I came across an article from 2004 by about a Utah Study on tax returns. There is a ton of useful information here, but one item in general made me stop reading the article and post it here. In particular it was point #2 on a list of 7 bullets from the findings:
“2. Most recruiting for Utah MLMs is done outside Utah, presumably because heavy market saturation in Utah has stiffened resistance to buying into the MLMs. So MLM promoters go to other states, and then from one foreign country to another to keep the scheme going. Or they sometimes start new product divisions to cycle the pyramid anew. MLMs like Nu Skin and Usana become, in effect, Ponzi schemes, by recruiting new investors in their schemes to pay off earlier investors.”
Remember that this was written in 2004 before MonaVie existed. The prediction is eerily on target when applied to MonaVie. They company did expand from one foreign country to another. That’s not typically a bad thing. Successful companies do expand to other countries. However, this does look like the kind of thing that MonaVie’s been doing since it has started declining in the US, and interest is fading overall. Since MonaVie has been afraid to put out an IDS since the middle of 2009, it draws some legit concern that they had trouble keeping it going.
Mr. Taylor then predicted the company would start a new product division. For MonaVie this would be its weight loss product RVL. The company’s failure to expand due to the pyramid scheme of the business plan has caused it to ask its distributors for more money through another product.
Is Jon M. Taylor a reincarnation of Nostradamus? Not likely. It’s just the predictable nature of companies like these.
Originally posted 2011-03-09 13:58:47. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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Many distributors of an MLM will ask about my credentials. It sounds like a logical question on the face of it. However, upon further examination it really isn’t. I thought I’d break down a few of the reasons why so we can finally put this debate tactic out of commission. I ask you to read all the way through the end before commenting though (the “good stuff” is there).
What are the Credentials of the MLM inventors
I’ve looked at MonaVie and Protandim in detail. In the case of MonaVie, it was developed by Ralph Carson, who had and extremely questionable interview on CBS Radio. In it he violates the FTC guidelines when he talks about the “testimonials” of MonaVie.
Protandim’s inventor, Paul Myhill, shows no medical background at all in his Linked In profile.
Some People Ask Why they should Trust an Anonymous Person like Me
I would first like to address why I am anonymous. I have written more than 1200 posts about personal finance over at Lazy Man and Money for 4.5 years now. It is quite common (as you tell from this article) for personal finance bloggers to blog anonymously as they mention details about their income and net worth that they might not want to attach to their name. It doesn’t make sense for me to leave my name with much of my financial information present in that blog, so that someone could use the information to steal my identity.
When I started blogging, I wasn’t introduced to the evil that exists in these MLM scams. While I am happy with the number of people who thank me for helping them understand that MonaVie is a scam, when a MonaVie distributor like Glenn Siesser threatens to kill me and another monavie distributor tries to blackmail me, it’s clear that remaining anonymous is the best course of action. From the comments that you read on this site, and on my original MonaVie post it is quite clear that many of the distributors are not logical, sensible people looking to engage in a productive debate. I’m trying to help consumers and I ask for nothing in return. I’d rather do my job without having to deal with a mentally imbalanced person overreacting about 35 cents worth juice (in the case of MonaVie) or 12 cents of commonly found supplements (in the case of Protandim). These companies don’t need that kind of lawsuit on their hands either as it would easily bankrupt them (and yes we know that MonaVie would be held responsible for the actions of their distributors, just like Napster was).
Why Would You Want Credentials Anyway?
I don’t make any medical claims, not do I claim to have any medical training. I only show you what unbiased information from reputable third parties and point out logical inferences that require no more than your typical 5th grade education to understand
The Purpose of Asking for Credentials in a Debate is Logical Fallacy
Asking for credentials is a classic Appeal to Accomplishment logical fallacy. In case you are too busy to click that link here’s what Wikipedia says:
“Appeal to accomplishment is a genetic fallacy wherein Person A challenges a thesis put forward by Person B which criticizes Person C (or A) a due to the fact that Person B has not accomplished similar feats or accomplished as many feats as Person C or Person A.
Rebutting this appeal has been popularly called ‘Ebert’s Law’, referring to Roger Ebert’s ability to critique films irrespective of his accomplishments as a filmmaker.”
The person asking for credentials is simply trying to debunk what I’ve proven with a logical fallacy. Since the debater can find no logical fault with the arguments I’ve made, the debater resorts to fallacies. (For those who don’t know what “fallacy” means dictionary.com’s defines it as “a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.”)
