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		<title>&#8220;I am not a MonaVie distributor, but&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a common claim in comments and MonaVie message boards.  This claim is pointless, here&#8217;s why:

No one can verify it &#8211; How is anyone supposed to be able to verify that this is the truth.  In fact&#8230;
&#8230; Distributors have incentive to claim they are not distributors &#8211; By opening with, &#8220;I am [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a common claim in comments and MonaVie message boards.  This claim is pointless, here&#8217;s why:</p>
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<li><b>No one can verify it</b> &#8211; How is anyone supposed to be able to verify that this is the truth.  In fact&#8230;</li>
<li><b>&#8230; Distributors have incentive to claim they are not distributors</b> &#8211; By opening with, &#8220;I am not a MonaVie distributor,&#8221; it tries to tell the reader, &#8220;I&#8217;m not biased, so you should believe the following claim that I&#8217;m going to make even though I can&#8217;t prove to you this is true.&#8221;</li>
<li>If you aren&#8217;t a Distributor and you love the product, why not become a distributor to buy it cheaper?  It doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</li>
<li><b>Even MonaVie Headquarters lies about this</b> &#8211; We have people at MonaVie HQ leaving comments saying that they&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-employee-calls-me-an-annoying-douche/">never tried the juice and calling people annoying douches.</a>.  Are we supposed to believe distributors when top of the organization tries to hide their identity and acts in this unprofessional manner?</li>
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<p>The most important part of this post is the 2nd and 3rd bullets.  If you are going to defend the product, you should be a distributor so that you can buy it cheaper.  If you are distributor and claim that you are not to try gain credibility, you simply fail.</p>
<p id="bte_opp"><small>Originally posted 2009-10-06 16:22:40. </small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Actual Letter from a MonaVie Distributor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A reader sent me a mail saying:
My wife got duped by one of these salesmen, they encouraged her to buy without my knowledge and consent a very large amount of this product and also to help sell it.
The following is the email that a MonaVie distributor sent his wife. I am withholding her name and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader sent me a mail saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>My wife got duped by one of these salesmen, they encouraged her to buy without my knowledge and consent a very large amount of this product and also to help sell it.</p></blockquote>
<p>The following is the email that a MonaVie distributor sent his wife. I am withholding her name and e-mail address and reprinting it exactly as it came to me.  However, if MonaVie is wise they will contact me before the Federal Trade Commission does, because I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;d have a field day with this pitch.</p>
<blockquote><p>Greetings!<br />
Being a committed Christian standing firm on Gods word.  Mormonism vs. the Christianity belief initially was never a concern with our place in Mona-vie.  We had to stand firm knowing that Gods word never fails and can be used as a blueprint for our life that we live.  John 10:10 tells us that: &#8220;The thief (devil; he&#8217;s a small font devil)) comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to full&#8221;. &#8211; NIV.</p>
<p>Mona-vie is truly a God Blessed business. So you better believe that if Mona-vie is changing people&#8217;s lives physically, financially and spiritually. The enemy will do whatever he can to stop the progress, it&#8217;s his labor. Everyone who puts their hands to this business and works it will be blessed.  Believing that the devil knows that his days are growing shorter, we need to understand that attacks are going to come against families spiritually, financially and physically.  We do sell ourselves.  We sell ourselves as Christian&#8217;s in life hoping to live by example so that our life will reflect well in the eyes of others to hopefully give the unbeliever a desire to have what we have which is Jesus Christ. We do not follow under the umbrella of Mormonism in Mona-vie, we follow under the umbrella of Christianity through R3Global.  To critique otherwise would also require us to examine where we do our every day shopping. </p>
