Comments on: MonaVie and Inc. Magazine’s 500 http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-inc-magazines-500/ Is MonaVie a Scam? Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:36:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: MonaVie Scam http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-inc-magazines-500/comment-page-1/#comment-1888 MonaVie Scam Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:07:08 +0000 http://www.juicescam.com/?p=137#comment-1888 Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Melloan. I didn't see how that verification was outlined in the methodology. I figured that you'd take on signed documents as you suggest, but I wanted to make the distinction that you don't actually go in an perform an audit... nor do you seem to require an a very established auditor verify the numbers. I don't suggest that you should, but just what you said in the end, "people can still lie to us." I think that in some places (<a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/" rel="nofollow">like this one</a> or <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/the-more-project-is-misusing-funds/" rel="nofollow">this one</a>), I've shown that MonaVie has a history of not telling the truth. On another level the Consumerist even <a href="http://consumerist.com/5356665/monavie-hits-blogger-over-trademarks-in-metadata" rel="nofollow">wrote a story about how they tried to shut me</a>... and I do is ask questions that they don't want asked. MonaVie distributors are spreading the word around the Internet that they are Inc. Magazine's #1 Food and Beverage and point to this link: http://www.inc.com/inc5000/2009/lists/top-industry-food---beverage.html. It would greatly helpful to consumers if you clarified that page with some of the bullet points mentioned here, so it's not considered an endorsement from Inc. Magazine as to the value the products there. I would like to add that a couple of months ago, I did subscribe to your magazine and I quite enjoy it. (It was a great price on Amazon.com, and I couldn't resist it.) Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Melloan. I didn’t see how that verification was outlined in the methodology. I figured that you’d take on signed documents as you suggest, but I wanted to make the distinction that you don’t actually go in an perform an audit… nor do you seem to require an a very established auditor verify the numbers. I don’t suggest that you should, but just what you said in the end, “people can still lie to us.”

I think that in some places (like this one or this one), I’ve shown that MonaVie has a history of not telling the truth. On another level the Consumerist even wrote a story about how they tried to shut me… and I do is ask questions that they don’t want asked.

MonaVie distributors are spreading the word around the Internet that they are Inc. Magazine’s #1 Food and Beverage and point to this link: http://www.inc.com/inc5000/2009/lists/top-industry-food—beverage.html. It would greatly helpful to consumers if you clarified that page with some of the bullet points mentioned here, so it’s not considered an endorsement from Inc. Magazine as to the value the products there.

I would like to add that a couple of months ago, I did subscribe to your magazine and I quite enjoy it. (It was a great price on Amazon.com, and I couldn’t resist it.)

]]> By: Jim Melloan http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-and-inc-magazines-500/comment-page-1/#comment-1886 Jim Melloan Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:35:53 +0000 http://www.juicescam.com/?p=137#comment-1886 Most of the points you make about the Inc. 500 and MonaVie are fair, but as the project manager for the Inc. 500 list I'd like to set the record straight on verification. It is not true that we do not verify the numbers that companies report. Companies must submit verification documents to make the list. They may submit corporate tax forms for the years in question, audits, or our own Revenue Certification Form, which must be signed by the CEO and by a CPA or other accredited person. The idea here is that if information comes to light that a company has provided us with false information, and they have submitted a form with the signature of a CPA or someone with similar credentials, we can inform the state accrediting entity about that person's actions. True that people can still lie to us, as they can lie to the IRS and auditors, but not at all true that we don't make a reasonable effort to verify the numbers. --Jim Melloan Project Manager, Inc. 500|5000 Inc. magazine Most of the points you make about the Inc. 500 and MonaVie are fair, but as the project manager for the Inc. 500 list I’d like to set the record straight on verification. It is not true that we do not verify the numbers that companies report. Companies must submit verification documents to make the list. They may submit corporate tax forms for the years in question, audits, or our own Revenue Certification Form, which must be signed by the CEO and by a CPA or other accredited person. The idea here is that if information comes to light that a company has provided us with false information, and they have submitted a form with the signature of a CPA or someone with similar credentials, we can inform the state accrediting entity about that person’s actions. True that people can still lie to us, as they can lie to the IRS and auditors, but not at all true that we don’t make a reasonable effort to verify the numbers.
–Jim Melloan
Project Manager, Inc. 500|5000
Inc. magazine

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