Finally, while we are on the topic of fallacies about credentials, I should note Alexander Schauss and Appeals to Authority
Originally posted 2011-02-01 17:45:45. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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I clicked on XOWii’s website today (12/23/2010) and I found something amazing. It was the following claim:
“One 2-ounce shot of XOWiiâ„¢ Ultimate is the nutrient equivalent of more food than you can comfortably eat in a day – 2 cups spinach, 3 oranges, 22 eggs, 15 avocados, 3 cups of pea, 50 bananas, 5 potatoes, 2 watermelons, 30 cups of tomatoes, 12.5 pounds of cheddar cheese and 80 mushrooms.
Would you rather consume this mountain of food or receive all those nutrients in one convenient 2-ounce shot?”
What an amazing claim, right?!?! However, it is clearly lie. To understand why, we need to do no more than look up what the definition of a nutrient is. Wikipedia gives us a list of types of nutrients. As you can see, carbohydrates, proteins, and fats are nutrients. So the statement that XOWii is making is that 2 ounces of XOWii contains all the carbs, protein, and fat of that huge list of food. So let’s look at the nutrition label of XOWii Ultimate:
XOWii Ultimate Nutrition Label
As you can see that XOWii Ultimate contains no fat or protein… core nutrients that are in avocados, eggs, and cheddar cheese. It makes MonaVie’s claim of it being the antioxidant equivalent of eating 13 fruits look tame. The MLM juice scams know no limits to their ability to commit large scale consumer fraud.
Just in case XOWii updates their website, to fix this illegal claim, I grabbed a screenshot to prove it:
XOWii Ultimate Lies (click for full image)
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[The following is a guest post by frequent commenter, Jim.]
Often distributors make various claims regarding the failure of distributors due to lack if effort. Most of us have read the reasoning by distributors that people failed because they didn’t utilize the help available from the team, because people think it’s get rich quick and quit when they don’t see instant results or you didn’t work the fool proof system. However, this is not the case. The mathematics of the compensation plan guarantees extreme losses regardless of individual effort.
To prove this I would like to focus on the main structure of the MonaVie opportunity, which is distributors are paid 10% of their lesser leg. This creates in a perfectly balance downline a maximum gross payout of 5% since distributors are only paid on one leg.
Let’s use an example assuming that you and your entire downline purchase $200 per month of juice. Let’s also assume that you have 10 individuals on each side, for a total downline of 20. This means your entire downline is spending $4,000 per month (20 x $200). You would be paid 10% on only one leg, (10% of $2,000) or $200 gross commissions. You broke even. Therefore for every 1 person in the “opportunity” who breaks even, 20 must be cash flow negative. What is true for one individual “tree” is true for all. There is no way for anybody to make money without 20 people losing no matter how much effort or what system you are plugged into, it is a simple case of mathematics.
I am not stating that it is impossible for anybody’s downline to make money, just that the only way to do so is by them bringing 20 additional distributors who will lose into the “opportunity”. It is similar to a poker game, the only way for one to win is for others to lose, 20 others in this particular case. Everybody at the table can’t win no matter how good they may be. While it is possible for any one person to make money, and theoretically lots, it is mathematically impossible for everyone to make money regardless of effort or the system they are “plugged into”.
I believe there are actually many people involved in MonaVie who believe they are helping friends and family have the chance to improve their financial situation. I don’t think everybody in MonaVie is trying to rip off their friends and family. I think many do not see the mathematics and have trusted the one one who introduced them to MonaVie. To those distributors: please see the harm you are doing, please realize the next time you sign up someone you care about that there is less than a 5% chance they will not lose money and the only way for that to happen is for them to bring an additional 20 losers into the scheme.
Thus is the nature of the binary compensation plan when used within an endless recruiting marketing scheme. I am personally unaware of any such scheme which has had even a 5% success rate and there are plenty of them out there (see this Skeptoid article). MonaVie’s own IDS shows less than 2% of distributors cash flow positive.
Now I am aware there any several ways to get paid in MonaVie but most of the lucrative plans are reserved for those at the top and have no effect on the statistical odds of being profitable. First Order Bonus and Star Maker could have a slight impact on this analysis but as these are not recurring income or the major income stream I did not include the impact. To be fair, I also did not include other expenses associated with the “opportunity” such as the cost of travel, juice for tastings, motivational books, CDs, seminars, branding, or marketing materials which I believe would make the potential for profits far worse.
