Men’s Journal Proves MonaVie Lacks Nutrition

Typical moronic drug company supporting doctor ….stupid & almost unbelievable. ” there are 4…(ONLY 4..? CRETIN !) things to look for in a drink ..That sums em all up . They just don’t have a clue & ovbviously dont realise what the word ’synergy’ implies ? Just as in life…the little things can make a big differnce . Its the whole package …ALL the contents that ‘work together ‘ harmoniously. Thats also how the body functions. Even though the medical profession try to break it down & treat things ‘Individually ‘ …..with drugs as always . Bottom line …if you want to know about nutrition go talk to someone healthy & active….sports person or their trainer/ coach etc. If you want to know about illness, sickness, disease, death & drugs…..talk to a doctor !

Tony, I forgot but MonaVie employs Dr. Alex Schauss who tries to show that MonaVie has nutrition. Why is MonaVie hiring doctors if they just know about “illness, sickness, disease, death & drugs”?

Well MonaVie Scam i also am not for MonaVie and i have family that works for them not as distributors but in corporate. I prefer real juice and a healthy meal once in a while over a bottle of monavie and i get it for free. But my comment is how stupid you sound. You speak about things you dont know at all and it would be fine if you didnt act like you know. You sound like someone who cant afford it and are pissed off at the company. Tony DeLacey is right. You are WRONG. They never had a nutritional doctor test the juice. They had a lab and they only checked for 4 things. There are 19 and everything works together. Its funny how this site and others say its a scam and when you read about it its just one persons pissed off opinion but they all admit it is healthy but just over priced. It is very nutritional and there are more happy then non happy customers by far and plenty of other 3rd party tests so instead of trying to sound smart and say its a scam because it wasnt tested by a nutritionist find something to talk about that you actualy know about. Its juice, Grow up

Instead of listening to this idiot if anyone has questions just go to MonaVie.com. While your there look under PRODUCT, THE SCIENCE, MonaVie Scientific Advisory Board. I would Listen to them over this guy sitting in his moms basement trying to find shit to cry about. [Editor's Note: Yes look at how the MonaVie Scientific Advisory Board has shown that MonaVie lies about the ORAC value.]

Did you look at there website? MonaVie doesnt run the More Project. Read the label of this forum. You say it lacks nutrition yet it does have every one of them. Dont forget they only tested active which is mainly for joints. But you should know this right? Do you even know how many juices monaVie has out. They have different purposes. Your trying to tell people to drink Welches Grape juice over MonaVie. Its funny that MonaVie active has

Wow, Chase, you are all over the place, and are rather incoherent at times in your comments.
You do seem awfully defensive for someone who “is not for MonaVie”, and you seem to have a good amount of information about MonaVie juice. It would appear that you have not been completely forthright in stating your affiliation with MonaVie LLC.

LM, isn’t this the same typical ramblings we’ve seen before from MonaVie corporate people commenting here? They seem to like to refer to you as “someone sitting at a computer in a basement”. This is a very unoriginal comment. Me thinks we have a corporate lackey commenting here and pretending to be otherwise.

Chase, why would anyone want to believe someone’s research from their OWN company trying to make a profit? All honest companies who are proud of their products would be willing to have their product tested by a 3rd INDEPENDENT party.

My question is… if ALL those fruits are in there… where did all the vitamin C go?? If it is like drinking 13 fruits, did they remove it? I know many of the fruits listed ALL contain high levels of vitamin C. Strange that it only has 25% of your daily recommendation listed on the bottle.

The test clearly said at the bottom

“* All tests were conducted and approved by contract-testing laboratory ChromaDex. Test results may vary up to 15 percent.”

so lets take this into consideration!

hmmm your logic if failing again. if theres a 15% error in test results,, it means potentiall 30% difference. watch and learn.

monavie could have been 15% under cut
another drink could of had a 15% over cut
meaning a different in 30% points possible.

FAIL

Exactly… MonaVie could also have been 15% over and another drink 15% under cut. It’s very unlikely that ALL the other juices were under or overcut.

