Men’s Journal Proves MonaVie Lacks Nutrition

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MonaVie touts it’s 19 different fruits and it’s star ingredient, the acai berry, every chance it gets. Is one to assume that makes for a super-juice? MonaVie would have you think so. However, rather than take MonaVie’s highly biased word for it, why not have an independent 3rd party test it? Well that’s exactly what Men’s Journal did.

Men’s Journal commissioned independent (i.e. non-biased) lab ChromaDex to test various fruit juices. Miriam Pappo, director of clinical nutrition at Montefiore Medical Center in New York, says that there are four things to look for in a juice:

  • Phenolic Acids – To help prevent cancer
  • Anthocyanins – To prevent aging
  • Vitamin C – To aid in healing wounds
  • Beta-carotene – To boost the immune system

Given that, Men’s Journal had 8 juices tested:

Juice Phenolic Acids Anthocyanins Vitamin C Beta-carotene Cost
Bolthouse Farms Purple Carrot No Mention 162mg most of all No Mention No Mention $1.25/serving
Vemma “Sky-high” “only juice with beta-carotene” $1.88/serving
Tropicana Orange Juice “fair levels” “Superhigh” $0.75/serving
Welch’s Grape Juice highest of all juices tested “good levels” “good levels” $0.75/serving
AgroLabs Superberry Upgrade “moderate levels” “moderate levels” $0.84/serving
Naked Pomegranate Blueberry “2nd of juices” “4th of juices” $1.25/serving
MonaVie Active “extremely low” “extremely low” 1/5 of Welch’s $1.20/serving
Kagome Purple Roots & Fruits “high” “okay” none detected none detected $0.94/serving

Conclusion: Looking at this table, it seems pretty clear to me that Welch’s Grape juice is the only juice with 3 good levels or better. At 75 cents a serving it is also the cheapest. MonaVie on the other hand scored poorly in all four criteria. It’s another example of how you can get more for your money by skipping MonaVie and going with a traditional juice.

Originally posted 2009-09-16 21:16:49. Republished by Blog Post Promoter

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142 Responses to “Men’s Journal Proves MonaVie Lacks Nutrition”
  1. humberto Says:

    Alright,

    I’m gonna give it a shot. I bought two cases as I thought one bottle would not be enough to validate either way. My buddy truly believes it has changed him for the better. Well, I can surely tell as he looks like he has lost a few pounds and is looking healthy nowadays. At the end of the day, no amount of studies done by 2nd or 3rd parties can tell me how I feel or not feel on a daily basis. I will post with an update in 30 days. I told my buddy if I thought the product was BS I would call him out.

  2. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Tom, I read the abstract In Food Chemistry magazine.

    I noticed that you “accidently” left out a key point from the article. It lists the ORAC value from acai pulp (the pulp may or may not even be what is used in MonaVie) as varying from 1420 to 14800 umole TE/gm.

    This is important, because it can give us a rough idea of how much acai is even in the product.

    MonaVie’s ORAC is valued at 22.81 umole TE/gm. (AIBMR). So, diluting the acai down with water and other ingredients, you’ve gone from 1420 or 14800 down to a mere 22.81!

    The anthocyanin level drops from 3.19 to 0.177 mg/gm. (Schauss/AIBMR)

    Just using these two values, we know that what little acai may be in the product, contributes almost nothing to MonaVie’s nutritional profile.

    Again, I’ll use this simple analogy: Throwing an orange into a swimming pool isn’t going to give you orange juice.

  3. Tom Says:

    I expected more from you than just pointing out what you already heralded over and over again, and built pointless hypotheses regarding MV.

    The study from Food Chemistry points out that there is much more to acai than just ORAC score and that other things contribute to the anti-oxidant capacity of acai – apparently you have nothing to say on the fact that flavonoids and flavonols of acai are considered biological response modifiers that are of great interest to scientists. You did not comment on the difficulty to measure true anti-oxidant capacity of acai with existing measuring techniques which was the basis for the worthless from scientific point of view juice test for Men’s Health Journal report.

    You live in the past – hang on to the study which was done in 2006, and accept no new findings on the acai that pushed the boundries of what we know much further.

