVie Products that violate the law.
    2.1.15.I will abide by all of MonaVie’s Policies and Procedures.
    2.3.8.Unethical Activity.You agree to be ethical and professional at all times when conducting your MonaVie Distributorship.

    Examples of unethical activities include, but are not limited to the following, some of which are further described in these P&Ps:

    2.3.8.1.Making unapproved claims about the Product;

    4.1.3.1 You shall not use misleading, deceptive or unfair sales practices when promoting the Product and/or MonaVie opportunity.
    https://www.monavievo.com/corporate/documents/P&Ps_Global%20Version_US020810_0.pdf

    If you were to actually pay attention to Monavie’s own website, you will see that distributors are NOT allowed to make unauthorised claims which use terms or phrases that suggest the product can prevent, mitigate, diagnose, treat or cure a disease. And nor is Monavie FDA approved.
    http://monavieuniversity.zaah.net/?s=fruit+juice+products
    http://www.monavie.com/Web/US/en/faq.dhtml

    I again refer you to the Monavie website which provides 5 tips which every distributor should know concerning the FTC guidelines and which states –

    “…MonaVie distributors who provide testimonials online AND offline must be truthful AND be subject to typical results. If you are a distributor and want to share your story or testimonial anywhere, first ask yourself if the results can be typical? Thus testimonials about MonaVie products or money making opportunities must conform to MonaVie approved statements…The advertiser must have adequate substantiation for any experience described by the endorser, i.e- typical results. Gone are the days of simply posting “results may vary”…any such opinion posted online or said offline would be in violation of the current guidelines, unless there is valid research to support the claim.”
    monaviemediacenter.com/blogs/5-tips-every-monavie-distributor-needs-to-know-about-the-new-ftc-guidelines/

    The statement you made concerning Monavie curing your migraines is clearly not only in breach of company policy but also against the law.

    Your claims are entirely unsupported and unfounded – NO studies have ever been undertaken to support such claims and no studies have ever been undertake to show that there are any benefits associated with drinking this highly processed fruit juice. Period.

    Kevin – your momma should be so proud.

    Monavie Scam – is this moron Kevin Quinn? The same lying fraudster who posted on PH and who despite having only achieved Star ranking (and thus is in all likelihood losing money) is still prepared to stoop to intentionally misleading consumers using illegal and health fraudulent claims and luring his family and friends into this farcical venture where 99.64% of the entire sales force are losing money?!
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:adt2NCtLJHYJ:monaviemediacenter.com/page/3%3Fs%3Dmalaysia%2B+kevin+quinn+monavie&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

    What a tool.

  13. Food Tech in CA Says:

    My advice to you, son, is to do a little research before commenting. Your migraines went away because you are no longer using your brain.

    If you believe that it is legal for a MonaVie distributor to claim a simple fruit juice helped treat migraines, then I recommend you read what distributors are allowed to say on MonaVie’s Black Diamond University website.

    If you still have trouble comprehending the law, I will be glad to direct you to the FDA’s interpretation.

    Sales director, indeed.

  14. Kevin Says:

    What’s your background Food Tech? McDonald’s Manager? Obviously it’s not law. Stick to what you’re good at; SUPER SIZING combo meals.

  15. Food Tech in CA Says:

    The typical ending comments of a MonaVie distributor. Kevin seems more uninformed than most of the distributors that have stuck their heads out of the hole. He ends up talking about McDonalds. Sad, indeed.

    He claims to make $200,000 in the corporate world, yet he needs to supplement his income with a pyramid scheme, selling fruit punch to gullible suckers.

    I believe his momma spanked him everytime he told the truth.

    If you have any facts to discuss, please present them. Please, no unverifiable, anecdotes about your migraines. Show me one study that backs any of your nonsense.

  16. Kevin Says:

    Dear Mr. McDonald’s Manager,

    Study? It’s my own personal study. You see, that’s what I’ve been talking about. What it’s done for me personally. I haven’t mentioned anyone else’s story at all, and I’ve heard a lot of them personally. Have you not been paying attention?

    I started drinking the juice as a customer about 13 weeks ago. About 3 weeks in, I chose to become a Distributor. Why? I felt there were a lot of people out there who could benefit from what Mona Vie has to offer. Whether that’s the benefits to your health or the benefits to the pocketbook. There are a lot of people out there, looking for something. They/we never claim(ed) this would be for everyone. There’s always the skeptics. Take you for example.

    I didn’t feel you were the sharpest crayon in the box early on. You’ve definitely done a great job of solidifying that opinion.