Let’s look at what was said by MonaVie.

Even if the tests were off by that percentage, you still have the fact that it was “extremely low in anthocyanins and phenolics.” Boosting that by 15% isn’t going to make it a good level. An extremely low number that’s off by 15% is still going to be extremely low. For example, if you make $1 an hour (an extremely low wage) a 15% improvement goes to $1.15 an hour… also an extremely low wage.

“Even apple juice (which also tested poorly) has more phenolics than this Utah-based company’s juice.”

So if we were to say that apple juice was 15% over and MonaVie was 15% under, we’d probably say that they’d have the same phenolics. Still the price between the two is a Grand Canyon sized chasm.

Lastly, we have “Plus, MonaVie’s vitamin C level was five times lower than that of Welch’s Grape Juice.” That’s a 500% difference. The 30% swing in either direction can’t make up for a 500% difference.

As you can see, the 15% difference doesn’t really amount to anything. And, of course, Dr. Schauss’ own testing backs up the results that we see here.

Well if MonaVie is not an ORAC drink why do they tout it in it’s FAQ? Why is MonaVie lying to inflate it’s ORAC score?

“It is precisely because MonaVie has 19 fruits that” it should stop talking about acai as being a super fruit as it’s diluting it. I can make a 19 fruit beverage from various V8 Fusion for just a few dollars and it will have actual vegetables too. (Aren’t vegetables good for you? Why aren’t they in MonaVie?)

The USDA food pyramid says to eat fruit… it does not say to drink fruit juice… MonaVie Product Specialists say THESE ARE NOT THE SAME.

Show me the value of MonaVie, and don’t talk about potential phytonutrients or number of published papers on them. No one is doubting them. The doubt is that MonaVie provides value for the dollar over the phytonutrients that in regular fruit, other fruit juices, and whether that’s proven to help a person more than simply taking a vitamin.

Here is your King v8 juice.

V8 Acai Mixed Berry Juice
Made by Campbell Soup Company
Ingredients
Reconstituted Vegetable Juice Blend (Water and Concentrated Juices of Purple Carrots, Carrots, Sweet Potatoes)Reconstituted Fruit Juice Blend (Water and Concentrated Juices of White Grapes, Apples, Acai, Blueberries, Limes)Less than 2% of the Following: Plant Sterols, Natural Flavoring, Lemon Juice Solids, Malic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Natural Flavoring (contains Malic Acid)Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate)
There sure is alot of water in there.
Acai is way down on the list also. Wow this is your King juice? Im sure you will come back with some logical post. It is so obvious that you are just Anti-Monavie.

You dont know what they reconstitute it with you are assuming. You know if you were to put this much time and energy in something more productive, like helping needy kids or the homeless and such you could do a great service. You act like people dont have enough since to make thier own decisions. This is a waste of time. Do something that makes a difference in the World. You wont bring Monavie down.

Rest of the Story wrote: “It is precisely because MonaVie has 19 fruits that it is more effective, more powerful, more balanced, than any single fruit product, or even the Acai mixed with chocolate.”

**You’re missing a very important part. The total amount of the product consumed is only 4 fluid ounces. You need to look at the total number of milligrams of each phytonutrient consumed. Looking at it from your perspective, a fruit juice with 20 fruits should be more nutritional than MonaVie.

4 TOTAL ounces is what you’re drinking. Adding additional fruits dilutes the contribution of the original fruits. So, unless you can produce any scientific analysis that shows 4 oz. of MonaVie contains X TOTAL number of a nutrient, your point is invalid.

Rest of the Story writes: “MonaVie is not and never was meant to be a vitamin supplement, nor a source of significant proteins or omega- 3 fatty acids.

We are not an ORAC drink either”

**Don’t forget that it’s not a good source of polyphenols either, especially the anthocyanins which at 0.095 mg/ml. is lower than red grape juice, which tested at 0.77 mg/ml. (Dietsche, et al). This confirms the low-level of acai, that is, unless MonaVie is using the portion of the plant that is expected to have low anthocyanin levels (stems, etc..). That is a possibility. Afterall, nowhere does it say acai puree needs to contain the anthocyanin-rich acai berry.