    By the way, you point out the study that has shown without a doubt that MV Active has:
    1) increased antioxidant activity in the blood,
    2) increased levels of antioxidant compounds enterig cells during oxidative stress,
    3) over 90% of subjects had significantly reduced lipid peroxidation in serum within 2 hours compared to placebo.
    [Editor’s Note: The scientific value of this study has now been debunked here: http://www.juicescam.com/alex-schauss-placebo-controled-study-monavie/. There’s a lot more to say on that, but I welcome discussion of the study there.]

    Show me similar study that shows in vivo efficacy of Golden Delicious apple then I would agree that apple has similar benefits for humans. Otherwise do not spread stupidity and ignorance.

  4. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Tom we keep pointing out the same heralded point over and over again, because you miss the straight math that proves why your acai studies are pointless. There’s little acai in MonaVie.

    It doesn’t matter if ORAC is important or not… it is something that can be measured consistently with regard to acai and MonaVie. If acai ranks really high and MonaVie ranks really low, there’s not much acai. Tom says he has an MBA… I guess he can’t figure out it doesn’t matter if one holding in his portfolio has a 10,000% return (really good), if his overall portfolio’s return is 3%. As an MBA he should know that means that one holding with the 10,000% return is a very small part of his portfolio. He’s trying to wash this issue under the table as a pointless hypothesis, because he knows it’s true and he can’t argue the point. The burden of proof is on MonaVie showing a study that justifies its premium price over other forms of antioxidants such as other juices, eating a variety of fruit, and taking multivitamins. They notably prevented all subjects from having any antioxidants in their diet to create an unnatural deficient that is not representative of MonaVie’s customer-base (people interested in their health)

    Tom it is HUGE lie that the studied showed without a doubt any of those things that you mentioned above. Read the studies conclusions where they say there are doubts (i.e. paraphrasing, but “more studies need to be conducted” – ones that were never conducted) and that fruit in general would have similar benefits (that’s your apple theory for you right there).

  5. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Look at it this way, Tom. If I were to hand you a bottle of Dasani bottled water, then rave on about the virtues of blueberries, would you be impressed? No, because Dasani doesn’t contain blueberries.

    We use the ORAC only as a method to determine the acai profile of MonaVie. Acai has a high ORAC. MonaVie has a very low ORAC. Conclusion: MonaVie contains very little acai.

    It doesn’t take a MBA to see the obvious.

  6. Tom Says:

    Based on the label info in UK – it is clearly said there is 25% acai in the bottle of ACTIVE – Food Tech also said that he accepts that ORAC values of acai can differ –

    Everybody who drinks MV noticed that often taste and content varies. This is normal with products biologically active. Wines vary in taste too based on the harvest place and type of grape used.

    So why don’t you accept that ORAC values of MV vary too? Go and do another test or stop refering to the one from 2006 as something set in stone.

  7. Food Tech in CA Says:

    The label says acai (25%) which is an unclear declaration. 25% of which portion of the plant? The fruit is the portion with the nutrients. Vogel has demonstrated that MonaVie buys low-grade acai puree (12% or less solids). So, as someone that knows little about juice blending and ingredient statements, you can be forgiven for accepting the statement as fact.

    I can tell you, with absolute certainty that MonaVie does not contain anywhere near 25% acai.

    Taking the lowest ORAC given for acai (1420 umoles) and not taking into account all of the other ingredients with lower ORACs, use your MBA skills and tell me, what is 25% of 1420?

    A lot higher than 22.81 umoles, isn’t it?

    The ORAC will vary somewhat between tests. (+ – 15% would not be unusual). This is still well within the range of AIBMR’s tests (Dr. Schauss). The 2006 testing you mention, was actually 2008 (Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2008, Vol. 56, 8326 to 8333)

    You need to be more accurate with your citations if you wish to have credibility here.

    The tastes and contents vary on MonaVie due to poor ingredient procurement standards, and poor quality assurance procedures.

    MonaVie is not a wine. It is a fruit punch. It should always taste the same. There are many multi-ingredient juices that are always consistent. MonaVie is nothing more than a marketing tool. The standards and quality is exceptionally low.

