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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some good points Carrie.  However, I would add that if there&#039;s a choice between MonaVie and another 100% juice, the other juice wins.  This includes $3 juices from Ocean Spray and Welch&#039;s.

I appreciate your comments as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good points Carrie.  However, I would add that if there&#8217;s a choice between MonaVie and another 100% juice, the other juice wins.  This includes $3 juices from Ocean Spray and Welch&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one major concern about MonaVie.  The acai berry is dehydrated and the others have been cooked and frozen (made into concentrate.)  It is (or at least should be) well known that dehydrating, freezing, or heating fruit and vegetables in any way kills vitamins.  So, how can fruit juices that are more than just squeezed fruit be better nutritionally than the actual fruit?  Also, fruit and vegetable juices are all well and good, but the &quot;meat&quot; also holds nutritional value...even if we don&#039;t normally eat that particular part of the fruit/vegetable (like watermelon rind.)  

That being said, if there is a choice between no fruits and Monavie, then the choice is Monavie.  However, it is a lot cheaper to just go and buy a lot of fruits to snack upon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one major concern about MonaVie.  The acai berry is dehydrated and the others have been cooked and frozen (made into concentrate.)  It is (or at least should be) well known that dehydrating, freezing, or heating fruit and vegetables in any way kills vitamins.  So, how can fruit juices that are more than just squeezed fruit be better nutritionally than the actual fruit?  Also, fruit and vegetable juices are all well and good, but the &#8220;meat&#8221; also holds nutritional value&#8230;even if we don&#8217;t normally eat that particular part of the fruit/vegetable (like watermelon rind.)  </p>
<p>That being said, if there is a choice between no fruits and Monavie, then the choice is Monavie.  However, it is a lot cheaper to just go and buy a lot of fruits to snack upon!</p>
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		<title>By: Mackwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Did you ever think Welch’s might be an Advertiser for this magazine…doh!&quot;

You mean like how MonaVie pays off shills like Schauss and Lou Niles?  If the independent lab that conducted the tests for Men&#039;s Journal claimed that Welch&#039;s cured back pain, maybe you&#039;d have something.  How you people trout all manner of conspiracy theories when the real conspiracy is right in your face...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did you ever think Welch’s might be an Advertiser for this magazine…doh!&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like how MonaVie pays off shills like Schauss and Lou Niles?  If the independent lab that conducted the tests for Men&#8217;s Journal claimed that Welch&#8217;s cured back pain, maybe you&#8217;d have something.  How you people trout all manner of conspiracy theories when the real conspiracy is right in your face&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike B, 

Did you see that Men&#039;s Journal had an independent lab do the testing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike B, </p>
<p>Did you see that Men&#8217;s Journal had an independent lab do the testing?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever think Welch&#039;s might be an Advertiser for this magazine...doh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever think Welch&#8217;s might be an Advertiser for this magazine&#8230;doh!</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientistMatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadScientistMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along the lines of Coke stripping rust, I wonder what sort of terrifying-looking demonstration one could come up with using MonaVie? A lot of natural foods tend to be corrosive, acidic, or otherwise very much chemically active. Maybe show it stripping the galvanized coating off a nail? I&#039;ll bet MonaVie would take that zinc coating off and leave it rusted if you left it in there overnight.

Which proves absolutely nothing about its health claims either way. Humans are not zinc-dipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along the lines of Coke stripping rust, I wonder what sort of terrifying-looking demonstration one could come up with using MonaVie? A lot of natural foods tend to be corrosive, acidic, or otherwise very much chemically active. Maybe show it stripping the galvanized coating off a nail? I&#8217;ll bet MonaVie would take that zinc coating off and leave it rusted if you left it in there overnight.</p>
<p>Which proves absolutely nothing about its health claims either way. Humans are not zinc-dipped.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome point Jim.  By the way, I just pulled this from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monavie.com/products/energy-blends/emv/faqs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MonaVie EMV Lite FAQ&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;Q: Why is MonaVie EMV lightly carbonated?&quot;
&quot;A: We lightly carbonate MonaVie EMV to enhance the taste, flavor, and experience of drinking it. Sound research on the effects of carbonation shows it is very safe for consumption and that there are no negative effects on the body.&quot;