The FDA does not have a standard of identity regulation for acai puree, so any portion of the plant can be used.

This may be a clever way around the predominant ingredient label regulation.

That’s the best response you can form? Please, point out where I’ve lied.

Food Tech what are your credentials? Dr.Clayton is very qalified. What he says about Monavie (M)mun has scientific and medical proof. Food tech you could be a fake for all we know. The truth about Monavie could hit you and monaviescam in the face and you still would say it’s a lie. I am through with this you 2 are a waste of time.

Food Tech’s response was part of what I wanted to say… don’t kill the messenger if the message is on target. If you read what Food Tech has said here and other places on the Internet, you’d know that he’s very, very qualified. He’s shown his qualifications again and again… even on pro-MonaVie sites.

Dr. Clayton hasn’t addressed any of the topics here or any place that asks critical questions about MonaVie.

We don’t say that the truth is lie. We explain WHY it’s a lie. No one has come up with any reason why what we are saying are lies. It’s another form misinformation from a MonaVie distributor.

Lot’s of people pay attention to Amazon and they sell the same glasses for about the price – Oakley Men’s Pit Boss Sunglasses. That fact is that’s the price of fashion – it’s not a commentary on Men’s Journal. If you want cheap sunglasses, you can buy them for $10. I wouldn’t suggest paying $600 for glasses that can’t prove that they are better than the $10 variety. This is why I wouldn’t suggest paying $1500 a year for juice that can’t show it’s better than $75 a year juice. At least no one is fraudulently pitching that a fashion accessory can cure autism.

I didn’t say that Chromadex can’t be bought off. It’s just not likely. They are innocent until you can prove them guilty. I’m pretty sure that neither Chromadex nor Men’s Journal are going to risk their reputation. Plus, do you think that all the juices at http://www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial conspired against MonaVie? That’s really a crazy theory. And then MonaVie’s Dr. Schauss’ whitepapers back up the Men’s Journal and Chromadex study… so why do you doubt it again?

Dr. Edell has been running his nationally syndicated shows for how many years with no LSD Flashbacks? I’m pretty sure that you have to be pretty respected to be a syndicated doctor in 90 markets. Let me know when you have reached that level.

Looks like Chromadex is a competitor of Monavie
or has Customers that are.

http://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/Formulation-Science/Chromadex-plans-to-scale-up-anthocyanin-manufacturing-process

@ the rest of the story.

Have you ever stopped to consider why you are so over the top willing to trash every other company, every other individual, every other expert…to make insinuations about what their motives “may” be, to imply that they are doing something illegal or have been bought off…..but you are COMPLETELY unwilling to even consider the remote possibility that MonaVie LLC, their experts, and their representatives may be the parties that are truly guilty of what you’re insinuating about the other parties you mention?

What’s wrong with that picture?
You sound like a 5 year old child…..it is always someone else’s fault, someone else’s responsibility.

Grow up, get a clue, look around, face the facts.

The Emperor has no clothes.

The Rest of The Story,

You seem to have an issue with the Chromadex analysis. Why? Do you really think they’d risk their reputation over some fruit punch?

The analysis is corroborated by AIBMR’s (Dr. Schauss). Other, more antioxidant potent juices are found in the study by UCLA (Journal of Agricultural & Food Chemistry). Are they in your conspiracy, as well?

I suggest that you take one of the stacks of money that you made selling MonaVie, and pay for a simple analysis yourself.

So Carter, if you are 100% real, can you give us a 100% truthful answer and back it up with evidence, as to why a consumer should purchase MonaVie juice at anywhere between $29.00 and $45.00 USD a bottle? What makes it superior to say…Welch’s Concord Grape juice? Certainly the nutrition label on the Welch’s is 100% much more impressive than that on the MonaVie juice, and the price is much lower.