    I would recommend that you have another test run if you doubt Dr. Schauss’s findings. I’m not the one questioning MonaVie’s ORAC. You are.

  8. Tom Says:

    Why don’t you say anything about biological response modifiers? You have no clue?

    Why don’t you answer the following questions I posted earlier:
    1) do you have any studies to show in vivo anti-oxidant capacity of your famous apples? [Editor’s Note: Tom has no relevant studies on MonaVie either. The closest one is this obviously flawed one The Multitude of Problems with Schauss’ “Double-Blinded, Placebo-Controlled Study” on MonaVie.]
    2) is it possible that MV ORAC varies based on what you noticed regarding variability of acai ORAC values?
    3) what are your comments about cell-based assays that were done in that Food Technology study?
    4) can you say with any degree of certainty that study done by ChromaDex for Men’s Health Journal is not biased given the company interest promoting its own ingredient found in grapes, and inadequate measuring techniques for antioxidant capacity of acai given the biological activity of acai?
    5) As you appear to be main food technology expert for MonaVie Scam could you provide your own credentials?

    Vogel did not prove anything regarding MV’s purchasing lower grade acai puree – Earth Fruit is owned by MV as is able to produce high quality products, including freeze-dried powder both organic and conventional, frozen acai pulp – Bella Iasa is also state-of-art producer of acai. Why would MV need to buy something lower quality – just because you say so? If you say to save cost you are bullshitting – The cost od product is not that high even with the freeze-drying process which adds most to the cost.

  9. Tom Says:

    By the way you are making the bold claims here:

    * Phenolic Acids – To help prevent cancer
    * Anthocyanins – To prevent aging
    * Vitamin C – To aid in healing wounds
    * Beta-carotene – To boost the immune system

    What makes you so special to make these kind of health claims?

  10. Food Tech in CA Says:

    First, I am not the “main food technology expert” for MonaVie scam. I offer my expertise in the area that I am qualified. That is food science. I have a MS in Food Science from UC Davis, in California. I have worked as a food scientist, in varying degrees for over 30 years. Five of those years in a fruit juice production plant.

    You seem to be having trouble grasping the issue of discussion here. It’s not the antioxidant bioavailability of acai. It’s the question: How much, if any, acai is in MonaVie?

    Without doing a complete profile on acai and HPLC analysis, which is pointless, all we need to do is look at what has already been tested. ORAC, which is documented in the acai freeze-dried powder and in the pulp (not the puree), and anthocyanins, the major polyphenol found in acai.

    As I’ve pointed out numerous times already, if you start off with a high ORAC and anthocyanin level in the acai, but analysis shows low ORAC and anthocyanin levels in the finished product (MonaVie), the conclusion is quite simple. The acai has been diluted by water and other ingredients so much, as to be considered negligible in the product nutritional profile.

    Either, you have some type of comprehension issue, or you are just trying to blow smoke to cover what’s obvious to rational readers of this forum.

    You need to deal with the simple points I have made before attempting to rave about the benefits of acai. Until you do so, anything you bring up acai-related becomes a moot point.

  11. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Tom writes: “By the way you are making the bold claims here:

    * Phenolic Acids – To help prevent cancer
    * Anthocyanins – To prevent aging
    * Vitamin C – To aid in healing wounds
    * Beta-carotene – To boost the immune system

    What makes you so special to make these kind of health claims?”

    I don’t make these claims. These were part of the Men’s Journal article, and were from Miriam Pappo, Director of Clinical Nutrition at Montefiore Medical Center.

    Please refer questions to this individual.

  12. Tom Says:

    In my opinion, what makes fruit nutritious to our body is not just the amount of polyphenols found in fruit but in vivo anti-oxidant activity that fruit has. As anti-oxidants we need are only found in plants so we need to make sure that we eat these fruits that give us the best leverage and in cell activity.

    However, perhaps some of the points you made about how low MV tested in certain tests prompted MV product management to work harder to bring some changes. MV came up with reformulated formula that should help alleviate some of the concerns you and other people expressed here.

    From the website of reformulated MV Original:

    “THE PREMIER AÇAI BLEND®

    Now fortified with new superfruits, beneficial fiber, and key vitamins A, C, and E, MonaVie Essential is a delicious blend of body-beneficial fruits and is designed to nourish your body with powerful antioxidants and nutrients.