    Remember what I said, I’m not doing this for the money – even though I’m making money at it. I enjoy the friends that I’ve made, the lives I’m helping to change and life in general. You might give it a try sometime. You’re not getting out of life alive – might as well enjoy every waking moment you have in it.

    By the way, 200k a year isn’t a lot of money. I’m the middle class citizen that helps keep this country afloat. Try reading Rich Dad Poor Dad, you’ll see that I’m not boastful about my income. I’m clearly stating that I’m not in Mona Vie to pay my bills.

  17. Kevin Says:

    Hey there, Super Size. You wanted studies. I’m sorry, I forgot to post one of several that I know about done by major Universities in the US.

    Leukemia. Heard of it? Acai Berry. Heard of it? You might want to look into this: http://mlmblog.typepad.com/monavie/2006/02/brazilian_berry.html

    If you need more, let me know. By the way, I have that University of Florida Leukemia study in a hard copy version if you’d like me to email it to you.

    Texas A&M. You might want to check into their latest study on the Acai Berry compound and what they claim it’s doing to help repair DNA.

    If you’re unable to find that, let me know. I’ll make sure you get a copy.

    You realize that my Migraines going away are minuscule in comparison to the studies above? You can only be cup is half empty for so long, before cup is half full proves you wrong.

    Fruit juice… well, of course it is!

  18. Vogel Says:

    He asked for studies that support your claim about Monavie curing your migraines. A study on the effects of acai on isolated leukemic cells in a petri dish is in no way relevant to the effects of Monavie on migraines, unless perhaps you are suggesting that your migraines were being caused by leukemia (one can only hope).

    Simple request…post your name and distributor ID# as required by your contract. Of course you won’t know because you’ve broken the law and stepped in $hit too many times already. Your seething contempt for logic, commonsense, and civility aren’t doing your cause any favors. Just another example of the evil, greasy pock-marked face of Monavie.

  19. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Kevin writes: “Leukemia. Heard of it? Acai Berry. Heard of it? You might want to look into this: http://mlmblog.typepad.com/monavie/2006/02/brazilian_berry.html

    **You are a newbie, aren’t you? We’ve gone over this countless times.

    Let’s just get rid of the acai nonsense right off the top. For people like Kevin that are too lazy to do research on their own, here’s what we know about MonaVie and acai:

    Dr. Schauss points out often that the ORAC value of the processed, freeze-dried acai powder is 1,027 umoles/gm.

    Dr. Schauss reports that the ORAC value of MonaVie Active is 22.81 umoles/ml.

    This is a decrease of 1,004.19 umoles (Kevin, have your son do the math for you)

    The ORAC value is the standard that Dr. Schauss and others use to measure the potency of the acai.

    So, from this little exercise, we easily determine that very little acai ever made it into the final product.

    Want to compare MonaVie against other, common store shelf juices? Read this study by the Center for Human Nutrition, David Geffen School of Medicine, UCLA (Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2008, 56, 1415-1422)

    Here are some listed ORAC values:
    Pomegranate Juice: 25.7
    Red wine: 25.7
    Black cherry juice: 25.3
    Blueberry juice: 23.9

    As you can see, they all beat MonaVie in antioxidant bioavailability.

    So, tell me how much acai is in MonaVie, again?

    Kevin, as a salesman, I know your first objective is to make sales. And your primary tool, when you have an inferior product, is deceit. But you aren’t going to be able to get away with it here. We aren’t your brain-dead zombies that you are used to dealing with.

    So, before you make yourself look anymore less intelligent than you have already, I suggest you slither away as fast as you can.

  20. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Sorry Vogel, one of your responses was held up in moderation.

    Kevin is what we call an Internet Troll.

    He makes obviously illegal claims. You tell him that the claims are illegal and his defense is “no they aren’t.” I’ll point out what MonaVie itself says about testimonies must be “subject to typical results”.

  21. MonaVie Scam Says:

    By the way, Kevin lied when he mentioned MonaVie ranking in the Inc. 500. Well perhaps he was using the 2009 rankings. I couldn’t find MonaVie anywhere in the 2010 rankings that are in the current issue.

    Oops!

    I guess this is because interest is fading in MonaVie.

  22. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    This is a little off the topic concerning the Income Disclosure, but Monavie are still continuing to edit their Wikipedia page.

    You will see that Monavie made alterations on July 8, 2010 by deleting “Monavie Active” during the referencing of the case of the of the woman who ingested Monavie throughout her preganancy which is thought to have caused cardiac hypertrophy and dysfunction of the child at birth.

    Monavie instead made the following edit:
    “Vitamin K, which is found in many fruit beverages”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MonaVie&diff=next&oldid=372389044
    http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx

    Disgraceful trying to divert attention from the fact that it was Monavie specifically that the mother consumed throughout the pregnancy and thus is directly implicated in the cause of the child’s heart condition!

