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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey G said: &quot;I do not think it’s fair to say &quot;these are the kind of guys that get involved with MonaVie.&quot; Although I am not involved with MonaVie directly, I think that grouping everyone with that company to the behavior of that guy hurts your credibility (not to mention stereotyping.)

Siesser may be one of the few distributors to make threats of violence, but as far as being an a-hole goes, he&#039;s just one of many in the Monavie organization. Read through the posts and comments here and you&#039;ll see ample evidence of that. Signing up liars, desperados, a-holes, suckers, and simpletons seems to be Monavie&#039;s idea of equal opportunity employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey G said: &#8220;I do not think it’s fair to say &#8220;these are the kind of guys that get involved with MonaVie.&#8221; Although I am not involved with MonaVie directly, I think that grouping everyone with that company to the behavior of that guy hurts your credibility (not to mention stereotyping.)</p>
<p>Siesser may be one of the few distributors to make threats of violence, but as far as being an a-hole goes, he&#8217;s just one of many in the Monavie organization. Read through the posts and comments here and you&#8217;ll see ample evidence of that. Signing up liars, desperados, a-holes, suckers, and simpletons seems to be Monavie&#8217;s idea of equal opportunity employment.</p>
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		<title>By: ExAmbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExAmbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...make poor decisions like join MonaVie.&quot;

LOL joining MonaVie is a poor decision!  Damn right it is.  In fact joining any MLM is a poor decision - this is a pernicious, predatory pretend &quot;industry!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;make poor decisions like join MonaVie.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL joining MonaVie is a poor decision!  Damn right it is.  In fact joining any MLM is a poor decision &#8211; this is a pernicious, predatory pretend &#8220;industry!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-distributor-glenn-siesser-threatens-to-kill-me/comment-page-1/#comment-46769</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t suggest that everyone in MonaVie has the behavior of Glenn Siesser.  What I was suggesting is that people who are mentally imbalanced, like Glenn Siesser are more likely to make poor decisions like join MonaVie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t suggest that everyone in MonaVie has the behavior of Glenn Siesser.  What I was suggesting is that people who are mentally imbalanced, like Glenn Siesser are more likely to make poor decisions like join MonaVie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think it&#039;s fair to say &quot;these are the kind of guys that get involved with MonaVie.&quot;  Although I am not involved with MonaVie directly, I think that grouping everyone with that company to the behavior of that guy hurts your credibility (not to mention stereotyping.)  I&#039;m sorry to hear that Glenn Siesser threatened you, but he seemed like he was a troubled man before he joined MonaVie and never got the true help he needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think it&#8217;s fair to say &#8220;these are the kind of guys that get involved with MonaVie.&#8221;  Although I am not involved with MonaVie directly, I think that grouping everyone with that company to the behavior of that guy hurts your credibility (not to mention stereotyping.)  I&#8217;m sorry to hear that Glenn Siesser threatened you, but he seemed like he was a troubled man before he joined MonaVie and never got the true help he needed.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-distributor-glenn-siesser-threatens-to-kill-me/comment-page-1/#comment-38687</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure. If you could hit the contact button at the top of the page and send me an email, I would appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. If you could hit the contact button at the top of the page and send me an email, I would appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown1796</title>
		<link>http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-distributor-glenn-siesser-threatens-to-kill-me/comment-page-1/#comment-38686</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown1796</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of secret information on a high raking TEAM leader. One who speaks on stage at ALL leadership conventions. His picture is on the home page of the www.the-team.biz website. Are you interested?</description>
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		<title>By: Humiliated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humiliated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I have a &quot;hallelujah&quot;! Fabulous post Hellraiser! I find it ironic that the ultimate responsibility will/should fall back into the hands of the distributors who, as you say, should make the company accountable for doing some housekeeping and answering some very valid questions about the product(s). These distributors are the VERY ones who have been lied to at their first meeting, weekly meetings, Regional meetings and R3Global meetings. They are lied to about the nutritional content and the &quot;business opportunity&quot;. Yet they are the ones that need to plead to their company CEOs to &quot;make it right&quot;. These are the same people that Larsen snidely refers to as &quot;cats&quot;. They are only going on what they have been told, they have had no training and appear to be (I am generalizing here from the majority of the posts) uneducated, which is why they condemn that horrible &quot;post secondary&quot; education. I am not going to get into a philisophical debate about whether higher education = more intelligent, as I know a lot of people that don&#039;t have a &quot;minute&quot; of post secondary education that looked at me like I had two heads when I talked about MV (bless &#039;em). So, as I was saying, those a-holes feed these people false information and then turn around and BLAME them when they use that information to sell the product. The Glenn Seissers are the extreme version of that mind set but they are all unwittingly (until they read these blogs of course!) taught to LIE. Dallin Larsen got on the radio with Royal Tongan Juice and made the same claims about that juice that he is about Monavie. They were shut down due to these false claims. He is now just getting these distributors to do his dirty work and then publicly denouncing their behaviour when they are &quot;caught&quot;. Truly despicable. Yet he is idolized by his adoring masses. I find it humorous, his followers will say that that was just a little mistake, and still they feel he is a brilliant entrepeneur. How could someone allegedly so savvy in business make such a FATAL error? False advertising is a crime and he was head of marketing. Do the math. Good business people don&#039;t  make mistakes of such mammoth proportions. 