So how is this different than Coke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome point Jim.  By the way, I just pulled this from the <a href="http://www.monavie.com/products/energy-blends/emv/faqs" rel="nofollow">MonaVie EMV Lite FAQ</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Q: Why is MonaVie EMV lightly carbonated?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;A: We lightly carbonate MonaVie EMV to enhance the taste, flavor, and experience of drinking it. Sound research on the effects of carbonation shows it is very safe for consumption and that there are no negative effects on the body.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how is this different than Coke?</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent evaluation and response Monavie Scam.  It appears to consistantly be the same corporate propaganda which has already been disproven being brought forward time and time again as if it is some new revelation.

I would like to briefly address one item Joseph Martin brought up, he said &quot; I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?”&quot;

Urban legends and consipracy theories (not this example, but the FDA comes to mind) abound in Mona vie, critical thinking not so much.  What makes Coke disolve rust is carbonic acid, which nearly all carbonated soft drinks contain.  It works better if you just use carbonated water as you don&#039;t have all the sugary residue.  Joseph, do you now say that soda water is bad for you and question what it does to your body?  If that&#039;s the case, is it the carbon, the hydrogen or the oxygen that is harmful?
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent evaluation and response Monavie Scam.  It appears to consistantly be the same corporate propaganda which has already been disproven being brought forward time and time again as if it is some new revelation.</p>
<p>I would like to briefly address one item Joseph Martin brought up, he said &#8221; I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?”&#8221;</p>
<p>Urban legends and consipracy theories (not this example, but the FDA comes to mind) abound in Mona vie, critical thinking not so much.  What makes Coke disolve rust is carbonic acid, which nearly all carbonated soft drinks contain.  It works better if you just use carbonated water as you don&#8217;t have all the sugary residue.  Joseph, do you now say that soda water is bad for you and question what it does to your body?  If that&#8217;s the case, is it the carbon, the hydrogen or the oxygen that is harmful?<br />
<a href="http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid</a></p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Joseph Martin said, &quot;The bottom line is that there are a lot of people who benefit from MonaVie products. It makes them feel better and there is nothing wrong with a product that makes people feel better about their health.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s nothing wrong with MonaVie?  This website (and the sister website mentioned above) has provided tons of irrefutable evidence supported by reputable third parties that MonaVie is a grossly overpriced product, with little nutritional value, wrapped in a poor business opportunity that is an illegal pyramid scheme, which is itself wrapped in illegal medical claims, supported by nonsensical &quot;scientific&quot; studies, and tied to a fraudulent charity.

How much worse can a product get?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Joseph Martin said, &quot;If you want to attack a company then what about the soda companies? I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?” That is why started drinking only nutritional, health drinks and my health has greatly improved thanks to companies like MonaVie.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Soda does what it claims to do.  It quenches thirst at a reasonable price compared to it&#039;s competitors.  I don&#039;t know a soda company out there making any illegal health claims or well, any of the things that I mentioned above.  Before you mention anything about Coke, you should probably read this website in more detail.  I wrote an article specifically addressing that point &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-secret-formulas-and-coca-cola/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MonaVie, Secret Formulas, and Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Joseph Martin said, &#8220;The bottom line is that there are a lot of people who benefit from MonaVie products. It makes them feel better and there is nothing wrong with a product that makes people feel better about their health.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with MonaVie?  This website (and the sister website mentioned above) has provided tons of irrefutable evidence supported by reputable third parties that MonaVie is a grossly overpriced product, with little nutritional value, wrapped in a poor business opportunity that is an illegal pyramid scheme, which is itself wrapped in illegal medical claims, supported by nonsensical &#8220;scientific&#8221; studies, and tied to a fraudulent charity.</p>
<p>How much worse can a product get?</p>
<blockquote><p>Joseph Martin said, &#8220;If you want to attack a company then what about the soda companies? I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?” That is why started drinking only nutritional, health drinks and my health has greatly improved thanks to companies like MonaVie.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Soda does what it claims to do.  It quenches thirst at a reasonable price compared to it&#8217;s competitors.  I don&#8217;t know a soda company out there making any illegal health claims or well, any of the things that I mentioned above.  Before you mention anything about Coke, you should probably read this website in more detail.  I wrote an article specifically addressing that point <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-secret-formulas-and-coca-cola/" rel="nofollow">MonaVie, Secret Formulas, and Coca-Cola</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: MonaVie Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaVie Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