    Nothing is beneath this farcical organisation and representatives – particularly given people’s well being (despite claiming to be a part of the wellness industry – scoff!) is the furtherest thing from the agenda.

  23. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    I stated “Disgraceful trying to divert attention from the fact that it was Monavie specifically that the mother consumed throughout the pregnancy and thus is directly implicated in the cause of the child’s heart condition!”

    Actually I probably worded that a little incorrectly – they are trying to divert people’s attention from the possible contraindications of Monavie. I’m sure you know what I mean though…

  24. MonaVie Scam Says:

    WTF!!! That is not acceptable without referencing which juices also have significant amounts of Vitamin K. I have not seen any other juices high in vitamin K. I haven’t done an exhaustive search, but most of what I see ties vitamin K to acai berry juices.

  25. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    Again, my apologies for being a little unclear in my statements – the adverse side effects Monavie editted didn’t relate to the woman ingesting Monavie while pregnant but specifically to patients on blood thinning agents. I was a little angry at the time.

    It’s so wrong.

  26. DG Says:

    MonaVie is down huge…that’s why they have not updated their income disclosure statement in over a year (they used to do it at least every 6 months). They are down roughly 70% in the US over the past 12 months. New markets such as Korea are keeping them alive, but not for much longer.

  27. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    I’ve also been wondering about the IDS. From the records of last year, the 2009 Mid Year Global IDS was release around mid September last year.

    We shall see obviously…..

  28. CGC Says:

    DG — On what evidence are you basing this claim of MV being down ~70% in the US?

  29. The Other Side Says:

    If you look at the average amount distributors are making, then it does look bad. The thing you have to realize is this: A vast majority of people that sign up, around 90%, do not actually do the business, or they drop out soon because they aren’t making a million a year within a month of starting. With this business you actually have to work it. It is not a get rich quick scheme. I have been in for 9 months, and I am making on average $30k a year, which is by no means a fortune, but it’s not bad considering I work about 8 hours a week at it. Most people get discouraged when they aren’t moving up ranks quickly enough, and get out. But, ask yourself this: If it took me 3 years to get to the point where I was making $150k a year, working an average of 15-20 hours a week, would it be worth it? For most people, yes it would. The good thing about this is that you don’t have to have a warehouse of product. Heck, I haven’t sold one bottle while I’ve been in, I’m getting paid strictly on volume and bonuses. Retail is the slowest and worst way to make money in this business. The other good thing, you only have two legs that you have to worry about building. And, if the person above you is slacking, you can easily pass them up. You are not limited to those above you. I know it’s easy to sign up for a Multi-Level Marketing business with someone telling you you’ll make crazy amounts of money within months, then when that promise is not delivered, it’s easy to say it’s a scam. The truth is if you treat this like a real business, and actually work at it, you can make decent money, you can easily make a very comfortable living within 5 years if you work it hard. Not to mention that the juice actually has helped a ton of people tremendously; I myself being one of those people. After seeing what it did for me, I got into the business so that I could help people I know, and even those I don’t.

  30. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Thanks The Other Side (TOS),

    What you fail to recognize is that the 90% do not drop out. A full 87% of the distributors (according to the footer of the Monavie Income Disclosure statement) make no money. These are NOT people who have dropped out. These are NOT people who are not trying as they would sign up to be preferred customers. These ARE people working the business off and getting nowhere.

    Also, it’s not a matter of effort, it’s a mathematical certainty. You can’t ask yourself the question of whether you can make $150K in 3 years. Why? Because MonaVie is an illegal pyramid scheme that isn’t sustainable.

    You prove that it’s an illegal pyramid scheme when you say, “Retail is the slowest and worst way to make money in this business.” (Thanks for being one of the few distributors who actually are honest about it though.) As for why it is an illegal pyramid scheme see this FTC report on MLMs that are illegal pyramid schemes:

    “Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It’s best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products.”

    So you are going to spend 3 years of your life building an illegal business that the FTC most likely will rip away from you. That’s a horrible business opportunity. It also what happened to those who followed Dallin Larsen’s last miracle juice company, Royal Tongan Limu, when it was shut down by the FTC and DoJ.

    Finally, you mention that the juice has helped people, but it hasn’t. It can’t. It is in the definition of it being juice. 4 Ounces of MonaVie is 1 Serving of Fruit or about 6 baby carrots. Six baby carrots does not help people tremendously. It’s just a lie that they tell themselves, because they want to bring more people into the pyramid scheme.

  31. switch Says:

    The other side-
    “I’m getting paid strictly on volume and bonuses.”