Sell me. I’m 100% really waiting.

Candace & lazyman,

Both well stated questions, I was in a car accident in college, a serious one. I have searched for many years to find the answer to my joint & back pain. The simple fact that did not have proper nutrition played a part in the pain I have had, the body is amazing and can repair many things if given the proper nutrition. It is diffcult for me to purchase a large selection of exotic fruit at my local store, Monavie is a simple way to get this into my system and it is liquid delivery, so it get’s into my body more than a pill form does.

There are other great products out there, I encourage everyone to take a closer look at how they eat. Also, I recommend that you watch “Food Inc” & “Food matters”. these two films hit me hard and I am working to better my health.

Why monavie over the other products, it is a simple answer for me, I am not able to earn money when I recommend someone drink welchers, they don’t pay me. Just like when I recommend a good resturant to a friend or a good mechanic, they don’t pay me. I just do it nautrally becuase I recommend things I find of value. I found monavie active of value, I recommend it to friends and co workers, if they find value then they drink it. I share with them the juice and the fact that if they share the juice with a few friends then they can earn enough money to get their juice for free. If they want to earn more money then that, well.. I can show them how.

I don’t know if Monavie is the best product out there, I don’t have a lab to test nor the money to run my own test yet. I just know what it has done for me and my body. And I know that I have helped folks, I have helped a couple earn enough money to pick up the slack after he lost his job.. they are able to stay in their home becuase of the juice.

If you want to look at the product only.. so be it, but there is more to it than just a berry in a bottle.

So Carter, what you’re saying to us is “I need money, so you should buy this fruit punch from me.” If there was something about MonaVie that justified the expense, I’d be inclined to help you out. There is not. IT’S A FRUIT PUNCH. That’s all.

What’s special about this product? Bring facts, not stories of Uncle Elmer’s gout.

Carter,

I think Food Tech also hit it right. You know how product-based pyramid scams work right? They over-charge people a lot and then give a small percentage back to people who promote the product. So what you basically saying here is that you don’t care if you are screwing everyone else over financially as long as you get some free juice.

You refuse to acknowledge that it could have been simply the glucosamine in MonaVie Active. You might want to review the information here:

“Glucosamine may be helpful for maintaining healthy joints*.

* The United States FDA has not reviewed these statements. Glucosamine has not been shown to treat any disease.”

Note that it says maintaining not repairing joints or backs. Also note it “may.”

As MonaVie M(mun) speaker “Doctor” Clayton said on this site:

“Finally, one of the most ridiculous ’straw men’ you put up is that fruit juice can cure disease. My position on this would be that fruit juice and other fruit and plant foods very obviously play a key role in reducing the risk of most of the degenerative diseases.”

So there you go… that’s a doctor saying that MonaVie didn’t have any impact on your joint or back pain. Perhaps you’ll listen to one of MonaVie’s own.

@ Carter:

Although I personally think it is best to get one’s vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and fiber by eating and actually chewing real fruits and vegetables, or juicing fresh fruits and vegetables oneself, I do also drink bottled fruit juices, Welch’s Concord Grape juice being one of them.

So, as you requested, here is the info from the label of Welch’s Concord Grape Juice:

Serving size: 8 fluid ounces.
Calories: 160
Total Fat: 0
Sodium: 20mg
Potassium: 120mg
Total Carb: 40g
Sugars: 39g (natural fruit sugars only)
Protein: 1g

Vitamin C: 120%
Calcium: 4%
Iron: 4%
Magnesium: 8%
Zinc: 8%

Polyphenol Antioxidants: 250mg

Ingredients:
Grape juice from concentrate (filtered water, grape juice concentrate), Grape Juice, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). No artificial flavors, No preservatives, And No colors added.

This info is verbatim (word for word) off the label of a bottle of 100% Concord Grape Juice from Welch’s.

I paid $3.12 for this 64 ounce bottle.

You do the math, and cross compare labels. And then tell me, again, what makes MonaVie worth up to $45.00 a bottle.

Carter,

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