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	<description>Is MonaVie a Scam?</description>
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		<title>By: McLoven</title>
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		<dc:creator>McLoven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three years ago I met a friend through an unlikely source. The more I talked to her the more I cared about and liked her. She came to me one day excited that her husband and her had &quot;found something&quot; I just had to see. This was around April 2011. She told me about this juice. I listened, I was skeptical. I told her I was happy she was so excited. She didn&#039;t really answer many questions about the product. Her main focus was on all the new contacts and people she was meeting. She went on and on about testimonials and heart wrenching stories. It made me sick and after looking up and research this product I was horrified to see it was an MLM/ pyramid scheme. When I tried to warn her she was insulted. Here was my point. I don&#039;t argue that fruit is good for us I am not saying that this product doesn&#039;t taste good. Heck I am sure that if you stop drinking and smoking, eat right and get on an exercise program. You will feel better and lead a healthy life, you may even beat cancer. I don&#039;t think that MonaVie in or out of your diet will make a difference. She told me I was small minded and &quot;Not ready&quot; then she ended our friendship. I had noticed that since April she had been trying to worm the MonaVie topic into all our conversations. When it stopped working. she would get curt with me and end the conversation. I miss her. I truly believe MonaVie stole my friend. I have never been more against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three years ago I met a friend through an unlikely source. The more I talked to her the more I cared about and liked her. She came to me one day excited that her husband and her had &#8220;found something&#8221; I just had to see. This was around April 2011. She told me about this juice. I listened, I was skeptical. I told her I was happy she was so excited. She didn&#8217;t really answer many questions about the product. Her main focus was on all the new contacts and people she was meeting. She went on and on about testimonials and heart wrenching stories. It made me sick and after looking up and research this product I was horrified to see it was an MLM/ pyramid scheme. When I tried to warn her she was insulted. Here was my point. I don&#8217;t argue that fruit is good for us I am not saying that this product doesn&#8217;t taste good. Heck I am sure that if you stop drinking and smoking, eat right and get on an exercise program. You will feel better and lead a healthy life, you may even beat cancer. I don&#8217;t think that MonaVie in or out of your diet will make a difference. She told me I was small minded and &#8220;Not ready&#8221; then she ended our friendship. I had noticed that since April she had been trying to worm the MonaVie topic into all our conversations. When it stopped working. she would get curt with me and end the conversation. I miss her. I truly believe MonaVie stole my friend. I have never been more against it.</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientistMatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadScientistMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vulture prowling gyms was bad enough, but claiming MonaVie was a &lt;i&gt;wine tasting?&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;m surprised that tactic didn&#039;t backfire by having somebody scream about being lied to in the middle of the meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vulture prowling gyms was bad enough, but claiming MonaVie was a <i>wine tasting?</i> I&#8217;m surprised that tactic didn&#8217;t backfire by having somebody scream about being lied to in the middle of the meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched a video that a friend on my facebook posted. It was of this cocky 20-something guy who was just leaving the gym using his phones video camera to explain how he sells his monavie. He literally said that he aims for the &quot;fat chicks&quot; and then follows them out of the gym and tells them that they will lose x amount of weight by drinking a certain Monavie product and that she could make money by sharing it with others. She asked if it would cost her money and he said no, that because she would be supplementing breakfast and lunch with the juice, that it would make up for itself. Well, she took the bait. He then went on to say how he was going to go to a bunch of gyms and get 3 day passes just so he could continue to track down the &quot;big girls.&quot;  He was a PIG! 

   I remember a year or two back an old friend of ours rang my parents doorbell. She asked my Mom if she could park her truck in our driveway because there was no parking and there was a &quot;wine tasting&quot; up the street she wanted to attend. My Mom, loving wine decided to join her only to discover it was a Mona Vie meeting. She was pissed! What once was a friendship had turned into a lie, and any topic of conversation revolved around this lady trying to get us to come to meetings. I hope this company gets taken down. It&#039;s disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched a video that a friend on my facebook posted. It was of this cocky 20-something guy who was just leaving the gym using his phones video camera to explain how he sells his monavie. He literally said that he aims for the &#8220;fat chicks&#8221; and then follows them out of the gym and tells them that they will lose x amount of weight by drinking a certain Monavie product and that she could make money by sharing it with others. She asked if it would cost her money and he said no, that because she would be supplementing breakfast and lunch with the juice, that it would make up for itself. Well, she took the bait. He then went on to say how he was going to go to a bunch of gyms and get 3 day passes just so he could continue to track down the &#8220;big girls.&#8221;  He was a PIG! </p>
<p>   I remember a year or two back an old friend of ours rang my parents doorbell. She asked my Mom if she could park her truck in our driveway because there was no parking and there was a &#8220;wine tasting&#8221; up the street she wanted to attend. My Mom, loving wine decided to join her only to discover it was a Mona Vie meeting. She was pissed! What once was a friendship had turned into a lie, and any topic of conversation revolved around this lady trying to get us to come to meetings. I hope this company gets taken down. It&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are other people here (Aussie for instance) who are more familar than I am with some of the expert analysis of MLM statistics. But as far as Monavie&#039;s numbers go, have you looked at their IDS? Just Google &quot;Monavie + IDS&quot; and have a look. We can walk through it with you if you have any questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other people here (Aussie for instance) who are more familar than I am with some of the expert analysis of MLM statistics. But as far as Monavie&#8217;s numbers go, have you looked at their IDS? Just Google &#8220;Monavie + IDS&#8221; and have a look. We can walk through it with you if you have any questions.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>monaviescam and vogel:

lol.  just read the comment about smelling a colaboration.  I laughed out loud.  

Anyway, I have a question: I am fascinated with this whole thing and wonder if there is a good book, or reference, for understanding the math of mlm&#039;s in general.  And is all network marketing doomed for failure and a rip off?  I know you have great info here, and I know you have discussed how mathmatically it is a failure (monavie).  I just want to understand it myself.  :)
amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>monaviescam and vogel:</p>
<p>lol.  just read the comment about smelling a colaboration.  I laughed out loud.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I have a question: I am fascinated with this whole thing and wonder if there is a good book, or reference, for understanding the math of mlm&#8217;s in general.  And is all network marketing doomed for failure and a rip off?  I know you have great info here, and I know you have discussed how mathmatically it is a failure (monavie).  I just want to understand it myself.  :)<br />
amy</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt said: &quot;I have an interesting question, I&#039;ve been looking into all of these MLM juice companies, MonaVie, Xango, Exfuze, Noni, Zrii. They are all based in Utah. Why is that? Is there some kind of Mormon connection? I&#039;m just curious and it just seemed like an odd coincidence.&quot;

I don&#039;t know the precise origins of why Utah became a mecca for MLM scammers but I do know that a lot of it has to do with Utah politicians like Orrin Hatch and Jason Chaffetz receiving large campaign donations from MLMs (as I recall Orrin&#039;s top donor was Xango and Chaffetz was financed by NuSkin). 

The story is surely more complicated than that, but as a general rule, just follow the money trail and you&#039;ll find the answers to most questions.

The MLMs are also designed in such a way as to appeal directly to the LDS community. They are pitched as a means for moms to work while staying home with the kids, they leverage a back-to-nature nutritional message, and they often involve overseas charities (dubious ones) that operate like LDS missions (thus, even if the MLM is totally skeevy, it can all be justified under the guise of philanthropy and spreading &quot;the word&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt said: &#8220;I have an interesting question, I&#8217;ve been looking into all of these MLM juice companies, MonaVie, Xango, Exfuze, Noni, Zrii. They are all based in Utah. Why is that? Is there some kind of Mormon connection? I&#8217;m just curious and it just seemed like an odd coincidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the precise origins of why Utah became a mecca for MLM scammers but I do know that a lot of it has to do with Utah politicians like Orrin Hatch and Jason Chaffetz receiving large campaign donations from MLMs (as I recall Orrin&#8217;s top donor was Xango and Chaffetz was financed by NuSkin). </p>
<p>The story is surely more complicated than that, but as a general rule, just follow the money trail and you&#8217;ll find the answers to most questions.</p>
<p>The MLMs are also designed in such a way as to appeal directly to the LDS community. They are pitched as a means for moms to work while staying home with the kids, they leverage a back-to-nature nutritional message, and they often involve overseas charities (dubious ones) that operate like LDS missions (thus, even if the MLM is totally skeevy, it can all be justified under the guise of philanthropy and spreading &#8220;the word&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: mysterious</title>
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		<dc:creator>mysterious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant seem to watch the video but matt does make sence and i am wondering now. and i cant wait to see the rant from the followers and monabots.  hahahaha. should be interisting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant seem to watch the video but matt does make sence and i am wondering now. and i cant wait to see the rant from the followers and monabots.  hahahaha. should be interisting.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an interesting question, I&#039;ve been looking into all of these MLM juice companies, MonaVie, Xango, Exfuze, Noni, Zrii.  They are all based in Utah.  Why is that?  Is there some kind of Mormon connection? I&#039;m just curious and it just seemed like an odd coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an interesting question, I&#8217;ve been looking into all of these MLM juice companies, MonaVie, Xango, Exfuze, Noni, Zrii.  They are all based in Utah.  Why is that?  Is there some kind of Mormon connection? I&#8217;m just curious and it just seemed like an odd coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I mean &quot;see&quot;. I&#039;m not sure what that &quot;smell&quot; was. I hate mixed metaphors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I mean &#8220;see&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure what that &#8220;smell&#8221; was. I hate mixed metaphors.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I smell a colloboration on the horizon :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I smell a colloboration on the horizon :)</p>
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