    I don’t buy it. Can you honestly say you’re aware of all the things said by the people under you to spread M.V. and at the same time being paid through LEGAL claims and testimonies???

    Prove it.

  32. The Other Side Says:

    When I said that, I do not mean that they all drop out. Most of them stay in, yet do not order anything, not even for themselves. Monavie does not kick people out for not doing anything, and it costs nothing to stay in, so most of the people do not bother with actually getting out of the business, so they are still counted as distributors, which brings the average income down tremendously. As for the retail, yes, it is the worst way to make money in the business, but many people still do it. I don’t because I am by no means a salesman. In a way, signing people up to drink the juice themselves is still a form of sales, it is just not retail. If you were to own a business such as a health store, or massage spa, etc.. you can make a good amount of money from the retail. I am a Silver Executive in this business, all without retail sales. When I approach somebody about this product, I do not give them empty promises of getting rich quick with minimal effort. I let them know that this should be treated as an actual business, and if you want to get rich quick then this is not the opportunity for you. There is nothing illegal about this business, it has been around for 6 years, has gotten tons of press, has been investigated, and is still alive and growing tremendously. What helps the people is the antioxidant value, which has been proven to be one of the highest concentrations than anything else on the market. Look up the studies on it. Many people say 4 oz. is equal to x amount of servings of fruit and vegetables, and they are mistaken in a sense. What Monavie says is that the antioxidant value is equal to that of 9-13 servings of the normal fruits in America: apples, oranges, bananas, fruits like those. Many distributors are mistaken in the facts, because they themselves have been misinformed by another misinformed person. I’m not trying to make any claims that Monavie is a cure for anything, but it has been proven that antioxidants help a persons health and overall well-being. Also, the Active, which is geared toward joint health, has the only FDA approved plant-based glucosamine in the United States, and glucosamine is what helps lubricate joints. My back is what this Active has helped on me. My docotr has told me that whatever it is I am doing is helping my back tremendously, more than the medication I was taking, so it’s not a placebo affect. I’m not saying this will be the case for everybody, but I am saying this was the case for me.

    Switch, I do not completely understand your question. Could you clarify what it is you are asking me?

  33. MonaVie Scam Says:

    It seems like MonaVie should start kicking the deadbeats out. If what you say is true, and there’s no way to verify that it is, MonaVie is only hurting itself. Either way, the numbers are the numbers. You can either make excuses for them or tell MonaVie that they need to kick those people out. Keep in mind that this is the company that missed releasing an Income Disclosure Statement last year because it was so bad. Not only that, but they bury the 87% of people who make nothing as a footnote to skew statistics to look better than they are. MonaVie does everything it can to make the IDS look good, so we have to conclude that it would kick these 87% out to help their stats if they weren’t doing anything.

    And yet it seems the number of people who actually do call MonaVie and drop out is 70% (source – see page 2). So we’ve got 70% dropping out completely and some 87% staying in.

    I gave the quote directly from FTC’s website. It is clearly illegal. The FTC is just too understaffed in this economy to act on it.

    MonaVie is not growing. It is shrinking greatly. That’s probably the reason why there is no IDS for mid 2010 and Canada’s is from 2008. They simply don’t want to put up a new one and show that they are shrinking. Don’t believe me? See: http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2010/05/03/an-anonymous-source-reveals-numbers-for-monavie/. Don’t believe that? Here are some other third party sources: http://www.juicescam.com/interest-in-monavie-is-fading/.

    I’ve looked at the studies of the antioxidant value. It isn’t high at all. A single apple is better than 9.5 ounces of it. So much for it being equal to 9-13 normal fruits like the apple that you cited. I guess you are just another misinformed person like the ones you speak of. Then again, this is one of the big problems with MonaVie… a bunch of misinformed people spreading lies. That’s why the product should just ditch the MLM model and be put on store shelves. Let’s get rid of the lies. What kind of person wants to be associated with a company of liars anyway? I guess you do.

    If you want to play the antioxidant angle, I’ve got a multivitamin that blows away MonaVie. However, as I said before an apple will do the trick too.

    The FDA hasn’t approved MonaVie’s specific plant-based glucosamine. Show me that document. The FDA spends no time with MonaVie’s products at all. If you want cheap plant-glucosamine – see: http://www.vegetarianvitamin.com/store/catalog/Vegan-Glucosamine-1.html. I just did a Google search and there clicked on the first product that I saw. I bet I could find cheaper versions if I want to. However, that’s a month’s supply for $10. That’s a lot cheaper that MonaVie’s price of $150+ a month.