<p>If we apt not to take advantage of living in a capitalist society and be &#8220;religious minded&#8221;, which by the way Jesus Christ despised the &#8220;religious minded&#8221; because it was them that hung Him on the cross, then we have to look at where we shop.  If we buy any product from Wal-Mart, Publix, Winn Dixie, Target or even the Dollar Store, then it would suggest that we need to look at the Christian beliefs of the founders of these mentioned companies as well.  There again we need to stand on Gods word and know that what the devil intended for evil, God will make good.  At the most recent R3Global conference in Orlando, there were over 200 people that gave their life to Christ.  If it was only one soul saved through Mona-vie, then Mona-vie is worth the effort. </p>
<p>When we first got involved in Mona-vie and being so analytically minded, my goal was to tear the product and company apart and see what the hype was all about. The science behind the product was truly astonishing. Knowing that the vitamins and minerals we get in vegetables can also be obtained by a vitamin pill.  There will never be a vitamin pill that will give us the necessary anti-oxidant and phyto-nutrients (phyto meaning plant derived) needed found inone serving of Mona-vie.  Two servings give us the nutrient equivalence of 13 fruits a day.  That is a fact.  Most people believe that just eating the common fruits which are apples, bananas and oranges is enough.  But after researching the fruits in Mona-vie which are not massed farmed, which contributes todepleting the nutrient value are not organic but wild.  Wild is better than organic nutritionally.  Our proprietary blend of fruits are from some of the most remote regions of the world that the toxic levels of pollutants has to be measured in parts per billion as compared to parts per million (ppm).  That&#8217;s wild!  Organic fruits and vegetables contain such a minimal difference in nutrient value as compared to wild, that most people waste their money purchasing organic as compared to regular store bought.  Today we are seeing more over weight people and health issues then ever before in our history.</p>
<p>Which now makes the sickness business a huge money maker.  We want to keep people out of the doctors office.  Mona-vie can not make medical claims because as soon as we do the government wants to get their hands on the product.  But with one of our new products, Pulse, we can state a medical claim. Don&#8217;t you know that the government can mess up a good thing?  So lets keep their hands off.  It&#8217;s not FDA approved, it&#8217;s God approved!  The body was made naturally to heal itself, we just have messed it up for so long it took medical science to try to fix the mess we made of it.  That&#8217;s another fact.  Keep the government out of Mona-vie unless they want to initiate a great Health Care Plan and get everyone on the product.  Praise God for doctors, but I knew of one doctor that actually stated he did not want his patients to get on Mona-vie because of the kick backs he was getting from the pharmaceutical companies.  That&#8217;s a fact and sad.</p>
<p>A product generally goes from the Manufacturer to the wholesaler, to the jobber and then on to the retailer.  Which ends up in our home.  When I first looked at Mona-vie with a very skeptical and analytical mind and then read the reports and then did the research myself, I could not find anything bad on the product, company and their business model to market the product.  What an amazing product!  Finally a product that in my eyes if our government wanted to develop a health care plan they need to put everyone on Mona-vie.  The sickness business, which by the way we are in the wellness business, is the only trillion dollar a year industry.  Mostly generated from the pharmaceutical business which is killing 105,000 people annually. And these are medications taken as prescribed by their doctors. Amazing fact. The propriety blend in Mona-vie is what makes it so loaded with nutrients it allows our bodies to get back in balance.  The acai berry has been proven to be the only food that can sustain the human body with life.  It has the protein profile of an egg and contains the necessary amino acids and nutrients needed for the body to survive.  No other food has ever displayed this life sustaining profile.</p>