    AçaVie is an antioxidant packed ingredient that combines our patented açai and juçara freeze-dried powder and puree with Enlivenoxâ„¢, a proprietary açai compound boasting 10 times more polyphenols than traditional açai.”

    So, here is the answer to your crying – are you happy? And learn something about biological response modifiers as your old testing methods are not adequate for products containing acai.

  13. Food Tech in CA Says:

    Tom, you are a marketing departments dream. Anything they write must be factual, right?

    Think for yourself. Look at what they wrote. Is there really anything new? Of course not!! If they’ve reformulated the product, and it now has an improved nutritional profile, then prove it. Either, the company or some of the distributors should pay and have a simple analysis done for ORAC, total phenolics (polyphenols) and anthocyanins.

    If the documented analysis shows a dramatic increase in one, or all of the tests, then I will be the first one to verify it.

    However, to read some marketing nonsense, and expect us to believe that MonaVie is now some super juice, borders on the idiotic.

    Supply the scientific validation. If it doesn’t exist, then we default to the last known studies and/or analysis.

    That’s part of the scientific peer-review process, my friend. Deal with it.

  14. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    I’m beginning to think that Tom has feathers and is fed crackers – particularly considering his inability to present any type of argument outside of what is provided within Monavie literature or beyond parroting what Monavie have taught him…

  15. Vogel Says:

    Tom, you are a shining example of the type of vapid idiots who are involved with Monavie. Your purpose here is to taunt and disrupt, nothing more. You’d have my pity if you weren’t such an a contemptible a-hole.

  16. Plane Jane Says:

    My husband’s Monavie dealer says it costs $4.00 per day for the recommended 4 ounces. But the cost is $35.00 for a 25.35 oz. bottle. That calculates to $5.52 per day. So far his only noticeable result is diarrhea. So I don’t know how “Men’s Journal” figured that MonaVie cost $1.20 per serving. My Welch’s Grape Juice from concentrate only costs about half that reported in the “Men’s Journal,” $.30. So the report is as questionable as the Monavie claims. I’m still looking for meaningful info on Monavie. At any rate Monavie costs way too much.

  17. MonaVie Scam Says:

    MonaVie’s serving size is one ounce… they recommend 4 servings a day. $1.20 times 4 is $4.80…. pretty close to the $5.52 price… differences could be because MonaVie has various prices (usually $37 or $45, not $35)… based on the amount you buy and how you buy.

    The fact that you only pay half of the amount that Men’s Journal recommends for a serving of Welch’s grape juice makes it a larger argument against MonaVie.

  18. bob Says:

    I’m not an endorser nor a hardcore skeptic when it comes to anything new I hear about (including MonaVie); I just read as many reviews, stories, pros and cons as possible, so as to build my own personal opinion/choice.

    That said, the results of this survey don’t seem very scientific, nor do they mean much to me. Shouldn’t amounts or percentages be used to express how much of something is present, instead of phrases like “extremely-low,” “sky-high” or “okay? What the hell do they MEAN?!

  19. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Bob,

    I’d note that this wasn’t a “survey”, but a scientific study conducted by a reputable independent lab. I understand that you may want percentages, but you have to keep in mind that this is sponsored by Men’s Journal. The writing isn’t intended for scientists, but for people of all walks of life interested in being healthy in general. For those people, percentages would make for extremely boring reading. The intended audience (actually even people four years or older), know what the phrases “extremely-low”, “sky-high”, or “okay” mean – especially in a comparison which is what this article is presenting. If you don’t know what they mean, I’d consult a dictionary. They are a tremendous helpful resource when you don’t understand the meaning of words.

  20. bob Says:

    MonaVie Scam,

    Wow, what a sarcastic ass you are!!

    Yeah, I have one of those dictionary things; I even understand how marketing to targeted audiences works (*gasp* imagine that).

    My point is these results are not data and the study mean nothing to me in the quest for truth. (Also the reason why I unconsciously used the ‘survey’ in place of ‘study.’)