As per the latest post from Vogel, the Germans have deemed this to be an illegal business model and there is a reason for that...because it is!!! 

All of the MV executives and various shades of Diamonds should be the ones on trial here. They are the ones who are perpetrating the lies and they need to be held accountable. I say this because these are the people who are &quot;coached&quot; on what to tell their downline if someone brings up the bogus scientific studies, the c- BBB rating etc.. They are FULLY aware of all of the damning evidence out there but they are not interested in confronting the truth head on, because if they were honest people, they would have to wrestle with the moral implications of remaining with this company, pay check be damned...they are just interested in spin doctoring the facts in order to bring more people into the pyramid and keeping the current distributors ignorant. These are their leaders. The whole thing disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I have a &#8220;hallelujah&#8221;! Fabulous post Hellraiser! I find it ironic that the ultimate responsibility will/should fall back into the hands of the distributors who, as you say, should make the company accountable for doing some housekeeping and answering some very valid questions about the product(s). These distributors are the VERY ones who have been lied to at their first meeting, weekly meetings, Regional meetings and R3Global meetings. They are lied to about the nutritional content and the &#8220;business opportunity&#8221;. Yet they are the ones that need to plead to their company CEOs to &#8220;make it right&#8221;. These are the same people that Larsen snidely refers to as &#8220;cats&#8221;. They are only going on what they have been told, they have had no training and appear to be (I am generalizing here from the majority of the posts) uneducated, which is why they condemn that horrible &#8220;post secondary&#8221; education. I am not going to get into a philisophical debate about whether higher education = more intelligent, as I know a lot of people that don&#8217;t have a &#8220;minute&#8221; of post secondary education that looked at me like I had two heads when I talked about MV (bless &#8216;em). So, as I was saying, those a-holes feed these people false information and then turn around and BLAME them when they use that information to sell the product. The Glenn Seissers are the extreme version of that mind set but they are all unwittingly (until they read these blogs of course!) taught to LIE. Dallin Larsen got on the radio with Royal Tongan Juice and made the same claims about that juice that he is about Monavie. They were shut down due to these false claims. He is now just getting these distributors to do his dirty work and then publicly denouncing their behaviour when they are &#8220;caught&#8221;. Truly despicable. Yet he is idolized by his adoring masses. I find it humorous, his followers will say that that was just a little mistake, and still they feel he is a brilliant entrepeneur. How could someone allegedly so savvy in business make such a FATAL error? False advertising is a crime and he was head of marketing. Do the math. Good business people don&#8217;t  make mistakes of such mammoth proportions. </p>
<p>As per the latest post from Vogel, the Germans have deemed this to be an illegal business model and there is a reason for that&#8230;because it is!!! </p>
<p>All of the MV executives and various shades of Diamonds should be the ones on trial here. They are the ones who are perpetrating the lies and they need to be held accountable. I say this because these are the people who are &#8220;coached&#8221; on what to tell their downline if someone brings up the bogus scientific studies, the c- BBB rating etc.. They are FULLY aware of all of the damning evidence out there but they are not interested in confronting the truth head on, because if they were honest people, they would have to wrestle with the moral implications of remaining with this company, pay check be damned&#8230;they are just interested in spin doctoring the facts in order to bring more people into the pyramid and keeping the current distributors ignorant. These are their leaders. The whole thing disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellraiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellraiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize in advance for the long post...