MonaVie does not openly claim that it&#039;s product cures Cancer because that would be illegal.  Dallin Larsen learned from his last company, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Tongan_Limu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Royal Tongan Limu&lt;/a&gt; that means you get shut down quickly.  So with MonaVie, he&#039;s making it clear through all written and published communication that MonaVie doesn&#039;t cure cancer.  This doesn&#039;t prevent people from spreading &quot;testimonies&quot; through their downline.  It is quite miraculous that numerous distributors make numerous medical claims.  If you want to see some examples look at the comment archive on my other website: http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/.

Or better yet, you can look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lou Niles&lt;/a&gt; who was dressed up in scrubs claiming that he was a cancer expert: http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/.  (The videos may be down now, but you can usually find them on YouTube).  Lou Niles was being paraded around as a cancer doctor by a top ranking MonaVie distributor.  Of course Lou Niles has no oncology experience at all and is not a medical doctor.

And MonaVie corporate isn&#039;t much better.  While it&#039;s not cancer, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-corporate-attributes-coma-brain-injury-recovery-to-monavie/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MonaVie Corporate Attributes Coma Brain Injury Recovery to Monavie&lt;/a&gt;.  Clearly they are trying to place a connection between the juice and the medicine.  Here&#039;s a test, do you see an article of similar nature on Ocean Spray or Welch&#039;s website?  Nope.

You say that MonaVie disciplines distributors making false claims.  Well that turns out be a lie.  They pretend like they do, but they don&#039;t.  How do I know?  I put them to the test.  Researchers here found Mitch Biggs, one of the top 166 MonaVie distributors according to their IDS, illegally marketing MonaVie as a cure for swine flu.  I sent a letter to MonaVie about it, and they had him take down the offending material.  Mitch Biggs was still allowed to distribute juice and collect checks from was likely years of illegal activity.  Read about hit here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juicescam.com/mitch-biggs-monavie/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mitch Biggs Scams People and MonaVie Condones It&lt;/a&gt;.

Mitch Biggs is still with MonaVie.  Check out his Twitter: http://twitter.com/RetireEarly which points to his blog: http://moneylosingweight.weebly.com/.  He&#039;s moved on to promoting MonaVie&#039;s RVL product.  Here&#039;s his article about it: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6036670/weight_loss_system_that_pays_you_money.html?cat=51.  Here&#039;s quite an interesting quote, &quot;Since you are replacing meals, often you are saving money you would normally spend at a restaurant so there is no appreciable added cost to try the system.&quot;  The RVL system is so expensive that half of the distributors complained on MonaVie&#039;s website when it was launched.  I have screenshots of MonaVie censoring the comments (the before and after).  They are in the comments at: http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/.

Joseph Martin said,  &quot;Also, the Men’s Journal study was not a good study at all.&quot;

Why do you say so, it&#039;s completely unbiased with a reputable nutrition expert.  This one of the only independent studies on MonaVie out there.  The rest are done by MonaVie&#039;s advisor Alex Schauss.  I&#039;ve dissected many of those on this site and clearly they are hogwash.  Any 5th grader that took the time to look at them would agree.