  21. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    Bob states “My point is these results are not data and the study mean nothing to me in the quest for truth. (Also the reason why I unconsciously used the ‘survey’ in place of ‘study.’)”

    It doesn’t take much to see that when a direct comparison is made with the more inexpensive fruit juices which are readily available at your local convenience store, Monavie clearly fails the test – both nutritionally and in terms of value.

    You will note that the study states specifically that Monavie has 1/5 of the vitamin C that Welch’s Grape Juice does. Welch’s grape juice also out performs Monavie in phenolics also.

    You will also note that Bolthouse Farm Purple Carrot contains 162mg of anthocyanins which was the highest of all of the juices tested. Monavie, by direct comparison, tested “extremely low”.

    If you’re not satisfied with that, you could also refer to Dr Schauss’ own study which confirms a days serving of Monavie has an ORAC of 2698 and phenolics totalling 175mg. By direct comparison, a days serving of Monavie has less than half the nutritional content of an average red delicious apple. That’s if you’re prepared to overlook the issue of Monavie being preserved with the chemical preservative sodium benzoate, of course.
    http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-vs-an-apple/

    Or why don’t you simple read the nutritional information from Monavie’s own website which confirms Monavie Original and Active offer a daily value of 2% vitamin C, 2% iron and 1% carbohydrates and Pulse offers 3% carbohydrates, 2% fat, 1% fibre, 4% vitamin A and 2% iron.
    http://www.blackdiamonduniversity.com/pdf/monavie-products.pdf
    http://www.blackdiamonduniversity.com/training-MonaVie-Pulse-facts.asp

    That Monavie lacks nutrition has been proven unequivocally – but whether it is your preference to ignore the evidence as it stands (clearly this wouldn’t fit into your agenda) is perhaps another issue entirely…

  22. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Bob, I delivered the sarcasm that your original post deserved. I understand that you were looking for specifics about the data, but when you ask what commonly used English terms mean, you insulted every reader’s intelligence here.

    If these these results don’t mean anything to you, you are alone on that island. If I were to say that the Yankees have the best record in baseball, and that Pittsburgh has an extremely low amount of wins, you’d understand that the Yankees are better than Pittsburgh. If I were to say that Boston’s team ERA this year was “okay” you’d know that it was probably close to average… not good enough to be considered good and not bad enough to be considered poor. If I were to say that Toronto has a sky-high amount of homeruns, you’d get the idea that they are heads and shoulders above the competition. Oops I shouldn’t have said “heads and shoulders” because you’ll want me to define that as well.

    If I gave you all that information about this years Major League Baseball situation, you’d get some valuable information. Choosing to ignore this valuable information simply makes you more ignorant. That’s exactly what MonaVie and their distributors want… That’s why MonaVie tried to censor me and why others try to blackmail me into taking down my information. Bob, you are welcome to stay ignorant, that is your choice, but as I said previously, I’m pretty sure you are alone on that island.

  23. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Please see the Wikipedia article about Enron:

    “Before its bankruptcy in late 2001, Enron employed approximately 22,000[1] staff and was one of the world’s leading electricity, natural gas, communications and pulp and paper companies, with claimed revenues of nearly $101 billion in 2000.”

    Enron was clearly a scam… something that no one today denies… and it had 101 billion dollars. It’s worth noting that those sales are all to external customers. MonaVie sells most of it’s product to it’s own sales force, because they present a “business opportunity” to that sales force. The company is not making 2 billion or even 1 billion sales outside of its sales force: Is MonaVie the Fastest Company to $1 Billion Dollars in Revenue?.

    If MonaVie could sell to the general public, they’d put their product in front of the general public… on store shelves. They can’t sell their product to people without making them buy it as a ticket to financial freedom. If you think I’m wrong, then challenge MonaVie to put their products in stores across the nation so we can see if anyone decides to pay $45 for juice.

  24. Rasheed Says:

    Food Tech: I’m currently pursuing my BS in Chem Engineering at UC Davis. Go aggies!

    Anyway, I think what everyone needs to to, myself included, is read.

    There is a TON of information on the Internet. Some are false, some are correct. In order to verify the validity of information, find out the origin of the information.

