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November 4th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Asea seems to be salt water. That is the only two ingredients in the bottle, sodium and chloride (along with water).
April 7th, 2011 at 11:08 am
ASEA is far from just salt water.
ASEA 100% duplicates the molecule called REDOX SIGNALING that is in every cell of our body.
Excluding our reproduction cells.
The balanced redox signaling molecule is responsible for repairing cells when they get damaged. They have a 2 hour window to do this.
If this can not be done the cells begin reproducing themselves as damaged cells….
which are diseases.
The scientists at ASEA have 100% duplicated and stabilized the balanced redox signaling molecule. Stabilized means a one year shelf life.
There are only two places that balanced redox signaling molecules can be found.
1. In every cell of your body
2. In a bottle of ASEA.
One last thing the balanced redox signaling molecule in each of your cells is salt water.
To all of you none believers ASEA is far from another snake oil.
ASEA is the most revolutionary invention for athletes, dancers and the medical world in the past 50 years.
April 7th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
A fair amount of research has been done in here before and it looks like, “salt water.”
If it’s the most revolutionary invention in the medical world in the last 50 years surely, my doctor will recommend it to me. We’ll see how that goes.
April 7th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Stephen, where the research and who are the scientists? No doubt there’d be independent studies?
Please provide us with links to the studies undertaken on the product so that we can verify the claims you have made.
A revolutionary salt water – and sold through an MLM??!! Oh, and the company headquarters based in Utah – otherwise known by some to be the pyramid scam capital of the world??!! Sounds amazing. Amazingly familiar BS.
April 8th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Thanks for the laugh Stephen. I’d love to see some evidence for any of those claims. Of course I don’t mean studies done by the mail-order-diploma “scientists” working for ASEA. Do you even have the slightest notion as to what that mumbo-jumbo you cut and pasted even means? Do you have any training in chemistry or a field involving the understanding of human physiology that would give you a sliver of qualification to comprehend your product’s claims?
Here’s a link to some info on more of these water related pseudosciences:
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/
Maybe you should read up on some of these Stephen. You may want to add to your useless product line, perhaps some Pi Water?
April 8th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Stephen said: “ASEA 100% duplicates the molecule called REDOX SIGNALING that is in every cell of our body.”
Big problem there Stephen. There is no such thing as a molecule called “redox signalling”. The term refers to a general process whereby cells relay chemical signals internally and communicate with one another. It involves a plethora of biochemical (i.e. reduction-oxidation) reactions and signalling molecules. There most certianly is NOT a single molecule called “redox signalling”.
Aside from that, ASEA is nothing more than salty water, and drinking salty water has no significant impact on redox signalling (the process that is).
Be aware that your demonstration of woeful ignorance regarding biochemistry does little to help the case for ASEA. In fact, it only helps to solidify its scam/snakeoil status.
April 8th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
In the words of Isaac Asimov:
“It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise; that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage.”
He wrote that 28 years ago, yet these MLM companies are thriving on its enduring truth.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Isn’t that the truth.
Check out this facebook comment:
“You can even spray ASEA on your skin or try it on your plantes and they will love you for this.Redox signaling molecules are found in every living form.That is why we call ASEA a breakthrough in health.”
How about this awesome Tweet I found:
“No other company in the world knows the science behind Redox Signaling like we do”
The reason why they went after this “redox signaling” angle is pretty obvious. It is a very complicated process, thus enabling these people to make up some BS, tack it on top, and claim it miracle science. Replace “Antioxidants” with “Redox Signaling” and you’ve just tweaked your snake oil for the new decade!
September 29th, 2011 at 5:52 am
I had someone approach me with Asea months ago and it is a carbon copy of the Monavie compensation plan. Total scam!
September 30th, 2011 at 3:56 am
That’s why I wrote the post. I was thinking of expanding upon it and not just based on the compensation aspect of it. There seems to be enough scammy stuff without even going there.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 am
@MonaVie Scam, although I analyze a model from every standpoint, the one that is the most clear indictor of a companies motive and intent is the compensation plan.
Since we can assume by a real definition that 90% plus of all mlms are merely internal consumption models, we can use that hypothesis to determine a maximum success ratio (minus mitigating factors), that can be applied to measure the strength/weakness of a plan.
I do not fall for the redefinition of distributors/customers, because in 16 years in the industry, I have rarely witnessed a customer outside of the compensation plan. It would be safe to say that less than 1% continue purchasing product after ceasing to pursue the business model. Because of that reality, we can also do computations based on the fact that people are joining MLM as a business venture. I know this is a highly debated topic, but I think the “pro” sides debate is highly overshadowed by the mathematics of their compensation plan. They love to say that only 5% work, therfore only 5% earn, but that is blatantly FALSE. If the mathematics of an internal consumption model only allow 5% to earn, then only 5% will earn, regardless of effort.
Therefore, with this in mind, a 10% weakside binary like Asea only has the power (from the networking standpoint) to bring 3.2% of the distributors into profit on a monthly basis. The mathematics of their particular compensation structure indicate that 97% plus will never be able to even cover the basic cost of their autoship.
Apply this formula across the board, and in most cases you will find a 10% ratio on the “generous” side, and I have seen, 2% on the weak side of things. Therefore from a networking standpoint the validity of most companies is harmed due simply to the compensation mathematics.