    I would like you put your doctor on record for saying that. I heard a doctor say that MonaVie is bad for backs. Guess our information balances out unless one of us can prove it right? As always, MonaVie Medical Testimonies are Pointless.

    TOS said,

    “I’m not saying this will be the case for everybody, but I am saying this was the case for me.”

    This statement is a clear violation of MonaVie’s policy and the FTC’s guidelines: http://monaviemediacenter.com/blogs/5-tips-every-monavie-distributor-needs-to-know-about-the-new-ftc-guidelines

    You can’t claim it did [X] for you if it isn’t a “typical result” (which means that you need make a claim that it works for everybody).

  34. The Other Side Says:

    They actually did a “tree trimming” in November, and got rid of any distributors who had no activity within the last year. That got rid of a lot of them, but none of the ones who have gotten in during 2010. I emailed Monavie today asking them about a 2010 IDS, and as soon as I get a response I will get back to you on that. As for the apple, that is most likely for a fresh apple that has been grown mostly naturally. The majority of apples that one will buy at a grocery store or supermarket has been grown using many different chemicals to enhance growth, get rid of insects, etc.. and they are also shipped throughout the country, so by the time it is purchased, it has lost a huge amount of its antioxidants. I must have been misinformed on the FDA approval of the glucosamine, as I could not find anywhere where it says that. If I find it I will let you know. The link you provided appears to be broken, as it tells me that the webpage is unavailable. Most vitamins and multivitamins in pill form do not actually give your body the amount that is in the pill, because your body ends up absorbing a minuscule amount of what is in it, and the rest just ends up coming out as waste: http://ezinearticles.com/?Multivitamins:-The-Good,-The-Bad-and-The-Ugly&id=15318 As the medical industry has become more of a business than anything, you can understand why doctors would not be quick to endorse a product that might help people to not have to go to the doctor as often, or not have to buy as many medications. Many doctors are quick to condemn a potentially helpful product for that very reason. I know that under me people continue to get into the business, and are avidly working it. So, as far as I know, it is growing. More are coming in than are going out. If you can find a way to prove to me that Monavie is about to crash, then I will be more than happy to get out now. But, as for now, I am staying in because it is working for me, and my family who are in it as well. We are making good money, and until I stop making money, I will continue to be a Monavie distributor. So far Monavie corporate has not lied to me, and until they do, I will continue on.

    I want to thank you for this opportunity to discuss this, because I definitely want to know if I am wrong about something. It is refreshing to have someone to debate this with who actually uses facts, and not just “I tried Monavie and it didn’t work for me, so it’s a scam.” Like I said, if you can show me how this is a dead business, I will be the first one to acknowledge it, and get out, and tell everyone I know about it. For the time being, I still stand behind the product and the opportunity, because both have worked for me, and everybody in my family who is in it.

  35. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Well the “tree trimming” means nothing without an IDS. Can you get them to work on Canada’s too? It’s from 2008: http://media.monavie.com/pdf/canada/ids.pdf. Just a shoddy organization that’s 3 calendar years behind. Think about out it. Almost no one knew what an Android phone back then. That’s really old.

    As for the apple, it is just a normal apple – see http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/ORAC/ORAC_R2.pdf. There is no mention of it being organic or free of any chemicals. It’s just a regular apple.

    It’s worth noting that MonaVie is made from just regular fruit as well. All of that fruit has “many different chemicals to enhance growth, get rid of insects, etc.. and they are also shipped throughout the country”… wait, in MonaVie’s case the fruit is shipped from another country, making it even worse. And before you claim that the freeze-drying process preserves the acai, note that MonaVie is less than 2% Freeze-Dried Acai.

    Which link are you claiming is broken? There are 7 of them. I went back and checked all them and they all work. If it is the plant-based glucosamine (as that seems to be the area you are talking about), just search the web for 30 seconds and find another retailer. There’s any number of them available.

    You might want to reference something better than Ezinearticles. After all, I can find numerous misinformed health claims about MonaVie there – such as this one: http://ezinearticles.com/?MonaVie—Whats-So-Special?&id=1120525. However, I’ll agree that with you that our body can’t digest most of the vitamins and minerals in a multivitamin. That’s because they pack it so full. You are still going to get more vitamins and minerals than what you get with MonaVie. Take a look, almost no vitamins or minerals at all:

    Plus MonaVie has the same issue with its ORAC: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-jonny-bowden/new-rules-no-more-claimin_b_106562.html.

    Please don’t go into the conspiracy theory that doctors don’t want you get better. You know how much a cancer cure is worth to Pfizer? I don’t think it is a stretch to say it would be worth a trillion dollars. A doctor that discovers it, instantly becomes close to the richest person in the world. It is very good business to be able to treat people effectively.