    Most, if not all, of MonaVie’s scientific claims come from MonaVie affiliates. I.e. they benefit from promoting MonaVie in some way. Some may say, “MonaVie is on the news!!” But where does the news get its information? Probably from MonaVie’s website.

    Most, if not all, of scientific claims against MonaVie, come from many many different sources. Third party sources that have no ulterior motive. It’s not like they’re trying to sell you a different juice. They’re trying to expose the truth of MonaVie. What nice people, trying to protect people from a scam, right?

    Not only that, but MonaVie’s distributors are clearly ignorant of the truth, and will claim things that even MonaVie says not to claim–on paper. In reality, MonaVie loves claims of the juice curing cancer, being 5-7 servings of fruits & veggies, being a miracle product, etc. How do we know this? Well, I’ve never seen anyone called out for making false/illegal claims. And these people are big-time MonaVie distributors, making it to the Emerald level and above.

    I was a MonaVie distributor. So I know how you feel. I felt the same way. Here’s what I found. I wanted an extra income. Who doesn’t? But I had a real drive of an extra income–I want to retire my parents for all they’ve done for me. That’s a pretty strong purpose. And I had a lot of drive. So I was out there, fired up, buying tons of tools, going to meetings, bringing friends, etc…

    But then after looking into MonaVie after hearing it cures cancer, I found that most, if not all, health claims about MonaVie were bogus. I’m not even talking nutrition-wise. I’m talking about the miracle properties MonaVie supposedly has! Biological response modifiers be damned.

    I’m here to help. Not to advertise. Not to spread propaganda. But to spread the truth. You want the truth to be spread too, right? Then why not find out the truth so you can spread it? And not spread unverified and even illegal claims?

  25. Tom Zychowski Says:

    It’s too expensive and without any real merit to their health claims. Not supported by evidence to their claims. Another snake potion sold to the desperate and the gullible. It’s sad scams like this should be stopped before real harm is done.

  26. Daniel Moore Says:

    My problem with this article is that Monavie is great for anti-oxidants and many other vitamins. This table is based on only three components that Monavie is bad at. This feels a little biased.

  27. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Daniel Moore,

    I don’t see any bias. The methodology of the components was quite clear in the article: “Miriam Pappo, director of clinical nutrition at Montefiore Medical Center in New York, says that there are four things to look for in a juice:”

    Now you erroneous claim that MonaVie is great for anti-oxidants and many other vitamins. MonaVie is very bad at just about every vitamin: http://static.lazymanandmoney.com/MonaVie.jpg. It’s so bad that MonaVie had to fortify it, essentially making it almost half as good as talking a multivitamin. The study measured Phenolic Acids, Anthocyanins, Vitamin C – all antioxidants and MonaVie was extremely low in all of them. Which anti-oxidants, specifically, do you think that MonaVie rated high on?

  28. Anonymous Aussie Says:

    I can’t even fathom what literature even exists for Daniel to have come to such a conclusion.

    Perhaps he’d like to submit the links and provide a summary of the data in support of same? Surely there’s some basis for his opinion..

  29. Danny Says:

    It seems Monavie is still high demand in South Asia. How do I broadcast the juicescam site to the people when I come across thier emails from someone else? Sometimes they may not aware of the link.

  30. Vogel Says:

    I would expect that this is nothing more than an illusion. I don’t think Monavie is in high demand anywhere, least of all South Asia.

  31. Joseph Martin Says:

    I believe many of the statements posted throughout this forum are highly inaccurate. For one thing, MonaVie does not claim that any of its products “cures” cancer or any other disease. They point out to distributors that they will be penalized and possibly have their distributorship terminated if they claim that MonaVie products cures cancer, etc. To say that MonaVie “likes it” when their distributors make false claims about its health benefits is misleading. I challenge anyone here to find an official MonaVie document or video on its website that says MonaVie cures cancer. Sorry, but you won’t find it. If you come across a distributor who is making false claims then please report them immediately to MonaVie. Believe me, they will be dealt with by MonaVie’s representatives. MonaVie complies with Federal law and with local and federal health agencies. MonaVie is a law-abiding company that does not make outrageous claims. They will say that their products improve health and fight against disease but Welch’s grape juice also makes these same claims! Again, read their official documents and videos and not what secondary or tertiary sources say. Also, the Men’s Journal study was not a good study at all. At least MonaVie’s studies are based on “inside and outside” the body clinical tests. No, MonaVie is not a scam. It has over 30 distributors at the top ranks bringing in over $1.4 million dollars every year and it is endorsed by active and retired professional athletes like Jonathan Papelbon of the Boston Red Sox. (see what he has to say about MonaVie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09hMVoXbPYg)

