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		<title>By: Rand C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramona,
First off I wish I had read this site three years ago before I got involved in Money-vie
I thought it might be a marketable product. What I learned is that its not about the product its about signing up distributors (pyramiding). The product has very little  Acai and lack any thing close to nutrition. I went to SLC Utah to investigate Monavies so call international convention, I wanted to see what was behind the company. From what I could see they took the distributors money to put on a two day advertising promotion about themselves. I emphasize, payed for out of the distributors pockets. The corporate headquarters staff was mostly young kids, I was not impressed. It looked like a company that could make there assets liquid in the blink of an eye. You watch, Dalin Larsen and his cronies will soon be a thing of the past and they will be retired in south America on the monies of the 90% of the distributors that didn&#039;t make a dime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramona,<br />
First off I wish I had read this site three years ago before I got involved in Money-vie<br />
I thought it might be a marketable product. What I learned is that its not about the product its about signing up distributors (pyramiding). The product has very little  Acai and lack any thing close to nutrition. I went to SLC Utah to investigate Monavies so call international convention, I wanted to see what was behind the company. From what I could see they took the distributors money to put on a two day advertising promotion about themselves. I emphasize, payed for out of the distributors pockets. The corporate headquarters staff was mostly young kids, I was not impressed. It looked like a company that could make there assets liquid in the blink of an eye. You watch, Dalin Larsen and his cronies will soon be a thing of the past and they will be retired in south America on the monies of the 90% of the distributors that didn&#8217;t make a dime</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us spend about 5-20 minutes a day a few times a week on this site debating.  That doesn&#039;t really make us obesssive. Anyway, what&#039;s more obsessive, some people spending time exposing a scamming juice MLM (trying to save people from ending up in the 98% bottom of the MonaVie pymramid), or people so obessed with said juice MLM that they come on here with incoherent rants trying to defend said scammer MLM, sounding like a possessed madman with violent tendencies?  

Maybe you could try making some actual debatable points rather than being a belligerent psycho trying to play the &quot;you are all just losers with nothing better to do&quot; card.  Sorry, that doesn&#039;t make MonaVie good, it just makes you look like a vicious a-hole.

I&#039;m not here because I have nothing better to do, I am here because I saw what MonaVie and Team do first hand and was shocked.  I decided to take action after getting the facts right and this site is a great platform for it.   Maybe if you quit being a greedy jerk you could do the same and see what is being done to you right in front of your face.

If you really feel like you are above us and we are pathetic then drop the ad hominems and give us something to debate or answer some simple questions such as why anyone should sign up for a company where 98%+ of the distributors are not making money? (Not working hard enough has already been refuted, so don&#039;t waste your time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us spend about 5-20 minutes a day a few times a week on this site debating.  That doesn&#8217;t really make us obesssive. Anyway, what&#8217;s more obsessive, some people spending time exposing a scamming juice MLM (trying to save people from ending up in the 98% bottom of the MonaVie pymramid), or people so obessed with said juice MLM that they come on here with incoherent rants trying to defend said scammer MLM, sounding like a possessed madman with violent tendencies?  </p>
<p>Maybe you could try making some actual debatable points rather than being a belligerent psycho trying to play the &#8220;you are all just losers with nothing better to do&#8221; card.  Sorry, that doesn&#8217;t make MonaVie good, it just makes you look like a vicious a-hole.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not here because I have nothing better to do, I am here because I saw what MonaVie and Team do first hand and was shocked.  I decided to take action after getting the facts right and this site is a great platform for it.   Maybe if you quit being a greedy jerk you could do the same and see what is being done to you right in front of your face.</p>
<p>If you really feel like you are above us and we are pathetic then drop the ad hominems and give us something to debate or answer some simple questions such as why anyone should sign up for a company where 98%+ of the distributors are not making money? (Not working hard enough has already been refuted, so don&#8217;t waste your time).</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to think that I spend a lot of time on this website.  It&#039;s not that much - just a couple of minutes a day.  That adds up over the course of a few years.  It&#039;s easy to fit it in with a normal job, family, life etc...  Some people volunteer their time in other ways, I like to help educate people avoid being scammed.  We all donate what we can, right?

