So let me get this straight. You respect our right to have an opinion but you don’t respect our right to share that opinion? Rather illogical don’t you think? You have the right to ‘change the channel’, so to speak, and find a site where the opinions expressed are more in line with your own (i.e the echo chamber in which MV drones dwell). So why wouldn’t you just do that instead of demanding that we be silent?

Trevor said: “their (sic) is (sic) safe guards (sic) to keep the business regulated and illegitimate (sic)”

Not really. Care to elaborate what you meant, maybe in English this time?

Trevor said: “But regardless as to what I say here the editor will likely shoot me down. Because all he/she cares about is making companies look bad. Doesn’t matter if you do have enough info to convince them it is a good company he/she will find something to appeal to just to keep to their game that it is a scam.”

Translation: “I (Trevor) could easily prove that all the criticism of Monavie is unjustified – but I won’t.” That doesn’t carry much weight now does it? Reality check — if you could, you would, but you can’t, so you won’t.

Trevor said: “Because all he/she cares about is making companies look bad.”

Monavie makes itself look bad. We’re just holding up the mirror.

Trevor said: “Doesn’t matter if you do have enough info to convince them it is a good company he/she will find something to appeal to just to keep to their game that it is a scam.”

I see…you’re back to the strategy of “I could easily prove that you are wrong about everything but I won’t because that would be too much trouble so instead I’ll just write a long post filled with irrelevant whining.”

Trevor said: “So think for yourself most information on the internet will feed you a bunch of bull”

That’s certainly true when it comes to Monavie. Fortunately, this is one of the few sites that aren’t filled with generic boilerplate BS about the company.

Trevor said: “not everyone has a right to speak into your life.”

What exactly is that supposed to mean. Sounds like you’re asking people to put blinders on for fear that they might read something negative about Monavie. I have to conclude that you’re incapable of making a case for Monavie and cannot discount any of the criticism, so the only tactic at your disposal is to plead with people to not read anything negative about Monavie. That’s laughable…in a very sick sad kind of way.

“So think for yourself most information on the internet will feed you a bunch of bull if you are serious about more information about this stuff talk to people who personally were a part of and hear from their experience, my point not everyone has a right to speak into your life.”

Good advice, so go check out the discussions here:

http://amthrax.wordpress.com/

There are lots of people there with a lot of experience with MonaVie.

The real problem is that you did not bring up any points or facts. I can’t remember the last time someone defending mona vie did bring up any points or facts. Too often all the pro mona vie crowd seems to do is complain that we’re negative, but can never seem to point out anything that has been said to be false.

Please please please show me where any of the points of this website are inaccurate. Please explain to me the benefits of mona vie over V8 Fusion that justifies the 2000% price difference. Please enlightlen me to any proven health benefits over ordinary juice. Please dispute the fact that more than 19 out of 20 distributors have to be cash flow negative in this “opportunity” regardless of effort or system that they are plugged into. Please show me how to interpret the IDS so that it doesn’t prove more than 98% of the distributors were cash flow negative.

Give us something to discuss. If we’re wrong, give us something to correct. Coming on and just saying “you’re negative” and “you don’t understand” is vague and doesn’t extend the conversation. Either be specific in trying to educate us, after all you made the accusation that the admin is ignorant, or read this site and educate yourself.

As it turns out, most people looking to make points in favor of MonaVie are ignorant of the information. They probably haven’t taken the time to read this site. Instead they listen to what MonaVie and other distributors tell them. Most distributors never seen an opposing viewpoint, because MonaVie Tries to Suppress the Truth (see that article for a few of the many examples.

I don’t believe that almost everything today lacks the nutrients it claims. If my orange juice doesn’t have the amount of vitamin C it lists (within a small margin of error) it is an FDA violation. The difference is that MonaVie distributors are making illegal medical claims about the product. It is so prevalant that Dr. Bowden had to write an article, “No More Claiming MonaVie Cures Cancer!”. You may not realize it, but there’s a big difference between saying something is healthy and that something cures cancer. An apple is healthy – it doesn’t cure cancer.

You suggest that I should let others think for themselves. Those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. It is MonaVie that uses cult tactics into brainwashing people so that they can’t think for themselves. As for being negative, you should read this article and realize that criminals think that the police are negative too.

You suggest that there should be a comparison between MonaVie and the mark-up of cheap liquor at a bar. I’ve gone through this analogy many times on this site. Typically people will use the Starbucks and coffee, but it works the same for liquor and bars. I went through his analogy so many times that I wrote an article about MonaVie vs. Starbucks. Enjoy being enlightened!

You makes a great point Trevor that “Monavie is not better then any other juice beverage.” Unfortunately, people aren’t being told that. MonaVie surely isn’t saying it. If this was common knowledge, I’d still say that MonaVie is scamming people, but give them credit for at least telling the people that they are being scammed. As it stands, many people are paying the high price for the product, not because they like it, but because they think it can cure some condition, or that is equivalent to eating 13 fruits, or some other fraudalent claim.