  32. Joseph Martin Says:

    The bottom line is that there are a lot of people who benefit from MonaVie products. It makes them feel better and there is nothing wrong with a product that makes people feel better about their health. If you want to attack a company then what about the soda companies? I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?” That is why started drinking only nutritional, health drinks and my health has greatly improved thanks to companies like MonaVie.

  33. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Joseph,

    MonaVie does not openly claim that it’s product cures Cancer because that would be illegal. Dallin Larsen learned from his last company, Royal Tongan Limu that means you get shut down quickly. So with MonaVie, he’s making it clear through all written and published communication that MonaVie doesn’t cure cancer. This doesn’t prevent people from spreading “testimonies” through their downline. It is quite miraculous that numerous distributors make numerous medical claims. If you want to see some examples look at the comment archive on my other website: http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/.

    Or better yet, you can look at Lou Niles who was dressed up in scrubs claiming that he was a cancer expert: http://www.juicescam.com/dr-louis-niles-and-his-illegal-medicinal-claims/. (The videos may be down now, but you can usually find them on YouTube). Lou Niles was being paraded around as a cancer doctor by a top ranking MonaVie distributor. Of course Lou Niles has no oncology experience at all and is not a medical doctor.

    And MonaVie corporate isn’t much better. While it’s not cancer, MonaVie Corporate Attributes Coma Brain Injury Recovery to Monavie. Clearly they are trying to place a connection between the juice and the medicine. Here’s a test, do you see an article of similar nature on Ocean Spray or Welch’s website? Nope.

    You say that MonaVie disciplines distributors making false claims. Well that turns out be a lie. They pretend like they do, but they don’t. How do I know? I put them to the test. Researchers here found Mitch Biggs, one of the top 166 MonaVie distributors according to their IDS, illegally marketing MonaVie as a cure for swine flu. I sent a letter to MonaVie about it, and they had him take down the offending material. Mitch Biggs was still allowed to distribute juice and collect checks from was likely years of illegal activity. Read about hit here: Mitch Biggs Scams People and MonaVie Condones It.

    Mitch Biggs is still with MonaVie. Check out his Twitter: http://twitter.com/RetireEarly which points to his blog: http://moneylosingweight.weebly.com/. He’s moved on to promoting MonaVie’s RVL product. Here’s his article about it: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6036670/weight_loss_system_that_pays_you_money.html?cat=51. Here’s quite an interesting quote, “Since you are replacing meals, often you are saving money you would normally spend at a restaurant so there is no appreciable added cost to try the system.” The RVL system is so expensive that half of the distributors complained on MonaVie’s website when it was launched. I have screenshots of MonaVie censoring the comments (the before and after). They are in the comments at: http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/.

    Joseph Martin said, “Also, the Men’s Journal study was not a good study at all.”

    Why do you say so, it’s completely unbiased with a reputable nutrition expert. This one of the only independent studies on MonaVie out there. The rest are done by MonaVie’s advisor Alex Schauss. I’ve dissected many of those on this site and clearly they are hogwash. Any 5th grader that took the time to look at them would agree.

    I love the Red Sox, but it seems like Papelbon lost his MonaVie last year ;-). Anyway celebrity endorsements don’t mean anything. There are all sorts of them for other juice companies. Ronnie from The Jersey Shore is in a commercial for Xenedrine. I guess we can conclude that it must be awesome, because clearly the Jersey Shore people are brilliant.

  34. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Joseph Martin said, “The bottom line is that there are a lot of people who benefit from MonaVie products. It makes them feel better and there is nothing wrong with a product that makes people feel better about their health.”