    However, this talk of doctors is irrelevant and off topic. My toast has as much to do with medicine as MonaVie. If MonaVie wants to get in the discussion with doctors, treatments, medicine, etc. it can go through the FDA clinical trials and get approved. I’d send my toast, but I know it is just food like MonaVie being just juice.

    I can’t “prove” that MonaVie is about to crash, but I did show you three independent non-biased resources that show it is. Just remember, the more time you spend on it, the more of a let down it is going to be when it does crash. When it crashes it will be without warning just like it happened to the Royal Tongan Limu distributors. Maybe you should ask yourself what’s different this time? Nothing.

    As for making money, it is a very selfish claim. You only make money by making another 19 people lose money – http://www.juicescam.com/its-not-a-matter-of-effort-its-a-mathematical-certainty/. You didn’t address that. To reach the level you claim to be at, you’ve put tens of thousands of people in debt. It’s nothing to be proud of. You should be ashamed.

  36. Vogel Says:

    TOS said: “They actually did a “tree trimming” in November, and got rid of any distributors who had no activity within the last year. That got rid of a lot of them, but none of the ones who have gotten in during 2010.”

    Says who? Reliable source please. That’s sounds like BS.

    TOS said: “As for the apple, that is most likely for a fresh apple that has been grown mostly naturally. The majority of apples that one will buy at a grocery store or supermarket has been grown using many different chemicals to enhance growth, get rid of insects, etc.. and they are also shipped throughout the country, so by the time it is purchased, it has lost a huge amount of its antioxidants.”

    That’s completely unwarranted supposition on your part about the apples tested by the USDA being atypical; that’s foolish. You make it sound like supermarket apples are bad for you. That’s foolish too. Monavie isn’t organic and it has sodium benzoate (a controversial preservative) added to it (no other juices use it because it’s BAD), and pesticides are widely (and recklessly) used in the Amazon region where acai is grown. The antioxidant levels in supermarket fruit are fine, and I greatly resent your efforts to dissuade people from eating real fruit in lieu of $45-a-bottle idiot juice. It’s a dishonest and potentially dangerous message.

    TOS said: “I must have been misinformed on the FDA approval of the glucosamine, as I could not find anywhere where it says that.”

    You’re misinformed on everything else so far, so why would glucosamine be any exception? (1) Glucosamine is not FDA approved; it’s marketed as a dietary supplement. (2) Glucosamine is a cheap ingredient and does not remotely justify Monavie’s pyramid-scam prices.

    TOS said: “Most vitamins and multivitamins in pill form do not actually give your body the amount that is in the pill, because your body ends up absorbing a minuscule amount of what is in it, and the rest just ends up coming out as waste.”

    Complete hogwash. Nutrients from any inexpensive supermarket multivitamin are consistently and reliably absorbed in the intended amounts. You’re assertion to the contrary has no scientific basis whatsoever.

    TOS said: “As the medical industry has become more of a business than anything, you can understand why doctors would not be quick to endorse a product that might help people to not have to go to the doctor as often, or not have to buy as many medications. Many doctors are quick to condemn a potentially helpful product for that very reason.”

    Wow. It’s taking a lot of self control to respond to you in a civil manner and not just dismiss you as a brain-injured imbecile. Suffice it to say you haven’t a F-ing clue about how the medical profession operates. You’re trying to vilify the motives of an entire profession (millions of physicians and allied health professionals around the world) by suggesting that they are all conspiring to suppress Monavie, a fraudulent “medical miracle”, and are purposely keeping people sick for the sake of money. Your conspiracy theory tirade is like a warped and broken record. Take a look in the mirror and at the sick F Monavie execs whose asses you kiss and whose pockets you line – that’s who’s trying to screw the public for money and doesn’t care a lick about anyone’s wellbeing but their own.

    TOS said: “If you can find a way to prove to me that Monavie is about to crash, then I will be more than happy to get out now. But, as for now, I am staying in because it is working for me, and my family who are in it as well. We are making good money, and until I stop making money, I will continue to be a Monavie distributor. So far Monavie corporate has not lied to me, and until they do, I will continue on.”

    So in other words, who cares if you’re participating in a pyramid scheme and selling fraudulent juice illegally as a disease remedy, as long as you and yours get paid? Need I waste my time trying to give you the lesson on ethics and morality that you so sorely need?

    TOS said: “I want to thank you for this opportunity to discuss this, because I definitely want to know if I am wrong about something.”

    You’re welcome; and now you know — you’re wrong about EVERYTHING. Repent!