Interest in monavie is fading, sales are reportedly tanking, lawsuits are abundant, bad PR is drowning the distributors, the BBB rating was a C- last time I checked, JUNK SCIENCE claims are rising,  the FDA has already issued at least 1 warning, the drop out rate (~70%) is unsustainable, corporate financial and charitable misconduct allegations have arrived, and recently,  monavie distributors have threatened blackmail and violence against at least one consumer advocate for daring to seek out and discuss the truth.

It is time for the monavie executives (responsible for running and leading the company ethically and legally) to show some appropriate action and leadership before the government is FORCED to take action.  They should hastily decide between the following two options:

1) Get VERY serious about ethics and complying with the (FDA, FTC, State) laws and reign in their ignorant, wildcat, mona-bot distributors in the STRICTEST, MOST EXPEDIENT FASHION possible, or 

2) Prove to the world that the multitude of (currently) illegal claims flooding the internet have merit (are generally accepted by the scientific and medical communities via gold-standard clinical trials) and that the law does not apply to their products/company for that reason.

If monavie remains silent, they should expect to reap the natural consequences, such as overwhelming bad press, criminal prosecution, and probable closure of the company).  The executives running this company are apparent charlatans who REFUSE to make good on their claims about the worth of the product AND the unprecedented business opportunity through transparency and basic, generally accepted, good business conduct.  The negativity will only grow with the status quo, and will eventually engulf the company and relegate it to the annals of failed MLM history. 

  We have heard for YEARS from mona-bots about how the clinical trials are underway and the results (due any time now from reputable doctors and universities all over the world) will make all us &quot;haters&quot; writhe on the floor, racked with pain and guilt because we did not believe that monavie was indeed a miracle fruit product that has medicinal benefits never before seen by modern man, and we all missed out on the grandiose business opportunity of a lifetime to become millionaires.

  So where are the irrefutable, gold-standard results?  The highly acclaimed company leaders (who behave like frauds, afraid of the truth and light) have had 5 years to accomplish this task and have failed MISERABLY!

IF this is such a God Blessed company, with righteous, Christian men leading it, then why on earth are the leaders avoiding their self-appointed duty to HELP THEIR DISTRIBUTORS by handing them the ammunition they need (PROOF) to prevail in this awful, uphill, endless PR nightmare they have created for themselves AND (more importantly) for their distributors?  It is and always was Mr. Larsen&#039;s duty to address these problems.  I do not envy your position, because I do NOT have faith that Mr. Larsen intends to address these problems at all.

The sooner Dallin Larsen and the rest of the top monavie executives and their associated &quot;medical experts&quot; address legitimate questions and squelch the negative commentary by non-violent and non-litigious means, the better - for many reasons, but primarily to increase their revenue, lower their drop out rate, and expand the company... which makes it much easier to sell the product.  Unfortunately, they are either unable or unwilling to put things right in an attempt to increase consumer/public confidence in the following ways:
 
   Improve the corporate BBB rating to the â€œhonor rollâ€ category rather than a worrisome C- (improved from a previous F).  Surely, the super CEO and entrepreneur of the year (Mr. Larsen) can handle such a small task!  This would help reduce â€œnegativityâ€ now present among prospective clients and increase public confidence.

   Engage in rational dialog (with skeptics and experts) about their product, and enlighten (shock and awe?) us about the nutritional content, basic formulation, amount of acai and other fruits in the blend(s), as well as a host of other related issues contained on this site to silence the ignorant â€œhatersâ€ in their tracks.