I am very open to hear any potential corrections to the above analysis from distributors, or any others, who may understand the plan better than I do. My goal is to be as accurate as possible without exaggeration so distributors can realize the damage that is required in this “opportunity” and to be able to see the truth that was omitted when they were shown the plan
Originally posted 2010-12-13 08:55:22. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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On his blog, Orrin Woodward made the following statement:
“We are pleased to announce that Amway Corp., MonaVie, TEAM, Orrin Woodward, Chris Brady, Tim Marks, and other parties have reached agreement to resolve all pending legal and arbitration disputes between them. The terms of the agreement are confidential. I would request anyone who blogged on the various disputes to remove all materials so we can close this chapter of our lives and move forward together. Polly Harteis had an impactful quote at Jerry and Polly’s recent seminar, ‘Don’t criticize the old, just create the new.’ This is excellent advice for all of us in Networking.”
For those unfamiliar with the term whitewash allow me to quote a few bits from Wikipedia:
“To whitewash is to gloss over or cover up vices, crimes or scandals or to exonerate by means of a perfunctory investigation or through biased presentation of data. It is especially used in the context of corporations, governments or other organizations.
Modern Usage
Many dictatorships and authoritarian states, as well as democratic countries, have used the method of whitewash in order to glorify the results.
During the Soviet-era, Stalin adjusted photographs of himself with Lenin, in order to position himself closer as to give an impression of a closer relationship between the two.”
In Orrin’s own statement above, he doesn’t deny that there were “various disputes.” He would just like to remove all evidence of them, so that years from now it will be forgotten.
Woodward should heed Polly Harteis’ words himself and not focus what others wrote in the past and instead create the new. It’s been shown that the “new” for Orrin Woodward is lies.
I don’t mean to steal the thunder from Amthrax analysis of the same Orrin Woodward announcement. Readers should visit that article as well.
Originally posted 2010-11-28 03:05:15. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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The following is a guest post from a former MonaVie distributor and a former member of TEAM. As editor of the site, I’ve adjusted the formatting slightly for appearance on the site. He previously wrote the article: Ex-MonaVie & TEAM Distributor Explains His Metamorphosis
As a preface, I must say that I love this site. It’s opened my eyes, really, and I’ve met a lot of neat people. Also, I was able to practice my debate skills on several occasions. It’s fun!
That said, my primary purpose on this site is to add value. And so I tell my story about me telling my ex-sponsor that I quit TEAM…
So, I recently told my ex-sponsor that I left TEAM and MonaVie. I told him via email. Here’s what happened.
The Diamond of the TEAM sent me a text message later that day that exactly read “Call Right Back.” My thoughts: “Hell no. I demand a bit more respect if you want to talk to me.”
Then about a week later my sponsor emailed me back and said hes been really busy (he and his wife just had a baby girl), but that he would like to know my reasons for leaving, so he’d call me later in the weekend. A fair request.
No call. Whatever. It’s not my responsibility to let the world why I quit TEAM.
Now I know my group well. Even after I hadn’t talked with any of them for around two months, they didn’t get the hint that I had quit MonaVie and TEAM. In fact, they still invited me to meetings and such.
So I know that if I had talked with my Diamond, he’d have found some way to guilt-trip me or something.
But that’s just the funny thing. While I was with TEAM, I was looking for another way to… you know, actually succeed in MLM, because frankly, the TEAM system sucked. I learned nothing about building a business. What kind of business doesn’t advertise? There’s internal advertisements within distributors, but how do you let everyone else know what you’re doing?
TEAM affiliates, I must know: why is the “business support system” lacking in a FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT IN BUSINESS? Why does the TEAM system lack information on how to copywrite, or how to excel in PPC advertising, or how to use social networking as an advantage?? WHY? I learned all of that stuff in about a week, and it was FREE, and I can honestly say that I learned more in that week than I did from the expensive-as-hell TEAM system.
There’s something seriously wrong.
Anyway, the system sucks. Yeah. Moving on…
I was reading general MLM tips back then. And what did all of the “MLM gurus” say? Don’t chase.