You said that MonaVie doesn’t pay large firms advertising fees. That’s false. They’ve paid to be the official sponsor of the Boston Red Sox. They’ve paid for their Indy Car. They’ve paid to put the product in celebrities gift bags at awards shows so that they can con more distributors into thinking that “if celebrity X is seen with MonaVie, it must be good!” These are all coming out of MonaVie’s advertising campaign.

Trevor said,

“Their is a cap on how much a distributor can earn and their is safe guards to keep the business regulated and illegitimate.”

What is that cap? It seems like Brig Hart made a lot of money. Perhaps you are right in that they cap how much a distributor can earn. It sounds like something that MonaVie would do, as it would allow them to keep more of the profits.

Trevor, you are right I’m going to shoot you down. It’s because you don’t make any kind of logical statements that are relevant to whether it is a scam or not. I don’t care about making companies look bad, I care about consumers not getting scammed. If MonaVie wants to price it’s product in line with the other juice beverages (since “Monavie is not better then any other juice beverage” in your own words) and stop people from making illegal medical claims, I will run a banner at the top of this website saying that “This website is only for historical purposes. MonaVie has corrected the problems in their business model that scammed others. I can now endorse them” (or something like that). The ball is in MonaVie’s court. Let me know when they do it.

“So think for yourself most information on the internet will feed you a bunch of bull if you are serious about more information about this stuff talk to people who personally were a part of and hear from their experience, my point not everyone has a right to speak into your life.”

Remember, that the people who have experience in this product are being paid by the company to get you into the group. They are not looking out for your best interests, they are looking to make themselves money. As the author of this site, I make no money if you buy MonaVie or not. I provide his information freely to you and ask for no money from you at all. That’s something that a MonaVie distributor can’t offer.

So think for yourself most information on the internet will feed you a bunch of bull if you are serious about more information about this stuff talk to people who personally were a part of and hear from their experience, my point not everyone has a right to speak into your life.

Now it seems that all their energy is focused on the new Reveal diet products, but that too reads as an admission of failure, since this is the same crap that Larsen et al. tried to peddle, and failed, through Monarach Health Sciences. Why the reversion to diet products? Is it a safety net in case the FDA orders them to destroy their juice inventory, as they did to Dynamic Essentials?

All I can smell coming from Monavie these days is the distinct aroma of failure and defeat. And no updated IDS??? The Monavie traveling medicine show looks like it’s going to pick up the tent pegs and make a B line out of town any minute now.

Man, that’s even worse than the “synergy” claim and the “we have the best acai” claim.

I can think of a couple of explanations distributors will likely come up with:

1. V8 doesn’t have certain fruits that MonaVie has like camu camu, wolfberry, etc. The synergy of the 19 speical fruits makes MonaVie work; it was formulated through rigirous scientific research.

Acai Mixed Berry: Sweet Potatoes, Carrots, Apples, White Grapes, Acai Berries, Blueberries, Limes.

MonaVie: ACAI BERRY, WHITE GRAPE, ARONIA, ACEROLA, PURPLE GRAPE, PASSION FRUIT, CAMU CAMU,
BANANA, LYCHEE FRUIT, APPLE, KIWI, POMEGRANATE, PRUNE, WOLFBERRY, PEAR, BILBERRY,
CRANBERRY, BLUEBERRY, CUPUACU.

2. V8 is of dubious quality because a mega-corp produces it.

3. Company that makes V8 (Campbell’s) is in collusion with the FDA, the very same organization that wants to make you sick so you can feed precription medicine money to the big pharmacutical companies.

4. I tried switching to V8 and my back pain/ insomnia/headaches came back. I went back to MonaVie and it went away.

5. MonaVie has the world’s one and only freeze-drying process that gives you the best possible acai. No other competitor comes close.

6. You can’t be part of something great by buying V8, but you can with MonaVie.

And yes, all of these reasons are BS and have been debunked on this site.

Why would anyone do business with a company without doing research on the corporate bigwigs?

MV Scam: When pointed this out, a distributor will often say, “Because MonaVie is packaged in glass, which prevents leeching of the nutrients.”

To which a wise person would respond, “Says what study?”

If the glass does anything, it leeches. From your pocket. In terms of shipping cost. Oh, and they probably charge extra because it looks like a fancy wine.

Sweet! There are a number of choices available which are better than Monavie nutritionally AND better value.
http://www.juicescam.com/mens-journal-proves-monavie-lacks-nutrition/

The beauty about investing in bottle of Welch’s Grape Juice, for example, is that you’ll actually save yourself over $100 a month which is more that what you’d ever make in Monavie. And you’ll preserve your relationships by not attempting to lure your nearest and dearest in a pyramid scam which is priceless.