<p>The product VIBE may have some health benefits, but it&#8217;s the proprietary blend that sets Mona-vie apart.  Our ORAC value of the acai berry that is part of this blend stands at 1,027 when freeze dried. Any other product that claims more is not factual with their harvesting practices, if you can find out how it is harvested.  And we need to remember that the body will only assimilate so much in one serving and the rest will end up in our septic system.  A solid pill form vitamin only has the absorption rate of 17-20% into our body.  That&#8217;s one reason after taking a multi-vitamin our urine is so yellow in color.  We own the patent process to harvesting our acai berry.  That is big.  Companies jumped on the band wagon with the acai berry after discovering the amazing super food that it is.  Put the acai berry freeze dried to keep its high pure ORAC value with 18 other wild exotic fruits and you have a nutritional product that no one can touch.  Mona-vie went under years of research before being marketed.  This gave the company an infrastructure scientifically, medically and in leadership that no one can touch.  We had a Medical Advisory Board in place and the scientific research to back our product before the company was ever introduced to the general public.  As a Christian one area of the company that intrigued us was knowing that before the company was rolled out, they had their eye&#8217;s on people.  Before they made their first dollar the M.O.R.E. Project was being introduced.  Mona-vie Operation Rescue.  Getting kids off of the streets, teaching trades, feeding people and giving people hope that the enemy wanted to keep them from.. Key Note:  People can mess up a good thing.  On the Oprah Winfrey show Dr. Nicholas Perricone stated that the number one &#8220;super food&#8221; is the acai berry.  Dr. Perricone has revealed the secrets of youthful, perfect skin and is known as the Dr. of the Inflammation Theory.  Ever wonder why the Brazilian&#8217;s have such beautiful skin?  They live near the equator where you would expect their skin to appear more aged.  It&#8217;s because their consumption of the acai berry almost in their every day diet in pure form.  Their disease rate is low and life long.  People have taken the fact that Dr. Nicholas Perricone stated that the acai berry is a &#8220;super food&#8221; on the Oprah Winfrey show, mixed her name with it as someone who endorsed the product, which has led to controversary.  We can not control what people say and if anyone follows Oprah to any degree knows that she has a cult like following..  You can YouTube Oprah and witness her stating that Jesus Christ can&#8217;t be the &#8220;only way to God&#8221;.  She has a following of over 2 million people with this New Age belief that is totally contrary to Gods unchanging word.  So whatever comes out of her mouth, unless it&#8217;s repentance, has to be taken with a discerning spirit.</p>
<p>Mona-vie is generating hope and health for people and a lot of money.  It has blessed my family financially and we have the tax statements to prove it.  You can not take a percentage of people making money based on the number of people that have been sponsored.  Only 1% as stated by a recent article mathematically incorrect.  The numbers would be skewed by the fact that the actual people working Mona-vie is not in any comparison to the actual number of working distributors.  Business takes work.  It&#8217;s a business and those that quit have lost their vision or have been poisoned by what they have found on the internet or ignorant words of another.  You can search on the internet the word Christianity or Santa Claus and guaranteed to find junk from somewhere.  Our lives from Mona-vie has been changed.  Since our first month in the business we have never paid for a case of the product because we saw the business model and quickly got to the point where our work paid for the juice.  We could not afford it in the beginning, but we had hope in Christ and Mona-vie, God did the rest.</p>
<p>The product works and it is going to attract &#8220;ambulance chaser&#8221; lawyers to just lay and wait for the moment that someone makes a claim that is not approved by Mona-vie.  Mona-vie has more going for them than against.  And one with God is a majority.  Attached is a little information that we hope you can find useful.  Don&#8217;t let dream stealers steal your vision.  Remember, people without vision will perish.  Obama stated that our country was no longer a Christian nation.  We know where that lie came from.  We were founder on Christian beliefs and principles and no one can ever take that away.</p>
<p>Mona-vie is a company worth talking about.<br />
Blessings,<br />
[Name Withheld]<br />
Mona-vie Gold Executive<br />
[Email Withheld]<br />
P.S. If you want to scientific facts, we can provide them.