I love the Red Sox, but it seems like Papelbon lost his MonaVie last year ;-).  Anyway celebrity endorsements don&#039;t mean anything.  There are all sorts of them for other juice companies.  Ronnie from The Jersey Shore is in a commercial for Xenedrine.  I guess we can conclude that it must be awesome, because clearly the Jersey Shore people are brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>MonaVie does not openly claim that it&#8217;s product cures Cancer because that would be illegal.  Dallin Larsen learned from his last company, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Tongan_Limu" rel="nofollow">Royal Tongan Limu</a> that means you get shut down quickly.  So with MonaVie, he&#8217;s making it clear through all written and published communication that MonaVie doesn&#8217;t cure cancer.  This doesn&#8217;t prevent people from spreading &#8220;testimonies&#8221; through their downline.  It is quite miraculous that numerous distributors make numerous medical claims.  If you want to see some examples look at the comment archive on my other website: <a href="http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/</a>.</p>
<p>Or better yet, you can look at <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/" rel="nofollow">Lou Niles</a> who was dressed up in scrubs claiming that he was a cancer expert: <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/" rel="nofollow">http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/</a>.  (The videos may be down now, but you can usually find them on YouTube).  Lou Niles was being paraded around as a cancer doctor by a top ranking MonaVie distributor.  Of course Lou Niles has no oncology experience at all and is not a medical doctor.</p>
<p>And MonaVie corporate isn&#8217;t much better.  While it&#8217;s not cancer, <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-corporate-attributes-coma-brain-injury-recovery-to-monavie/" rel="nofollow">MonaVie Corporate Attributes Coma Brain Injury Recovery to Monavie</a>.  Clearly they are trying to place a connection between the juice and the medicine.  Here&#8217;s a test, do you see an article of similar nature on Ocean Spray or Welch&#8217;s website?  Nope.</p>
<p>You say that MonaVie disciplines distributors making false claims.  Well that turns out be a lie.  They pretend like they do, but they don&#8217;t.  How do I know?  I put them to the test.  Researchers here found Mitch Biggs, one of the top 166 MonaVie distributors according to their IDS, illegally marketing MonaVie as a cure for swine flu.  I sent a letter to MonaVie about it, and they had him take down the offending material.  Mitch Biggs was still allowed to distribute juice and collect checks from was likely years of illegal activity.  Read about hit here: <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/mitch-biggs-monavie/" rel="nofollow">Mitch Biggs Scams People and MonaVie Condones It</a>.</p>
<p>Mitch Biggs is still with MonaVie.  Check out his Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/RetireEarly" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/RetireEarly</a> which points to his blog: <a href="http://moneylosingweight.weebly.com/" rel="nofollow">http://moneylosingweight.weebly.com/</a>.  He&#8217;s moved on to promoting MonaVie&#8217;s RVL product.  Here&#8217;s his article about it: <a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6036670/weight_loss_system_that_pays_you_money.html?cat=51" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6036670/weight_loss_system_that_pays_you_money.html?cat=51</a>.  Here&#8217;s quite an interesting quote, &#8220;Since you are replacing meals, often you are saving money you would normally spend at a restaurant so there is no appreciable added cost to try the system.&#8221;  The RVL system is so expensive that half of the distributors complained on MonaVie&#8217;s website when it was launched.  I have screenshots of MonaVie censoring the comments (the before and after).  They are in the comments at: <a href="http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/</a>.</p>
<p>Joseph Martin said,  &#8220;Also, the Men’s Journal study was not a good study at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you say so, it&#8217;s completely unbiased with a reputable nutrition expert.  This one of the only independent studies on MonaVie out there.  The rest are done by MonaVie&#8217;s advisor Alex Schauss.  I&#8217;ve dissected many of those on this site and clearly they are hogwash.  Any 5th grader that took the time to look at them would agree.</p>
<p>I love the Red Sox, but it seems like Papelbon lost his MonaVie last year ;-).  Anyway celebrity endorsements don&#8217;t mean anything.  There are all sorts of them for other juice companies.  Ronnie from The Jersey Shore is in a commercial for Xenedrine.  I guess we can conclude that it must be awesome, because clearly the Jersey Shore people are brilliant.</p>
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