Why am I suddenly being chased by my ex-team? Either TEAM is incompetent in their own business (i.e. Network marketing), or there must be an ulterior motive… or, maybe TEAM is just a cult…
Originally posted 2010-10-28 13:28:34. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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[Below is a guest post from a commenter who has identified himself as Mackwiz elsewhere on this site...]
Recently, I was approached by a co-worker to look into a “business opportunityâ€. I was only told that the company was in the business of selling products using the acai berry and not given any company name. I figured it could be something interesting and showed up to the presentation.
I walked in and the people seemed friendly for sure. It seemed like people engaging in an emerging business so I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary. I took a seat near the front as I was getting the pitch for the first time.
They had empty bottles on display and I thought (oh, they must be selling some really good anti-oxidant acai wine), but then I learned that it is actually just acai and supposedly 18 other fruits in a blended juice. The wine bottles seem to provide the effect of ‘juice in fancy bottle = really good’. I never got the actual price of the product while there, that was a surprise for later. Now that I think about it, one of the main images MonaVie is promoting is ‘very fancy looking’, which I am sure leads people into believing ‘must be good then’.
Now, the claims about the IDS being displayed prominently at the MonaVie presentation is true, well, at least it is true for my experience. The IDS was displayed for all to see and was up the entire time. I think this is because they spend some time trying to rationalize the IDS as a winning market model.
Ok, before I begin writing about the presentation and the speaker, I will give a little info about myself. I am by all accounts a rationalist and a healthy skeptic. I am all about using logic and reason to solve problems and generally prefer that over emotion, which is helpful in some instances but many times leads to bad logical fallacies. What I am saying is that I am the kind of person that MonaVie probably disdains, as lofty dreams for financial freedom and “pumping up the crowd†techniques are not going to work on me.
So the presenter comes up and starts his charismatic routine. Basically, he is talking about getting everyone “fired up”, while most people in the audience take the bait and “get fired up”. He then talks about how he had a crappy regular job and always wanted a better job, and how this MonAvie business model and product is the business opportunity of lifetime and only a fool wouldn’t get involved. He then starts using Kiyosaki quotes and the EBSI quadrant.
The basic sales pitch is “You are currently working for a conventional company that pays you peanuts and treats you like a bitch. Wouldn’t you like to make money on your own and not be subject to traditional company rules such as when to come into work, when you can have off, etc?” It sounds really good, and it makes you feel like you are in on some super-secret new business model that makes traditional business antiquated and oppressive.
Note that the entire time the speaker is being very humorous and is very motivated, which is psyching up the crowd. Personally, I got the feeling of being in a religious fanatic environment, with people who were too pumped up into the mental fantasy dream to take an honest look at what they were doing.
I’d say 80% of the presentation is MLM hype, which should tell you what is more important to the MonaVie execs when it comes to MLM or the juice. They used commonsense figures such as a chart that shows that once you hit 30 or so years old, your income level remains static, and they were suggesting that the MonaVie business model is a way to keep your income growing and growing throughout your life, which seems to me like a pipe-dream at best.
Of course, I am thinking “This is a F’ing pyramid scheme, I learned about this kind of crap when I was 15!” What they try to do during the presentation is present the IDS and the business model in such a way as “Oh, it is a pyramid but anyone can get to the top given hard work and persistence, unlike those other crappy pyramids!” The line used was, yeah we only have 7 people at the very top of the pyramid, but that is because they are hard workers who are at the top of their game, just like Tiger Woods and LeBron James at their respective games, and we can’t expect everyone to be at that level.
So that is how they explain away the IDS, basically by saying that the 99% in the bottom tiers are simply not trying hard enough, and if you get “fired up” and religiously get into the expensive motivational books they sell you will get to the higher levels. Looking at the IDS objectively, I could not figure out how anyone could look at that and not get highly discouraged and suspicious. I was thinking the entire time, “I bet when I Google this company later on I will get a few websites saying it is a scam”.
I noticed that, quite amusingly, the “TEAM” logo consists of two pyramids – was this intentional or accidental? The two pyramids are, as described in this Forbes article, the MLM distributor pyramid and the motivational tools pyramid.
Here comes the health pitch!