It&#039;s interesting that you presented my arguments as anything less than certainties.  You give a lot of &quot;if you are wrong&quot; and &quot;if you are incorrect.&quot;  I invite people to comment and prove me incorrect.  There are some 4000+ comments on this website, and I have only had to make one change to one article - about the number of car accidents in the United States.  It wasn&#039;t even about MonaVie.

Maybe you should ask yourself why you are not negative MonaVie.  After all, this website has provided tons of irrefutable evidence supported by reputable third parties that MonaVie is a grossly overpriced product, with little nutritional value, wrapped in a poor business opportunity that is an illegal pyramid scheme, which is itself wrapped in illegal medical claims, supported by nonsensical &quot;scientific&quot; studies, and tied to a fraudulent charity.

Is there any redeeming quality that makes you defend the company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to think that I spend a lot of time on this website.  It&#8217;s not that much &#8211; just a couple of minutes a day.  That adds up over the course of a few years.  It&#8217;s easy to fit it in with a normal job, family, life etc&#8230;  Some people volunteer their time in other ways, I like to help educate people avoid being scammed.  We all donate what we can, right?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you presented my arguments as anything less than certainties.  You give a lot of &#8220;if you are wrong&#8221; and &#8220;if you are incorrect.&#8221;  I invite people to comment and prove me incorrect.  There are some 4000+ comments on this website, and I have only had to make one change to one article &#8211; about the number of car accidents in the United States.  It wasn&#8217;t even about MonaVie.</p>
<p>Maybe you should ask yourself why you are not negative MonaVie.  After all, this website has provided tons of irrefutable evidence supported by reputable third parties that MonaVie is a grossly overpriced product, with little nutritional value, wrapped in a poor business opportunity that is an illegal pyramid scheme, which is itself wrapped in illegal medical claims, supported by nonsensical &#8220;scientific&#8221; studies, and tied to a fraudulent charity.</p>
<p>Is there any redeeming quality that makes you defend the company?</p>
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		<title>By: Ramona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you schizophrenic?  Just wondering because you seem to be presevarating an awful lot on one thing. Where the hell do you find the time and effort to try to pick apart some juice company don&#039;t you have a real job and a family... ah .... a life?  Or are you just another random lunatic. Further more I hope you can be justified in all your ranting because if you are wrong.... man I&#039;d hate to have your Karma. You spew so much anger and negativity at a business that you clearly have no interest in... why even bother?  And if you are incorrect you will be judged in THIS LIFE by your words deeds and actions, not to mention the hereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you schizophrenic?  Just wondering because you seem to be presevarating an awful lot on one thing. Where the hell do you find the time and effort to try to pick apart some juice company don&#8217;t you have a real job and a family&#8230; ah &#8230;. a life?  Or are you just another random lunatic. Further more I hope you can be justified in all your ranting because if you are wrong&#8230;. man I&#8217;d hate to have your Karma. You spew so much anger and negativity at a business that you clearly have no interest in&#8230; why even bother?  And if you are incorrect you will be judged in THIS LIFE by your words deeds and actions, not to mention the hereafter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 04:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mun,

Why then did MonaVie drop off of the Inc 500 list for 2010? They couldn&#039;t sustain their growth, that&#039;s why. From start, it is very easy for a company to grow 5000%, as MonaVie Scam has pointed out. 

Can that company sustain 5000% growth forever? Every year, their revenues would have to be multiplied by 50. Even starting from $1, we see that after a few years, things start getting crazily impossible. 

A starting-up company growing 5000% doesn&#039;t really mean anything. Give me a company that is a few years old that has growth of over 1000% and then we&#039;ll talk money. 

Mun said, &quot;As for people who are always on the negative they know where they are now &amp; coming years.
Its all about magnetic thinking as taught by Matt Dillard.&quot;

1) Assuming you mean that we are negative; yes, we do know where we are now. Your point? I resent that statement though; none of us here are negative. We just hate falsehood. 