</p></blockquote>
<p>It would take me days to go into all the ways this person is misguided.  I haven&#8217;t the time or energy, so I just leave it for you to look at as a shining example.</p>
<p>Ahh, screw it, I will say one thing.  For all the talk of being a committed Christian, I didn&#8217;t once see &#8220;Lie to your husband about distributing MonaVie&#8221; anywhere in the Bible.  Maybe it was one of the commandments or something that I missed.</p>
<p id="bte_opp"><small>Originally posted 2009-12-11 13:45:07. </small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Distributor: Dietitian Says MonaVie Is No Good, My Reputation is Ruined</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently alerted to this thread on a MonaVie Distributor message board:
Tina92921:
&#8220;I printed out the Monavie&#8217;s AIBMR report and showed it to the dietician that works in my building. She kept it quite a while and compared the Monavie results with the Orac table from the u.s.d.a. She said pretty much the same thing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently alerted to <a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showthread.php?t=763&#038;page=2">this thread</a> on a MonaVie Distributor message board:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3873&#038;postcount=30">Tina92921</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I printed out the Monavie&#8217;s AIBMR report and showed it to the dietician that works in my building. She kept it quite a while and compared the Monavie results with the Orac table from the u.s.d.a. She said pretty much the same thing that food tech did. According to what Dr. Schausses tests showed, Monavie only has 1.48 mg of phenolics, which are the antioxidants. She pointed out a lot of fruits and vegetables and even juices that actually have more antioxidants. She said if Monavies servings were 8 ounces a day instead of 4 ounces, it would be up there with most of the juices.<br />
Theres no way people are going to pay to drink 8 ounces a day!<br />
This SUCKS!!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3875&#038;postcount=32">Tina92921</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Apparently Dr. Schauss is the director of AIBMR life sciences in Puyallup, Wash. Monavie had him test the product. He&#8217;s supposed to be an expert on acai. The dietician said that from what shee reads from the Monavie website the freeze dried acai has an orac of 1027, but that doesn&#8217;t mean Monavie has the same. It depends on how much acai is actually put in the bottle. Dr. Schausses report listed the orac of Monavie at 22.81!? That sure got diluted didn&#8217;t it? If antioxidants are so damn low, why don&#8217;t we just stop advertising that it has alot. I don&#8217;t want to lie to people. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3875&#038;postcount=34">Tina92921</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Thanks for the info sheet. But I&#8217;m confused. It said that the acai berry has a orac of 1026. The video I saw with Dr. Schauss said the freeze dried acai powder had a orac of 1027. The pwder isn&#8217;t the berry. Even so, like the dietician told me, the orac score of the Monavie is all that counts and it was 22.81&#8243;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3875&#038;postcount=38">B of VA</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I hope you understand that just tonight the link to this blog was posted on an anti-monavie site, where people spend energy trying to hurt our access to the drink (no not PH, another one). You joined after it was posted and you made statements that sound critical. Dr. Schauss is the researcher and of course his body of work was used for Monavie&#8230;. I think focusing on Dr. Schauss (like the anti-Monaviers do) is a waste of time and creativity. I still am not sure what your point is anyway.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3905&#038;postcount=39">Tina92921</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I agree with B of VA. I really don&#8217;t give a rats behind about the history of Dr. Schauss and acai. I am interested in the orac score of Monavie. The 1027 orac of the freeze dried acai doesn&#8217;t mean anything if the Monavie score is only 22.8. We can&#8217;t just say, but look at all the other great things about Monavie because we promote the orac and the antioxidants so heavily. How can we claim that Monavie has the antioxidant equivalent of 13 fruits when all of the fruits that food tech listed on the ph site had so much more? And the dietician I talked to confirmed this. These are professionals. I talked to my husband and we are seriously thinking about getting out of this business before the roof comes crashing down.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.monavieforum.net/showpost.php?p=3905&#038;postcount=43">Tina92921</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The $39 isn&#8217;t the issue. I have friends and family who believed what I told them, which is what everyone led me to believe regarding antioxidants, fruit servings and the orac score. How much is my reputation worth?</p>