He spends a short amount of time going over how we are all unhealthy today and how this juice is the path to the cure. They then have an ORAC chart trying to dismiss all other acai competitors (by claiming only they use freeze-dried acai, and the spray juice acai ORAC sucks). I was yet to learn of all the problems with the claim they were making until I came to this site. He told everyone to stand up if they juice gave them noticeable benefits, and everyone stood up except for me (I had not had any…). The way the crowd was acting came across as if they were acting as fervent believers rather than sellers of a product. Why the hell would you need to “testify†like you are in a religion?
I was thinking if this juice is so great, why are they MLM selling it? Why have I never seen it in any stores, even when I was told that it was possible for a distributor to sell to retailers? Surely stores would be ready and willing to buy from a “fired up” distributor if this is really the unmatched health juice of the century.
The presentation ends with a lady showcasing a photo book of her going all over the world on MonaVie profits, basically the “proof” of what MonaVie can do for you if you get involved. She even jokes about how those lake night infomercials promise the same thing but “don’t worry – this is the real deal right here!”
I told my friend I would think on it, I didn’t want to be honest because I don’t want him to turn on me or tell me I am a “negative thinker”.
When I got home I did about a 10 second search and right at the beginning of the Wikipedia article on MonaVie there are numerous sources on how it is pretty much just another MLM scam. Then I found this site, and being the lover of rational arguments that I am, poured over the content and the comments. The trend is obvious, provide evidence and the MonaVie supporters come out almost like religious fanatics, saying things like “you’re just stupid and you have no life, MonaVie is the way” rather than providing actual evidence of their own. As a matter of fact, anywhere you look you can find the same trend, check out the comments on the Forbes article to see what I mean.
I gracefully bowed out later, saying that I would keep it in mind but it didn’t look like an option I wanted to take. He seemed disappointed, and I really wanted to tell him my real feelings, but I was afraid because I saw the way they psyche people and train them to disdain “negative thinking” i.e. skeptics, which I seriously believe MonaVie wants you to think are “infidels” – just look at the comments on this site.
All in all it was a very strange experience, and I am truly saddened that there are people out there willing to buy into delusion and cheap emotional tricks to get involved in schemes like this. I mean, the fact that the MonaVie CEO had a previous MLM company he was a top level executive on shut down for making phony miracle claims should be as red and loud an alarm as any.
Originally posted 2010-09-11 05:55:08. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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Many distributors come here with an argument of “try the juice” under the theory that you shouldn’t knock it until you try it. I know a couple dozen other people who have tried the juice. All felt nothing. Why? Because it is the juice of fruit. That means that if you start out with a bowl of fruit, and took out the good stuff like most of the fiber, vitamins, and minerals, you’d have juice – just like MonaVie. Ever look at a MonaVie nutritional label? It is essentially empty. The reason why the people I know feel nothing on MonaVie is because they understand that it can’t possibly be better than fruit with all the good stuff stripped out. Furthermore there are many frequent commenters here who have tried the juice and found nothing.
In addition to that, the “try MonaVie” argument fails when you consider there are more than 5000 products in any VitaminWorld or GNC. Is it possible to try all those? Do you have the millions of dollars to try them all over time? If you did try them all, and you felt “something” (as most distributors refer to whatever MonaVie is mysteriously supposed to do), how would you know which product caused it (or if it was caused by a slight change in diet or weather or something else)?
There are two reasons why some people claim that they feel “something” with MonaVie. One of them is called the placebo effect. It’s like when a mom kisses a four-year-olds boo-boo to make it better. The four-year-old says he feels better. MonaVie distributors want to believe that the juice does something, because it gives them hope that it is the solution to their (and their friends and families) money and health concerns. It’s a good fairy tale, but unfortunately the scientific evidence doesn’t back it up. Other MonaVie distributors are simply lying because they realize that people aren’t going to pay the $45 retail price of MonaVie on taste alone (since Men’s Journal Proved MonaVie Lacks Nutrition.
If the product really does do anything, then let’s see how it sells on a retail shelf. There’s too much bias from MonaVie distributors looking to make money pitching as some kind of magical elixir that makes people feel better (for some completely unknown reason). You might as well make a tin foil hat to feel better.
Originally posted 2010-09-04 15:21:56. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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For a long time, proponents of this website have made complaints that MonaVie contains very little fiber. They seem right to complain as most any dietitian will claim that fiber is one of the major benefits of eating fruit. With many MonaVie distributors erroneously stating that MonaVie is equal to 13 fruits, it seems like the fiber was a major issue.
“Was” is the keyword there.