   Provide meaningful, transparent financial data to validate their revenue claims, distributor earnings, charitable ventures/expenditures, and distributor terminations (similar to a publicly traded corporation).

   IMMEDIATE, mandatory training for distributors regarding legal and illegal language and behavior, and harsh enforcement of the company policies and procedures, including termination of rogue distributors and reporting them to the FDA and FTC for unlawful conduct. Lawsuits against former distributors for damage to the company reputation due to false claims might also be in order.  Termination of distributors who are convicted of criminal behavior (such as Lou Niles) would be a reassuring gesture also.

   IMMEDIATELY increase the tiny ~8 person enforcement department to an EFFECTIVE size, regardless of the cost or the number of employees.  Their task includes finding and removing ALL non-approved monavie web sites and ALL non-approved content (via legal means if necessary).

   Apologize for the incompetence, lawlessness, and greed inherent in the company culture and Offer to make restitution to anyone duped by the unfounded health and wealth claims.

  Stop filing frivolous lawsuits and harassing distributors who choose to leave the organization.

Distributors, does this sound reasonable to you?  The sad FACT is, it is much more difficult to grow your business with all of the bad PR flooding the internet, coupled with the new FDA/FTC regulations prohibiting personal testimonials (unless the results are typical and properly documented).  The newer distributors face a growing mountain of obstacles and a tainted corporate image that the pioneer Black Diamonds never had to confront when building their businesses.  

Distributors, listen to your conscience, pray, and ponder the above... ask yourselves if you deserve to wade through the sewage that the executives dumped in your front yard and refuse to clean up.  YOU need to hold your leaders accountable for their lack of performance and the depressing results.  Demand that those at the top of the &quot;triangle-shaped tree&quot; do their duty and clean out the corruption and confusion, so you can do your job with peace of mind  ;-)