    TOS said: “It is refreshing to have someone to debate this with who actually uses facts, and not just “I tried Monavie and it didn’t work for me, so it’s a scam.”

    Sadly, you’re impervious to those facts.

    And where’s your distributor ID#? Promoting Monavie on blogs without revealing your name and ID# is a violation of company policy. Now why would an “honest” person do a thing like that???

  37. switch Says:

    The other side says-
    “There is nothing illegal about this business”…

    There’s been all kinds of legal problems with it and you know it. Whether you admit that is up to you but we all know from doing our research that there are problems with the business which leads to me clarifying my question. What I meant was, how do you know that every single penny has been made through legal claims on your team? Can you honestly say that every single person on your team NEVER used any of the illegal health claims to spread the juice on your team to advance you to the silver level? Are you even aware of ALL the rules that are laid out for distributors?

    Right now, I’m having a hard time seeing it because it’s still happening around my area.

  38. Mackwiz Says:

    TOS,

    That was a nice sway attempt but if you go and check out some other posts on the site, every one of your points has been refuted before. The other day I posted something about what Vogel just said, the fact that someone like you would buy into a conspiracy about “Big Medicine” yet not see the actual conspiracy being pulled right out from under you by MonaVie.

    Don’t you see the problem when we tell you that your CEO’s previous juice company that he was an executive on (Royal Tongan Limu) got shut down for making outrageous miracle medical claims? Shouldn’t a light come on at that point, especially when you realize that no where from MonaVie will you hear of this Limu juice?

    Should some dare call it, conspiracy?

    Your IDS explanation is not very sufficient in my opinion. If you read between the lines on what you stated, you are basically saying that MonaVie knows and wants 90% plus of the people to join up and eventually fail because they will dump at least enough into the pyramid to be useful. My reason is that they would be much more scrutinizing about signing people up so they wouldn’t have all this dead weight at the bottom. They don’t scrutinize people because money is money, and every little bit at the bottom means loads of money at the top.

    I went to a meeting and I know how they pitch it, they say it’s not get rich quick, they say you have to work at it, but then they make it sound like it’s so easy at the same time, and something only a fool would pass up. They make no qualms about sigining a guy up even if it’s obvious he isn’t the kind of person who is going to last long getting constantly rejected by his peers for trying to sell them this stuff.

    Thank god for MonaVie. I always wanted a reason to harass my relatives at Thanksgiving get-together:

    Me:”C’mon guys, don’t you care about your kids, get them jacked on the juice! Dallin Larsen was recently named “LeBron James of the Juice Game” and Dr Schauss said MonaVie gave him the ability to cry during sad parts in movies; it is the real deal! Look at the pictures of my upline jet-skiing while hang-gliding over Mt Rushmore!”

    If they are so adamant about saying it’s not get rich quick, then why did a lady at the MonaVie meeting I went to show us pictures of her in yachts, in mansions, on private jets, going on vacations around the world? Where else do you see that kind of behavior at? Too bad she didn’t say the odds where on par with winning the lottery.

  39. jim Says:

    TOS said “If you can find a way to prove to me that Monavie is about to crash, then I will be more than happy to get out now.”

    I can prove to you that Mona vie showed a decline in their last 2 IDS statements. The end of year 2008 IDS showed more gross profit and more profitable distributors than the mid year 2009 IDS. This analysis was exposed on Lazy Man and they have not released an IDS since. If things have improved, wouldn’t they have a new IDS. Doesn’t it seem reasonable that this trend only continued given all the other source JS has sited.

    I don’t know how to link to the Lazy Man comments on the mid year 2009 IDS but the date and time was
    October 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    (JS, can you help me by providing a link to make it easier for TOS.)

    Also,I wrote the analysis on it not being a matter of effort but a mathematical certainty that at least 95% of distributors have to fail regardless of effort or system. JS has provided this link twice. I welcome your thoughts on this.

    Thanks

  40. Jim Says:

    TOS said ” A vast majority of people that sign up, around 90%, do not actually do the business, or they drop out soon because they aren’t making a million a year within a month of starting.”

    TOS then said “I know that under me people continue to get into the business, and are avidly working it.”

    So 90% don’t try but 100% of your downline is advidly working it. Does this really make sense that you were able to find dedicated distributors and 90% of everyone else’s don’t try?

    Let me ask you… You must have quite the downline, what percentage have turned a profit after expenses? It’s less than 5% isn’t it? This is not a matter of your downline working toward being profitable. Your downline will always have 95% or more cash flow negative. It’s how the system is designed and you are responsible for the losses those that trusted you have incurred.

    You seem open minded. Welcome to the truth. Now you need to make the moral decision whether you continue in this scheme. I hope you choose well.