    There’s nothing wrong with MonaVie? This website (and the sister website mentioned above) has provided tons of irrefutable evidence supported by reputable third parties that MonaVie is a grossly overpriced product, with little nutritional value, wrapped in a poor business opportunity that is an illegal pyramid scheme, which is itself wrapped in illegal medical claims, supported by nonsensical “scientific” studies, and tied to a fraudulent charity.

    How much worse can a product get?

    Joseph Martin said, “If you want to attack a company then what about the soda companies? I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?” That is why started drinking only nutritional, health drinks and my health has greatly improved thanks to companies like MonaVie.”

    Soda does what it claims to do. It quenches thirst at a reasonable price compared to it’s competitors. I don’t know a soda company out there making any illegal health claims or well, any of the things that I mentioned above. Before you mention anything about Coke, you should probably read this website in more detail. I wrote an article specifically addressing that point MonaVie, Secret Formulas, and Coca-Cola.

  35. jim Says:

    Excellent evaluation and response Monavie Scam. It appears to consistantly be the same corporate propaganda which has already been disproven being brought forward time and time again as if it is some new revelation.

    I would like to briefly address one item Joseph Martin brought up, he said ” I stopped drinking Coke after I read a story about how Coke can remove rust. I tested it on my bike and, lo and behold, it removed all of the rust from my rims! I thought, “imagine what this does when we put this kind of soda in our bodies?””

    Urban legends and consipracy theories (not this example, but the FDA comes to mind) abound in Mona vie, critical thinking not so much. What makes Coke disolve rust is carbonic acid, which nearly all carbonated soft drinks contain. It works better if you just use carbonated water as you don’t have all the sugary residue. Joseph, do you now say that soda water is bad for you and question what it does to your body? If that’s the case, is it the carbon, the hydrogen or the oxygen that is harmful?
    http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid

  36. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Awesome point Jim. By the way, I just pulled this from the MonaVie EMV Lite FAQ:

    “Q: Why is MonaVie EMV lightly carbonated?”
    “A: We lightly carbonate MonaVie EMV to enhance the taste, flavor, and experience of drinking it. Sound research on the effects of carbonation shows it is very safe for consumption and that there are no negative effects on the body.”

    So how is this different than Coke?

  37. MadScientistMatt Says:

    Along the lines of Coke stripping rust, I wonder what sort of terrifying-looking demonstration one could come up with using MonaVie? A lot of natural foods tend to be corrosive, acidic, or otherwise very much chemically active. Maybe show it stripping the galvanized coating off a nail? I’ll bet MonaVie would take that zinc coating off and leave it rusted if you left it in there overnight.

    Which proves absolutely nothing about its health claims either way. Humans are not zinc-dipped.

  38. Mike B Says:

    Did you ever think Welch’s might be an Advertiser for this magazine…doh!

  39. MonaVie Scam Says:

    Mike B,

    Did you see that Men’s Journal had an independent lab do the testing?

  40. Mackwiz Says:

    “Did you ever think Welch’s might be an Advertiser for this magazine…doh!”

    You mean like how MonaVie pays off shills like Schauss and Lou Niles? If the independent lab that conducted the tests for Men’s Journal claimed that Welch’s cured back pain, maybe you’d have something. How you people trout all manner of conspiracy theories when the real conspiracy is right in your face…

  41. Carrie Says:

    I have one major concern about MonaVie. The acai berry is dehydrated and the others have been cooked and frozen (made into concentrate.) It is (or at least should be) well known that dehydrating, freezing, or heating fruit and vegetables in any way kills vitamins. So, how can fruit juices that are more than just squeezed fruit be better nutritionally than the actual fruit? Also, fruit and vegetable juices are all well and good, but the “meat” also holds nutritional value…even if we don’t normally eat that particular part of the fruit/vegetable (like watermelon rind.)

    That being said, if there is a choice between no fruits and Monavie, then the choice is Monavie. However, it is a lot cheaper to just go and buy a lot of fruits to snack upon!

  42. MonaVie Scam Says:

    You make some good points Carrie. However, I would add that if there’s a choice between MonaVie and another 100% juice, the other juice wins. This includes $3 juices from Ocean Spray and Welch’s.

    I appreciate your comments as always.

 
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