If the executives ignore the public (and the misinformed distributors asking for clarification), the public will avoid the distributors... it&#039;s that simple.  It is already happening!</description>
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<p>Interest in monavie is fading, sales are reportedly tanking, lawsuits are abundant, bad PR is drowning the distributors, the BBB rating was a C- last time I checked, JUNK SCIENCE claims are rising,  the FDA has already issued at least 1 warning, the drop out rate (~70%) is unsustainable, corporate financial and charitable misconduct allegations have arrived, and recently,  monavie distributors have threatened blackmail and violence against at least one consumer advocate for daring to seek out and discuss the truth.</p>
<p>It is time for the monavie executives (responsible for running and leading the company ethically and legally) to show some appropriate action and leadership before the government is FORCED to take action.  They should hastily decide between the following two options:</p>
<p>1) Get VERY serious about ethics and complying with the (FDA, FTC, State) laws and reign in their ignorant, wildcat, mona-bot distributors in the STRICTEST, MOST EXPEDIENT FASHION possible, or </p>
<p>2) Prove to the world that the multitude of (currently) illegal claims flooding the internet have merit (are generally accepted by the scientific and medical communities via gold-standard clinical trials) and that the law does not apply to their products/company for that reason.</p>
<p>If monavie remains silent, they should expect to reap the natural consequences, such as overwhelming bad press, criminal prosecution, and probable closure of the company).  The executives running this company are apparent charlatans who REFUSE to make good on their claims about the worth of the product AND the unprecedented business opportunity through transparency and basic, generally accepted, good business conduct.  The negativity will only grow with the status quo, and will eventually engulf the company and relegate it to the annals of failed MLM history. </p>
<p>  We have heard for YEARS from mona-bots about how the clinical trials are underway and the results (due any time now from reputable doctors and universities all over the world) will make all us &#8220;haters&#8221; writhe on the floor, racked with pain and guilt because we did not believe that monavie was indeed a miracle fruit product that has medicinal benefits never before seen by modern man, and we all missed out on the grandiose business opportunity of a lifetime to become millionaires.</p>
<p>  So where are the irrefutable, gold-standard results?  The highly acclaimed company leaders (who behave like frauds, afraid of the truth and light) have had 5 years to accomplish this task and have failed MISERABLY!</p>
<p>IF this is such a God Blessed company, with righteous, Christian men leading it, then why on earth are the leaders avoiding their self-appointed duty to HELP THEIR DISTRIBUTORS by handing them the ammunition they need (PROOF) to prevail in this awful, uphill, endless PR nightmare they have created for themselves AND (more importantly) for their distributors?  It is and always was Mr. Larsen&#8217;s duty to address these problems.  I do not envy your position, because I do NOT have faith that Mr. Larsen intends to address these problems at all.</p>
<p>The sooner Dallin Larsen and the rest of the top monavie executives and their associated &#8220;medical experts&#8221; address legitimate questions and squelch the negative commentary by non-violent and non-litigious means, the better &#8211; for many reasons, but primarily to increase their revenue, lower their drop out rate, and expand the company&#8230; which makes it much easier to sell the product.  Unfortunately, they are either unable or unwilling to put things right in an attempt to increase consumer/public confidence in the following ways:</p>
<p>   Improve the corporate BBB rating to the â€œhonor rollâ€ category rather than a worrisome C- (improved from a previous F).  Surely, the super CEO and entrepreneur of the year (Mr. Larsen) can handle such a small task!  This would help reduce â€œnegativityâ€ now present among prospective clients and increase public confidence.</p>
<p>   Engage in rational dialog (with skeptics and experts) about their product, and enlighten (shock and awe?) us about the nutritional content, basic formulation, amount of acai and other fruits in the blend(s), as well as a host of other related issues contained on this site to silence the ignorant â€œhatersâ€ in their tracks.</p>
<p>   Provide meaningful, transparent financial data to validate their revenue claims, distributor earnings, charitable ventures/expenditures, and distributor terminations (similar to a publicly traded corporation).</p>
<p>   IMMEDIATE, mandatory training for distributors regarding legal and illegal language and behavior, and harsh enforcement of the company policies and procedures, including termination of rogue distributors and reporting them to the FDA and FTC for unlawful conduct. Lawsuits against former distributors for damage to the company reputation due to false claims might also be in order.  Termination of distributors who are convicted of criminal behavior (such as Lou Niles) would be a reassuring gesture also.</p>
<p>   IMMEDIATELY increase the tiny ~8 person enforcement department to an EFFECTIVE size, regardless of the cost or the number of employees.  Their task includes finding and removing ALL non-approved monavie web sites and ALL non-approved content (via legal means if necessary).</p>
<p>   Apologize for the incompetence, lawlessness, and greed inherent in the company culture and Offer to make restitution to anyone duped by the unfounded health and wealth claims.</p>
<p>  Stop filing frivolous lawsuits and harassing distributors who choose to leave the organization.</p>
<p>Distributors, does this sound reasonable to you?  The sad FACT is, it is much more difficult to grow your business with all of the bad PR flooding the internet, coupled with the new FDA/FTC regulations prohibiting personal testimonials (unless the results are typical and properly documented).  The newer distributors face a growing mountain of obstacles and a tainted corporate image that the pioneer Black Diamonds never had to confront when building their businesses.  </p>
<p>Distributors, listen to your conscience, pray, and ponder the above&#8230; ask yourselves if you deserve to wade through the sewage that the executives dumped in your front yard and refuse to clean up.  YOU need to hold your leaders accountable for their lack of performance and the depressing results.  Demand that those at the top of the &#8220;triangle-shaped tree&#8221; do their duty and clean out the corruption and confusion, so you can do your job with peace of mind  ;-)</p>
<p>If the executives ignore the public (and the misinformed distributors asking for clarification), the public will avoid the distributors&#8230; it&#8217;s that simple.  It is already happening!</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I want to know, are you Lazy Man as well? I always thought those were two different sites :P</description>
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		<title>By: Rasheed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually kind of scary. I don&#039;t support death threats in any way so this is unacceptable. Keep us posted :)</description>
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