MonaVie, in what seems like an admission of guilt, has decided to fortify the juice with Fibersol-2. Their claim: “With Fibersol-2, you can drink to your health with the confidence that the MonaVie juice you love is fortified with soluble fibers.”
Problem solved, right?
Well it doesn’t seem to be true. What is Fibersol-2? The company that makes Fibersol says, “Fibersol-2 digestion resistant maltodextrin is a spray-dried powder produced by a proprietary method of controlled enzymatic hydrolysis of cornstarch.” Cornstarch? A product used as a thickening agent doesn’t seem to be like drinking fruit.
More concerning though is the Maltodextrin. Looking at the Wikipedia page, you find the following information, “It is commonly used for the production of natural sodas and candy.” That’s not necessarily bad, but it hardly a good thing. Later on in the article there is, “While wheat-derived maltodextrin may cause concern for celiacs that it may contain gluten, maltodextrin is such a highly processed ingredient that the protein is removed, rendering it gluten free.” I highlighted the point that it’s highly-processed and hence has the protein removed.
I’m sure a lot of MonaVie distributors are thinking that this is a lot of opinion and surely the people who make Fibersol-2 have far more qualified food scientists than some anonymous guy on the Internet like myself. I’ve heard that before. So I’m going to thwart that defense from the get-go:
It seems that I’m not the only one concerned about these fiber additives, Jacob Gershman for The Slate says Don’t be fooled by polydextrose and other fiber additives. In that article we have the following quote:
“Companies are putting fiber into foods like cookies and ice cream and making people think these are healthy foods, when in fact they should be eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. It’s dressing up junk food as health food,” says Bonnie Liebman, director of nutrition at the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington, D.C. “We have no idea if polydextrose has the same benefits as bran. It’s deceptive.”
I’m not saying that MonaVie is a junk food, but that misses the point. Here is a very, very reputable person specifically saying that companies like MonaVie are adding this to deceive people despite the fact we don’t know the benefits of these additives.
The rest of the Slate article makes a very important point with MonaVie in mind:
Ironically, the rise of these faux-fibers is driven by the greater attention that consumers are paying to nutrition labels. The food companies, in other words, are teaching to the test. Whether it’s reducing fat and calories or adding fiber and vitamins, the industry is getting ever more clever at manipulating ingredients of snacks and other treats so that the stats mimic the nutritional data of fruits and vegetables.
Adding fiber and vitamins? Isn’t that exactly what MonaVie says it is doing here?
But what does Bonnie Liebman (again the very, very reputable Bonnie Liebman) have to say about maltodextrin? She uses polydextrose as the example in the quote. Well fortunately you can read her article here. To save you some time, I’m going to quote page 5 where she gives the bottom line about fiber additives:
- Isolated inulin, polydextrose, and maltodextrin are soluble fibers but they’re not gummy, so they probably don’t lower blood cholesterol or blood sugar.
- Isolated oat fiber and soy fiber are insoluble, so they may help keep you regular. Polydextrose may also help, but inulin and maltodextrin don’t seem to.
So Fibersol-2 / Maltodextrin may help the nutritional label look good, but it doesn’t look like it will blood cholesterol, blood sugar, or help keep you regular.
The question is whether MonaVie will address this issue? Or will they do what they’ve always done in the past and pretend it doesn’t exist?
Originally posted 2010-08-15 11:40:01. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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Frequent commenter Vogel contributes this important piece of information (slightly reworked for readability):
Fraud-Artist Spotlight: Jim Janssen (ID# 1986314)
Here’s a fraudulent quote from Monavie scammer du jour Jim Janssen, one-time maintenance man at JC Penny and Target in Kansas City, MO (which obviously makes him supremely qualified to make medical claims about snakeoil fruit juice):
You can see the claims here:: “Monavie acai berry drink is so packed with glucosamine that it has helped those with fibromyalgia, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer”
Here is his MonaVie Page and his
Linked In Page.
Glucosamine has never even been postulated to have beneficial effects for any of those conditions. Who would be foolish enough to believe such nonsense? Does Jim? Or is he purposely lying and breaking the law just to make a buck? Let’s get those FDA reports out!
In addition to sending those FDA reports out, please feel free to Tweet him or send him a Linked In message that he should stop breaking the law and scamming people in an effort to line his own pockets.
Originally posted 2010-08-15 10:17:23. Republished by Blog Post Promoter
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