2) Magnetic thinking? Matt Dillard? You disgrace Mike Dillard&#039;s name. People don&#039;t think like a magnet. People think the way they want to think, and happen to attract other people who think alike. That is the Law of Attraction in a nutshell. 

Do yourself (and us) a favor and never speak of the subject again. You&#039;ll look like a fool. Not only that, but the Law of Attraction has nothing to do with the discussion at hand: i.e. MonaVie and the Inc 500. Unless you wanted to point out that since you happen to be an ignorant fool, your upline and downline are ignorant also. In that case, I&#039;m proud of you for making that realization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mun,</p>
<p>Why then did MonaVie drop off of the Inc 500 list for 2010? They couldn&#8217;t sustain their growth, that&#8217;s why. From start, it is very easy for a company to grow 5000%, as MonaVie Scam has pointed out. </p>
<p>Can that company sustain 5000% growth forever? Every year, their revenues would have to be multiplied by 50. Even starting from $1, we see that after a few years, things start getting crazily impossible. </p>
<p>A starting-up company growing 5000% doesn&#8217;t really mean anything. Give me a company that is a few years old that has growth of over 1000% and then we&#8217;ll talk money. </p>
<p>Mun said, &#8220;As for people who are always on the negative they know where they are now &amp; coming years.<br />
Its all about magnetic thinking as taught by Matt Dillard.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) Assuming you mean that we are negative; yes, we do know where we are now. Your point? I resent that statement though; none of us here are negative. We just hate falsehood. </p>
<p>2) Magnetic thinking? Matt Dillard? You disgrace Mike Dillard&#8217;s name. People don&#8217;t think like a magnet. People think the way they want to think, and happen to attract other people who think alike. That is the Law of Attraction in a nutshell. </p>
<p>Do yourself (and us) a favor and never speak of the subject again. You&#8217;ll look like a fool. Not only that, but the Law of Attraction has nothing to do with the discussion at hand: i.e. MonaVie and the Inc 500. Unless you wanted to point out that since you happen to be an ignorant fool, your upline and downline are ignorant also. In that case, I&#8217;m proud of you for making that realization.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mun, you clearly don&#039;t know what you are talking about.

Microsoft went public in 1986, so it wasn&#039;t eligible for the Inc. 500 (since it is a list of only privately held companies).  It didn&#039;t &quot;decide&quot; to not bother.

Also, the rankings are done based on revenue growth (see the methodology).  When you get to be as big as household names like Microsoft, Jenny Craig, John Paual Mitchell, or Clif bar, it becomes exponentially difficult to continue that growth.  Someone with one dollar to their name who finds a $10 bill on the ground has 1000% net worth growth.  For someone like Warren Buffett to have 1000% he&#039;d have to find a big technology company lying on the ground.  The person with one dollar to his name would make the top of the Inc. 500 and Warren Buffett would be left off the list.