  41. Rasheed Says:

    I gotta hand it to MonaVie. After all their shenanigans, I’d expect them to pull out numbers from their ass and make a new IDS showing that the average Distributor rank makes $100k per week.

    But that’s like saying, “at least that shooter at Tucson only killed 6 people and not 30!”

    The lesser evil is still evil… and you can always vote with your wallet and not buy MonaVie!

  42. humiliated Says:

    TOS. I am not sure that you have the right to say: ” I still stand behind the product and the opportunity, because both have worked for me, and everybody in my family who is in it.”. And then say that it is nice to debate with people who have facts & not just say “it didn’t work for me”. Isn’t that what you just did? Unless you are about to agree with all of the facts brought forward which blatantly refute any and all claims that you have just made about the company and the “product”, then that is the ONLY thing you are able to argue. And, as MS so poignantly points out, it is an incredibly selfish way to make money.

    Also, isn’t whether a system “works” for a person a true indicator of it’s success? I think the strongest argument that a person has is to say it didn’t work (because we know that it is ‘just juice’ so why get involved but for the business aspect) because I didn’t get in early enough. I see that in my up-line so please don’t have the nerve to argue with me. It wasn’t until I got out that I truly saw how I had used my friends and family to make a bit of money. It wasn’t until then that I saw that I was unknowingly involved in a pyramid scheme. I still haven’t forgiven myself and I suggest that if you have an ounce of moral fiber, you will feel the same way once you open your eyes to what you are involved in.

    JS, I want to prove a point to TOS about the false claims. I read (in the last week) a post about a distributor posting something on Facebook regarding children. It said something to the effect that we should all have our children on it because it is the equivelant to 6-8 servings of fruit and veggies a day. For the life of me, I can’t find it on Lazy or this site. I must say, it put me into a rage. I have had enough of these people. If they want to deprive themselves of nutrients , have at ‘er, I have stopped caring, but when they involve innocent children my previously latent homicidal tendencies come to the surface. Can you help me find it?

  43. Mackwiz Says:

    Humiliated,

    I think it was the link I added in a recent post. I am looking for the specific article as well. I did a search for something (can’t remember what) and found that facebook page.

  44. Mackwiz Says:

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32143750319

    I’m down for reporting this to the FDA; it is full of illegal claims.

  45. Mackwiz Says:

    Illegal claims in the link above:

    “With Monavie, they only need 2 oz of Monavie per day to get 6-7 servings of fruit a day”

    “The Monavie blend is certified organic and gluten-free. The fruits are grown in the wild where no factories or humans can pollute the soil.”

    I found this funny though:
    “Men’s Journal exclaims, “[Acai is] the fruit that packs a punch.”

    “Not only is Monavie Original safe for children, it is also safe for pregnant women.”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351708

    If you notice, a lot of the deception from the facebook page is very similar to what TOS was stating. So this whole “herding cats” nonsense is bogus, they are getting fed this phony info from the leaders.

  46. The Other Side Says:

    Well, I must say, I was completely ignorant and did not realize what I was actually doing. I can’t believe they were able to brainwash me so easily. My first clue should have been their religious fanaticism. I thank all of you for bringing all of this to light, and I am going to begin dismantling my business and showing all of this to each one of them. I guess the old adage “If it’s too good to be true, then it is” was correct in this case. Forgive me for my ignorance.

  47. Rasheed Says:

    No problem TOS. I was there too. Feels good to be enlightened doesn’t it?

    If it’s not too much to ask, I think it would be great for you to share your entire experience on this website (click on Submit an Article). What we need is more people exposing the company for what it is.

  48. The Other Side Says:

    Yes, it definitely does! I consider myself to be an intelligent gentleman, so I’m happy to admit I had been wrong.

    As for the article, I can definitely write one. It pains me to think of others being completely blinded by the flashy lights and loud music that make up a Monavie meeting. I would be happy to try and enlighten others.

  49. humiliated Says:

    TOS, I truly hope that you are being genuine & have had a change of heart.Pardon my skepticism but we have had distributors come on here and play games with us and I hate that it has made me distrustful, but sadly, it has.

    If you are leaving the cult, can you please tell us what you were in fact making as a “silver”? I know that I was being lied to about what my up-line actually made on a consistent basis and I just wondered if you would be willing to share this with us.

    I understand that you will be discussing your new found knowledge with your up-line & I have no doubt that we will be called “haters, non-believers, negative or dream killers” but I really am curious to see what other things they will say to you. We look forward to hearing back from you.

  50. humiliated Says:

    Thanks so much for finding that Mackwiz. I agree that they should be reported to the FDA immediately.

 
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