<p>I called Monavie and they just directed me to their websites. I couldn&#8217;t talk to anyone who knew anything. We have a food scientist, a dietician and now a personal trainer that have doubts about our product. This is from reading Dr. Schausses own report from AIBMR. Didn&#8217;t he think somebody with any brains would question it? I&#8217;ve got three kids I&#8217;ve got to think about. I can&#8217;t afford screwups like this!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this quite an amazing thread.  For once we have a distributor actually using logic.  Tina listens to the information presented to her and smartly decides to have professionals look into it.  The professionals correctly point out that <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-lies-about-the-orac-score-of-monavie/">MonaVie&#8217;s ORAC score isn&#8217;t impressive</a>.  Tina is seemingly the first distributor in MonaVie history to realize that the <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-is-less-than-2-freeze-dried-acai/">ORAC of frozen acai</a> is irrelevant and that it is the juice that actually matters.  She realizes that it&#8217;s dishonest to claim <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-13-fruits/>4oz of MonaVie has the antioxidant equivalent of 13 fruits</a> when it actually has <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/monavie-vs-an-apple/">less than half of one apple</a>.  </p>
<p>B of VA is upset that a fellow distributor is thinking critically about the juice and upset that others can see the thread.  B of VA then says &#8220;focusing on [MonaVie's own] Dr. Schauss&#8230; is a waste of time and creativity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally Tina realizes that she has been (unintentionally) dishonest with her family and friends and her reputation is taking a big hit.  She asks MonaVie for help and they give her the run around.</p>
<p id="bte_opp"><small>Originally posted 2010-05-12 18:36:27. </small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I ask How Much Acai is in MonaVie, I&#8217;ve heard a few MonaVie proponents say that it&#8217;s a secret formula.  They then suggest that like Coca-Cola, they shouldn&#8217;t have to give up their proprietary information.  At first glance, this appears to be a sound argument.  However, upon inspection it seems to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I ask <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/how-much-acai-is-in-monavie/">How Much Acai is in MonaVie</a>, I&#8217;ve heard a few MonaVie proponents say that it&#8217;s a secret formula.  They then suggest that like Coca-Cola, they shouldn&#8217;t have to give up their proprietary information.  At first glance, this appears to be a sound argument.  However, upon inspection it seems to fall apart.</p>
<p>Why does the comparison of MonaVie to Coca-Cola fall apart?  Here are the main reasons:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Coke is Thirst Quenching</b> &#8211; While MonaVie may bill itself as a beverage company, I don&#8217;t know anyone who drinks 1 ounce of a beverage unless it&#8217;s significantly alcoholic.  The standard can of a beverage in the US is 12 ounces and a bottle is 16 ounces.  A serving of Coke quenches thirst&#8230; a serving of MonaVie does not.  The two products have completely different purposes.</li>
<li><b>MonaVie&#8217;s a &#8220;Health&#8221; Product</b> &#8211; I put the &#8220;Health&#8221; in quotes there because <a href="http://www.juicescam.com/mens-journal-proves-monavie-lacks-nutrition/">MonaVie lacks nutrition</a>.  MonaVie&#8217;s claim is that it&#8217;s &#8220;star ingredient&#8221; acai is extremely healthy.  To verify that MonaVie&#8217;s product is serving its stated purpose we need to know how much of that &#8220;star ingredient&#8221; is in it.  We verify Coke&#8217;s thirst-quenching ability by the label of ounces on the can or bottle.  You wouldn&#8217;t pay $5 for an unknown quantity of Coca-Cola, would you?  That&#8217;s essentially what you do with MonaVie.</li>
<li><b>Coke is Much, Much, Cheaper than MonaVie</b> &#8211; I can buy 288 ounces of Coke (24 of the 12 ounce cans) for about $6.  The same amount of MonaVie Active retails for $518.  Consumers should demand more of a product that is priced at $518 than one that is priced at $6.  If MonaVie decides to price their product within 30% of Coca-Cola&#8217;s cost (instead of 86,333% more) there is less of an expectation for MonaVie to prove its value.</li>
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<p>In the end, it is pretty clear to see how bad the comparison of MonaVie and Coca-Cola is.  They have more difference than similarities.  The comparison to Coca-Cola actually supports why many people are skeptical of MonaVie.  Two things become quite obvious:  1) MonaVie is really expensive and 2) There is little or no information that shows MonaVie helps improve health.  Those two conclusions don&#8217;t bode well for MonaVie or it&#8217;s distributors.</p>
<p id="bte_opp"><small>Originally posted 2010-02-17 10:35:20. </small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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