Of course the founders and successful distributors are grinning on the way to the bank.  Remember that it is at your expense.  If you want to buy my pocket lint for $500, I&#039;ll be grinning to the bank as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mun, you clearly don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>Microsoft went public in 1986, so it wasn&#8217;t eligible for the Inc. 500 (since it is a list of only privately held companies).  It didn&#8217;t &#8220;decide&#8221; to not bother.</p>
<p>Also, the rankings are done based on revenue growth (see the methodology).  When you get to be as big as household names like Microsoft, Jenny Craig, John Paual Mitchell, or Clif bar, it becomes exponentially difficult to continue that growth.  Someone with one dollar to their name who finds a $10 bill on the ground has 1000% net worth growth.  For someone like Warren Buffett to have 1000% he&#8217;d have to find a big technology company lying on the ground.  The person with one dollar to his name would make the top of the Inc. 500 and Warren Buffett would be left off the list.</p>
<p>Of course the founders and successful distributors are grinning on the way to the bank.  Remember that it is at your expense.  If you want to buy my pocket lint for $500, I&#8217;ll be grinning to the bank as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft started as a partnership between Bill Gates and Paul Allen in 1975. Today, the company&#039;s operating system runs more than 90% of the world&#039;s PCs -- making its founders two of the world&#039;s richest men. They made their 1st Billion in 1983 (accumulated since day 1). so in 1984 they applied to be in the list on Inc 500 &amp; they made the ranking of no 80. in 1985 it dropped to no 163 (not a very good indicator) &amp; so never bothered to apply anymore &amp; now they are $60Billion company.
of course when we are doing very well with 5000% growth from startup we want to show to public our reputation. as such once at the top MonaVie wouldn&#039;t want to be behind their 2009 achievement because they learned from Microsoft and others too such as:
Jenny Craig
#6, 1988 / #448, 1989
John Paul Mitchell Systems
#71, 1986 / #141, 1987 / #279, 1989
Clif Bar
#152, 1998 / #186, 1999 / #387, 2000
One thing for sure the founders &amp; the successful distributors are grinning happily on their way to the bank.
As for people who are always on the negative they know where they are now &amp; coming years.
Its all about magnetic thinking as taught by Matt Dillard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft started as a partnership between Bill Gates and Paul Allen in 1975. Today, the company&#8217;s operating system runs more than 90% of the world&#8217;s PCs &#8212; making its founders two of the world&#8217;s richest men. They made their 1st Billion in 1983 (accumulated since day 1). so in 1984 they applied to be in the list on Inc 500 &amp; they made the ranking of no 80. in 1985 it dropped to no 163 (not a very good indicator) &amp; so never bothered to apply anymore &amp; now they are $60Billion company.<br />
of course when we are doing very well with 5000% growth from startup we want to show to public our reputation. as such once at the top MonaVie wouldn&#8217;t want to be behind their 2009 achievement because they learned from Microsoft and others too such as:<br />
Jenny Craig<br />
#6, 1988 / #448, 1989<br />
John Paul Mitchell Systems<br />
#71, 1986 / #141, 1987 / #279, 1989<br />
Clif Bar<br />
#152, 1998 / #186, 1999 / #387, 2000<br />
One thing for sure the founders &amp; the successful distributors are grinning happily on their way to the bank.<br />
As for people who are always on the negative they know where they are now &amp; coming years.<br />
Its all about magnetic thinking as taught by Matt Dillard.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They aren&#039;t there.  The main criteria is the growth of the companies and we know that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/interest-in-monavie-is-fading/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interest in MonaVie is fading&lt;/a&gt;, so this isn&#039;t surprising.

I added an update at the beginning of the paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They aren&#8217;t there.  The main criteria is the growth of the companies and we know that the <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/interest-in-monavie-is-fading/" rel="nofollow">interest in MonaVie is fading</a>, so this isn&#8217;t surprising.</p>
<p>I added an update at the beginning of the paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: CGC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CGC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are they this year?

http://www.inc.com/inc5000/list/industry/food-beverage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are they this year?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inc.com/inc5000/list/industry/food-beverage" rel="nofollow">http://www.inc.com/inc5000/list/industry/food-beverage</a></p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vogel,

That is a very good point about the certification process... especially come from a bunch of executives that openly thumb their nose at the authorities.  

I&#039;ll email Jim and see if we can information on who certified the numbers.  Jim did say it could be the CEO of the company, who obviously is an employee of MonaVie.  That&#039;s why I responded to Jim&#039;s comment that the company has shown itself to not be trustworthy numerous times in the past...  it was hint that we shouldn&#039;t take such unverified information as worth anything.

Vogel, I tried to cover the revenue vs. profits with my explanation in the third bullet point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vogel,</p>
<p>That is a very good point about the certification process&#8230; especially come from a bunch of executives that openly thumb their nose at the authorities.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll email Jim and see if we can information on who certified the numbers.  Jim did say it could be the CEO of the company, who obviously is an employee of MonaVie.  That&#8217;s why I responded to Jim&#8217;s comment that the company has shown itself to not be trustworthy numerous times in the past&#8230;  it was hint that we shouldn&#8217;t take such unverified information as worth anything.</p>
<p>Vogel, I tried to cover the revenue vs. profits with my explanation in the third bullet point.</p>
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